Commons:Deletion requests/File:Waalsprong verstedelijking 1999.jpg

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File:Waalsprong_verstedelijking_1999.jpg

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Derivative work, the main focus of the picture is two advertising sings. –Tryphon☂ 23:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Freedom of panorama in the Netherlands --Havang(nl) (talk) 05:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not permanent. Rocket000 (talk) 05:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But the picture shows the landscape before it was completely changed by building; and the reason. The dutch original description names the landscape: the landscape has been completely changed there and this is very illustrative for that change to come.<quote>nl|Eigen foto gemaakt in 1999 van de woningbouw in het Waalspronggebied ten noorden van Nijmegen </quote> <translation> Own picture made in 1999 of the building of houses in Waalsprong aerea north of Nijmegen</translation>. In the english translation of the descrition, the accent is changed to the sings. For me, it is clearly the "Waalsprong" before building: the landscape. The sings are illustrating what is going to happen there. It is a really free image, no copyright problems whatsoever. --Havang(nl) (talk) 06:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't basing my comment on the description but on the image itself. Rocket000 (talk) 07:29, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I often looked at this image, a very expressive image by the combination of the destroyed landscape and the agressive projectdevelopers billboards. This situation has been a short moment in time only, 1999, between the green landscape before and the new city quarter Waalsprong afterwards. No reason to delete such a highly valuable document, in the Netherlands considered to fall within FOP. --Havang(nl) (talk) 16:21, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to COM:FOP#The_Netherlands, FOP apply to permanent works only. Advertising signs and billboards are usually not considered permanent (I'm sure once those houses sell they're not going to keep it up there for it's artistic value that future generations to enjoy). So I'm not sure why you keep saying it's covered by FOP. How? It appears this photo has an emotional effect on you, so maybe you can't assess it fairly? What I mean is, you are talking about the subject of the photo (while using words like "very expressive", "destroyed", "agressive", "highly valuable"), when this is a discussion about the photo itself. The context, purpose, and value don't change the fact that it contains copyrighted content. Rocket000 (talk) 00:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am talking about the reason for the deletion request: "the main focus of the picture is two advertising sings" - this is not true, the main focus is Waalsprong, that is the title given by the author, that is the message expressed in this picture. The billboards were used only here in Waalsprong, they don't have a function elsewhere, this was their permanent place till their destruction, havinbg no other place. But they did not stay there indefinitly in time. --Havang(nl) (talk) 07:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. We have two advertising signs that are clearly not de minimis in a muddy field. They are not permanent, so FOP does not apply. Therefore the image is a DW of the two signs, so we cannot keep it.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 03:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Restored on dutch wikipedia.--Havang(nl) (talk) 13:06, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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