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There is no COM:FOP in Belarus.

russavia (talk) 02:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Agree with nom. Cool building, but we can't host it. Sarah (talk) 04:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
почему удаляется? --ВиталийГурин (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
В Беларуси отсутствует Свобода панорамы--Хомелка (talk) 20:06, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Per COM:FOP#Belarus: non-free architecture.

Eleassar (t/p) 09:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OOO! This is {{PD-BY-exempt}}!--Хомелка (talk) 11:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is the same case as Commons:Deletion requests/File:Stamps of the United Nations, 2010-Slovenia.jpg. --Eleassar (t/p) 12:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In Belarus, by law stamps are in the public domain.--Хомелка (talk) 16:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Where in the law do you read this? Also, there is only one image of a stamp. --Eleassar (t/p) 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Нацыянальная бiблiятэка Беларусi crop.jpg is also stamp, croped from envelope. From Template:PD-BY-exempt: according to the Law of the Belarus No. 370-XIII of May 16, 1996 on Copyright and Neighbouring Rights. Article 8. Works that are not Objects of Copyright Shall not be objects of copyright: state symbols and signs (flag, coat of arms, anthem, awards, banknotes and other signs (Postage stamps are state signs according to the Article 1 of the Law of the Republic of Belarus No. 258-З of December 15, 2003 on Mail Service)--Хомелка (talk) 07:13, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're reading too much here - this original synthesis goes against
  • Article 15:[1] "The personal non-ownership rights shall belong to the author irrespective of his/her ownership rights and are preserved with him/her even after assignment of exclusive ownership rights on use of the work."
  • Article 19: "Reproduction or communication for universal knowledge of works of architecture, fine art, photos, which are permanently located in a place opened for free visiting, except for cases when an image of the work is the main object of such reproduction or communication for universal knowledge or when it is used for commercial objectives."
Please mind that your interpretation about Belarusian postage stamps being PD is not supported by any reliable source; see e.g. this page, which states that the modern Belarusian postage stamps are copyrighted. It's customary that when in doubt, the copyright should be interpreted to the benefit of the author, and here we have just the same problem as we are having when the United States government takes a photo of an unfree statue: by claiming that this reproduction is not an object of copyright, we're infringing the architect's copyright. --Eleassar (t/p) 08:22, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As poststamps, This is official text of law:

Статья 7. Произведения, не являющиеся объектами авторского права

1. Не являются объектами авторского права:

...

  • государственные символы Республики Беларусь (Государственный флаг Республики Беларусь, Государственный герб Республики Беларусь, Государственный гимн Республики Беларусь), символы государственных наград Республики Беларусь (ордена и медали), государственные знаки (денежные знаки Республики Беларусь, почтовые марки и иные знаки), официальные геральдические символы (флаги, гербы административно-территориальных единиц Республики Беларусь, геральдические знаки, знамена, нагрудные знаки, эмблемы государственных органов и др.);

...

In english from me to you, dear Eleassar:

Article 7. Works that are not subject to copyright

1. Objects are not of copyright:

...

  • state symbols of the Republic of Belarus ( Belarus national flag , the national emblem of the Republic of Belarus, the National Anthem of the Republic of Belarus) , symbols of state awards of the Republic of Belarus (medals), state (banknotes of the Republic of Belarus, post stamps and other signs), the official heraldic symbols (flags, coats of arms of the administrative-territorial units of the Republic of Belarus, heraldic signs, banners, badges, emblems and other government agencies)

...

sorry for for poor English skills.--Хомелка (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Post stamps are in PD in Belarus, see Template:PD-BY-exempt (Shall not be objects of copyright... state symbols and signs... Postage stamps are state signs according to...). Artem Korzhimanov (talk) 15:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, interesting, because thr Law of the Republic of Belarus No. 258-З of December 15, 2003 on Mail Service defines how the stamp is looking and how is using in mail services, but it does not defines any copyrights. Thus the only low that regulates copyright (in fact, no any copyright!) was cited by Хомелка. - Frantishak (talk) 13:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the Law No. 258-З in definitions it is said "почтовая марка – государственный знак..." Artem Korzhimanov (talk) 19:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep* File:1997. Stamp of Belarus 0241.jpg, File:90-летие основания Национальной библиотеки Беларуси.jpg and File:Нацыянальная бiблiятэка Беларусi.jpg. The BY stamps are PD.
But similar to RU-law, BY stamps are PD until they remain stamps - the issuer (Beralus) and denomination ("A") must be preserveв - so, File:Нацыянальная бiблiятэка Беларусi crop.jpg is not PD. Alex Spade (talk) 17:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]



 Kept, Three files kept, one deleted, according to the arguments of Alex SpadeYmblanter (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no FOP in Belarus and the building is from 2006.

  — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 11:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Homoatrox: The ceiling, columns, walkway, and juxtaposition are architecture.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
File:Park of National Library of Belarus.jpg. The library is not the main object of the photo --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 11:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Чаховіч Уладзіслаў: The designs of the park and library are not DM.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DarwIn: I would consider that photo to be low quality and very blurry. Sorry I didn't mention that earlier.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 03:57, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeff G.: Despite the low quality, it still seems to be useful to illustrate the building, specially at night and illuminated, so I would choose  Keep for that one.-- Darwin Ahoy! 04:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DarwIn: If the image is "useful to illustrate the building", doesn't that prove that we should not keep it? -kyykaarme (talk) 09:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Kyykaarme: No, because it doesn't show any copyrightable elements. But it still shows a building roughly with that chape, illuminated with those colors at night. I certainly would use it in the article about the library.-- Darwin Ahoy! 14:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DarwIn: I suppose the filename doesn't count?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 04:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeff G.: We can always change the filename. It seems impossible to photograph that street in that direction without partially catching that building in the end.-- Darwin Ahoy! 05:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DarwIn: The designs of the park and library are not DM.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 04:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeff G.: In that case, I remove the suggestion to keep.-- Darwin Ahoy! 05:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 17:07, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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As per [2], the modern architectural marvel was authored by architects Mihail Vinogradov and Viktor Kramarenko. Its inception was in 2006. Unfortunately, Belarusian freedom of panorama prohibits commercial uses of images of recent artistic works in public spaces by living or recently-deceased architects, sculptors, muralists etc. These images do not show the work as "not the main subject". Either needs COM:VRTS permission for use of commercial Creative Commons licenses from Mihail Vinogradov and Viktor Kramarenko or have the law changed to remove non-commercial restriction.

JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 18:13, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]