Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aparajita Auddy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I don't see that GNG is met but an AFD closure isn't about the closer's opinion but the consensus of the discussion participants and on that, after 3 relistings, I see no consensus here. For those advocating Keep, I suggest you add sources supplying SIGCOV to the article or we will likely see it renominated for a second trip to AFD in the very near future. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aparajita Auddy

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Actor BLP doesn't seem to meet WP:NBIO - lacks in-depth coverage in non-routine sources. MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:12, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and India. ––FormalDude (talk) 05:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes NACTOR and GNG. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Somebodyidkfkdt. Which references do you think establish that WP:GNG is met? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:20, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This, this and this appear to establish notability. Even if GNG is not met, she passes NACTOR. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 03:29, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the links. Personally I think they are trivial gossip-type articles, but we shall see what other people think. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 23:05, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article meets WP:NACTOR #1. Multiple lead roles in several films and television programs over many years. The awards mentioned such as BFJA awards are notable and prestigious and help towards further establish notability. This page has enough source and depth of various sources and this page is presented in an organized manner so there is no question of deletion. Nilpriyo (talk) 2:17, 7 January 2023
- Note to the closer: Please not that the two keep votes directly above are from the same editor.The Banner talk 21:01, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Got it: comment altered by admin (me); two keeps merged into one. Drmies (talk) 21:04, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional note: please search with alternative spelling Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL and specially in Bengali Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL. Google Translate will help to read from the Bengali sources. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 03:07, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:41, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, but rescue should be possible Seeing that a majority of the article is unsourced, that info should be scrapped. The rest is only backed up by poor sources (trivial), not by in-depth quality sources. At the very least, the WP:BLP-issues must be solved. The Banner talk

Hello The Banner. Perhaps WP:DRAFTIFY would be useful here? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 21:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When there are proper sources for this article, they should be added pretty soon. But when the main authors do not commit to that, I think draftify would only act as de delaying tactic. (i.e. nothing happens --> draft --> nothing happens --> draft restored to article space on request --> AfD --> removal) The Banner talk 22:50, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. DaffodilOcean (talk) 04:17, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Linguist111 (talk) 16:48, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bold final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 20:02, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - notable Bengali actor. There are several WP:RS references available in Bengali language media. Twinkle1990 (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:NBIO and all other notability criteria for lack of "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. -- Otr500 (talk)

Comments: An indirect reference to WP:NEXIST that is often cited as a Hail Mary that sources may exist, somewhere in the universe. The last sentence of WP:NEXIST states, However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface. A 2012 article would suggest enough time has passed. In fact, there is a 2020 "needs additional citations for verification" tag.

A major issue, that seems to be overlooked, is that a BLP is more than career content that makes an article a resume or pseudo biography. Sometimes it may be considered silly but a birthday, place of birth, and other "personal" information are usually in a biography.

What we have is a lead with "Aparajita Auddy is an Indian actress who works primarily in Bengali film and television industry" and the article jumps straight to the "Filmography" section. There is so much unsourced content that the given sources doesn't support so the article is either original research or the career lists are sourced through IMDb that is not a reliable source. Wait! what about awards? Best Actress In A Supporting Role should advance notability. However, the source does not mention the subject at all. It is a "Press Release by Filmfare via Brandwire.in" and that company redirects to Mediawire, "Where PR Becomes News". The subject supposedly won "West Bengal Film Journalists' Association" Awards for Best Actress In A Leading Role for Cheeni (Winner). Find a reliable source for either of those awards. Hint: The first one listed has not happened yet. -- Otr500 (talk) 06:54, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Titodutta Are you able to search for sources yourself? Google translate can only get you so far. I'm inclined to think she's notable based on the volume of coverage in Bengali and English news media, but I'm struggling to find a single source that has substantive biographical information. I'm currently thinking she just about meets WP:NACTOR; she appears to have been given second or third billing in a few pieces we'd consider notable. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:39, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.