Wiljahelmaz

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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 22:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation hatnotes

Hi Wiljahelmaz, I noticed that you've added {{other people}} hatnotes to several articles listed at John Day (disambiguation). Please note that it is not necessary to add these hatnotes if the article title is already unambiguous; it's highly unlikely that someone will arrive at John Day (cricketer, born 1812), for instance; if they wanted to find the article on John Day (Australian politician). The policy that describes this is WP:DABLINKUG. In light of this, would you mind reverting the addition of those hatnotes? Thanks – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 06:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I am new and am thus in no position to argue, but I would posit that the title is ambiguous, otherwise there would be no disambiguation page in the first place. I arrived at the John Day (printer) article because I had heard of John Day, Oregon, and was wondering if there was a connection; the lack of a hatnote seemed very unusual to me. After searching for the disambiguation page I saw that many others linked thereto, so it appeared to me that I was fixing the odd ones out. I will revert, but in light of the irregularity, should I remove the preexisting hatnotes for John Day (Nova Scotia legislator), John Day (Liberian judge), John Day (horseman), etc.? Wiljahelmaz (talk) 17:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't want to get too much into semantics, but there is a distinction to point out: The individual articles on the dab page are not ambiguous since they all contain some kind of disambiguator (like the paranthetical "(cricketer, born 1812)" or a unique middle name); the base name "John Day" is of course ambiguous, which is why it's a disambiguation page :) To be honest I don't think it's a big deal one way or the other, so feel free to retain hatnotes on any particular articles where you think they would be useful. I just wanted to point out that adding them en masse goes against the usual policy. Thanks – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

That makes sense. I had considered asking on the John Day (printer) talk page before making the edits because I wasn't certain, but the last post was from 2009, I believe, so it seemed unlikely anyone would answer. As previously stated I checked for precedent rather than for policy, but I guess I should have checked more thoroughly! Thanks for the assistance; if I'm going to edit I'd best do it correctly. Wiljahelmaz (talk) 19:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

You are welcome. None of the "rules" on Wikipedia are set in stone, and it's good to be bold and make improvements where they appear to be necessary like you were doing. Although being familiar with the policies and guidelines is important too of course :) Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any further questions. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)