Talk:2011 Georgian protests
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Mischaracterisation of RT's reporting
[edit]Yalens has completely mischaracterised the nature of RT's reporting. If one bothered to watch the complete report, one would notice at the 42 second mark that it is in fact Nino Burdzhanadze who compares Misha's government with that of North Korea, particularly in direct relation to protestors being beaten and taken away where they are beaten more by Georgian police, and then taken to hospitals where they are not allowed to be visited by family and loved ones. Yalens' editing on this article is grossly POV and is mischaracterising the entire report by RT. This needs to be fixed, and I would suggest Yalens' themselves fixes it. --Russavia Let's dialogue 23:29, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification (sorry, I missed the quotations). That still IS the title, but I will change it nonetheless to make it clear that it was the quote.--Yalens (talk) 23:38, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Also, dont' remove my "original research", I am going to put in the the sources right now...--Yalens (talk) 23:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think I edited in POV way at all- I simply reproduced what I saw in the sources I used (starting with the Economist and NYTimes, and then going to Russia Today for the other perspective) with the intent of expanding a short page. Now that my mistake is fixed, can we remove your tag, Russavia? I've just added all my sources, and pretty much every sentence is cited so I dont' see how there can be an issue with that or "OR". Anyhow, I might be open to just deleting the analysis section, if it becomes a major point of contention.--Yalens (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, your edits are very POV. Why have you used article bylines (titles) as information for the article, instead of information which is actually contained in the articles and/or videos? Provocative headlines are used the world over by media, and often the headline will have nothing to do with what is contained in the article itself. Also, the reworking of information by yourself doesn't make sense, so I will go thru and make changes myself to the article to bring it up to NPOV standards. --Russavia Let's dialogue 17:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- I will leave the POV tag there, as there apparently is ... still... a dispute, though you are reading far too much into it. (edit: and I'm pret-ty sure that if the RT headline says witch hunt, RT is implying that it is a witch hunt, so I don't see what your problem is)--Yalens (talk) 17:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, your edits are very POV. Why have you used article bylines (titles) as information for the article, instead of information which is actually contained in the articles and/or videos? Provocative headlines are used the world over by media, and often the headline will have nothing to do with what is contained in the article itself. Also, the reworking of information by yourself doesn't make sense, so I will go thru and make changes myself to the article to bring it up to NPOV standards. --Russavia Let's dialogue 17:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think I edited in POV way at all- I simply reproduced what I saw in the sources I used (starting with the Economist and NYTimes, and then going to Russia Today for the other perspective) with the intent of expanding a short page. Now that my mistake is fixed, can we remove your tag, Russavia? I've just added all my sources, and pretty much every sentence is cited so I dont' see how there can be an issue with that or "OR". Anyhow, I might be open to just deleting the analysis section, if it becomes a major point of contention.--Yalens (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- Also, dont' remove my "original research", I am going to put in the the sources right now...--Yalens (talk) 23:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Third opinion from Yalens' talk page
[edit](with permission, this was copy-pasted)
“ | The most recent version looks fine to me. Some editors are just a bit quick on the trigger with WP:POV allegations... -Kudzu1 (talk) 04:45, 16 July 2011 (UTC) | ” |
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I removed the false citation from the Economist. There is no such statement in the Economist article. The user/contributor was engaged in misinformation.