Talk:Lowell Weicker
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editlisten, if we're going to put the liberal comments in quotes, we have to with the conservative ones too.
This article should be merged into the other one, which is better-written and more through and complete (IMO!). Rlquall 03:41, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
merged. hopefully a reasonable job...
Presidential Run?
editThis article discusses Weicker being courted for a possible presidential run. He was born in France, people! Anyone involved enough in politics to run a presidential campaign (even the Reform party) should know that he (like Schwarzenegger and Granholm) could not run. I want to see sources for this. It looks unlikely. ColinKennedy 16:43, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
While he was born in Paris, his parents were American, making him eligible to run for president. His father was an executive with an American company with offices in France. John McCain wasn't born in the United States either (I believe he was born in Panama), but he is still able to be President.
- John McCain was born in Panama when it was part of the United States that is why he can run. Lowell on the other hand was not born on US controled soil so no he cannot run for President. Gang14 (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Check the sources: The Constitution: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. 8 USC 1401: Persons born in the United States, and persons born on foreign soil to two U.S. parents, are born American citizens and are classified as citizens at birth. Wikipedia Natural born citizen if you want to know more. Thus, yes, Weicker can have run for president Midnight12 (talk) 03:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Not so fast: While the Constitution does provide that a president must be a natural born citizen, the first Congress of the United States in 1790 passed legislation stating: "The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States." However, the Naturalization Act of 1795 repealed the Act of 1790 and removed the language explicitly stating that the children of US citizens are natural-born citizens. As such, it is inconclusive whether Weicker was eligible for the office of President.
On the main point: Weicker was certainly a Presidential candidate in 1979. Anyone who was an adult then would know that. More specifically: he explicitly announced his candidacy on March 12, 1979 in Hartford.
On the side point: The Constitution says "natural born citizen." No court has ever ruled what that means, and whether it includes (i) people born in the United States, (ii) people who are children of American citizens or (iii) both. The balance of informed opinion tips toward the last. Since the adoption of the 14th Amendment (about 80 years after the Constitutional provision on presidential eligibility), those born in the United States have a Constitutional claim to citizenship; others are citizens as a matter of ordinary laws. Just to note a couple egregious errors above: Panama was not, and has never been "part of the United States." Moreover, the notion of "US controlled soil" is neither a Constitutional nor a statutory one. People who were born in Bavaria or Tokyo in 1947 are not, by virture of that, US citizens. Various statutes have conferred US citizenship on people born in various places, to various parents: including a statute that applied to the Panama Canal Zone, which was adopted in ... 1937 (McCain was born in 1936). A number of other potential presidential candidates were not born in the United States: Barry Goldwater (an actual nominee) was born in the Arizona Territory, George Romney (who was certain considered a candidate in 1968) was born in Mexico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.163.203 (talk) 07:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Lamont endorsement
editI note that even if Lamont is running 46% behind Lieberman, that isn't appropriate information to put into an article about Wiecker, unless (as was not done, and I doubt can be done) there is going to be a section on Weicker's proclivity to endorse candidates likely to lose, or to endorse opponents to colleagues, or something else where this (otherwise irrelevant) factoid would actually be relevant. John Broughton 13:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
No picture?
editOne of the very few political pages I've seen with no headshot... -- RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 03:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Other Activities: Compuware Board of directors
editEdited:
He is also on the board of directors for Compuware, unsourced derogatory material about a living person removed
I was originally goint to add a Needs Citation tag, but because this is a living person potentially controversial information is supposed to be stricken immediately. (As I understand it). AThomas203 23:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- You're right, but per WP:BLP it's not supposed to be on talk pages either. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
He is currently on the Board of Directors for Compuware, how this fact is controversial I will never know. http://resources.bnet.com/topic/compuware+corp..html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.77.90 (talk) 19:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
POV
editI dont think there is anything wrong with this articles point of view does anyone else have a problem. Gang14 (talk) 19:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
The problem is that you were deleting all facts about LW that were even just a bit negative Sudsak (talk) 02:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- The source you cited says a great many things about him, yet you selected one particularly negative one. Please see WP:UNDUE Ref: Peter Overby (Winter, 1993). "No good deed goes unpunished - political courage - ex-Gov. Jim Florio; Gov Lowell Weicker Jr.; Gov Lawton Chiles - Cover Story". Common Cause Magazine.
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Screed
editThis article has been reduced to a covert right wing screed on Senator Weicker. Will somebody fr/ Connecticut please add some positive things about him. Ronald Raygun's character precis seems an inadequate baseline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapered (talk • contribs) 04:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Inaccuracy About Weicker's Grandfather and ER Squibb & Sons
editAccording to the Bristol-Meyer Squibb website, ER Squibb was not Weicker's grandfather - Theodore Weicker was. And Theodore did not found the firm - at most he played a role in its incorporation when he became a co-owner in 1905. http://www.bms.com/ourcompany/Pages/history.aspx Paul C. Lasewicz (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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