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Malaysian royalty photos

Hi Aafi, I noticed you just deleted File:Official Portrait of Tunku Azizah as Raja Permaisuri Agong.jpg. Would the same situation apply for File:Tunku Azizah Aminah Maimunah Iskandariah, 2019 official portrait.jpg and File:Sultan Abdullah, 2019 official portrait.jpg? They are tagged as PD but I don't see them meeting the criteria. I vaguely recall being involved with Malaysian royalty image deletions before too, but not well enough to remember any details. Thanks, CMD (talk) 14:09, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@CMD, the cases are different. The deleted file was attributed to unknown author and sourced to Jabatan Penerangan Malaysia, and tagged as {{Cc-zero}} and thus required permissions release. The two images you ask about are a Government work, as indicated on the file pages. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 14:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

That seems to be the same source, Jabatan Penerangan Malaysia is the Information Department. CMD (talk) 14:38, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

In that case, I believe, {{PD-Malaysia}} says, "Works by the government, governmental organisations and international organisations are subject to copyright for 50 years after publication: sections 11 and 23." The files being in PD is subject to question. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 14:53, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

That's my thought, point 23. I do wonder if the monarchies are considered part of the government, and if copyright of their official portraits may lie with them, but either way, not PD. Sensible to open a DR? CMD (talk) 15:15, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Just found Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tun Hussein Onn potrait (cropped).jpg, may wait for that to close. CMD (talk) 15:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, a DR is a way to go. Thanks for the link. Closed it and a few related DRs. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 15:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)