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Q: Why does the article call Greene "far-right"?
Consensus is that multiple, independent, reliable sources describe Greene as "far-right". These include the following:
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  • Fram, Alan; Slodysko, Brian; Freking, Kevin (February 4, 2021). "Divided House officially removes Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from committees, punishing far-right provocateur for violent, racist rhetoric". Chicago Tribune. Associated Press. Archived from the original on June 21, 2021. Retrieved June 27, 2021.
  • Diaz, Daniella; Grayer, Annie; Nobles, Ryan; LeBlanc, Paul (April 17, 2021). "Marjorie Taylor Greene launching 'America First' caucus pushing for 'Anglo-Saxon political tradition'". CNN. Archived from the original on June 16, 2021. Conservative Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is launching a new "America First" caucus, her office confirmed Friday, bringing together a group of far-right lawmakers known for their controversial rhetoric
  • Woodward, Alex (January 29, 2021). "Cori Bush explains moving her office away from Marjorie Taylor Greene as GOP congresswoman slams 'Democrat mob'". The Independent. Retrieved February 1, 2021. Black congresswoman condemns far-right lawmaker's 'renewed, repeated antagonisation of the movement for Black lives'
  • Bump, Philip (March 19, 2021). "The emerging far-right 'no' caucus in the House". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on March 20, 2021. Retrieved March 20, 2021.
  • Sarlin, Benjy (January 14, 2021). "Some Democrats in Congress are worried their colleagues might kill them". NBC News. Archived from the original on May 27, 2021. Retrieved February 1, 2021. House members openly accuse far-right representatives of threatening their health and safety after the Capitol riot.
  • Karni, Annie; Baker, Mike (February 1, 2021). "An emboldened extremist wing is flexing its power in a leaderless G.O.P.". The New York Times. Archived from the original on March 15, 2021. Retrieved February 1, 2021. With the departure of former President Donald J. Trump, the G.O.P. has become a leaderless party, with past standard-bearers changing their voter registrations, luminaries like Senator Rob Portman of Ohio retiring, and far-right extremists like Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia building a brand on a web of dangerous conspiracy theories.
  • Elliott, Josh K. (January 29, 2021). "'Jewish space laser' among wild hoaxes backed by GOP's Marjorie Taylor Greene". Global News. Archived from the original on June 21, 2021. Retrieved February 1, 2021. Greene was an active far-right conspiracy theorist before her election, and she has continued to push many of those beliefs, including the QAnon hoax.
  • Gambino, Lauren (February 6, 2021). "Who is the Republican extremist Marjorie Taylor Greene?". The Guardian. Archived from the original on July 22, 2021. Retrieved August 1, 2021. Greene represents an ascending far-right movement within the Republican ranks…
Q: Why does the article call Greene a "conspiracy theorist"?
Consensus is that multiple, independent, reliable sources describe Greene as an advocate or promoter of a "conspiracy theory" or a "conspiracy theorist". See RFC closed with consensus to keep[1] These include the following:
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  • Garvey, Declan (August 14, 2020). "Marjorie Greene Is Already Causing Problems for the GOP". The Dispatch. Retrieved June 27, 2022. 'Greene could have a devastating impact on the Republican party at-large,' a top House GOP aide texted The Dispatch. 'It's one thing to have fringe members who represent very ideological districts. It's quite another to have a member who is an avowed conspiracy theorist and traffics in hateful rhetoric that offends the vast majority of Americans.'
  • Proctor, Stephen (June 28, 2021). "Republican congressman says Marjorie Taylor Greene 'doesn't do anything' but 'try to be famous'". CNN Newsroom With Pamela Brown. Yahoo! Entertainment. Retrieved June 27, 2022. [GOP Representative Adam] Kinzinger said[,] 'She really doesn't do anything but travel the country and attack people, but, you know — come up with crazy conspiracy theories, and try to be famous.'
  • Wise, Alana (February 1, 2021). "McConnell Slams Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Conspiracies As 'Loony Lies'". NPR. Retrieved June 27, 2022. 'Loony lies and conspiracy theories are cancer for the Republican Party and our country. Somebody who's suggested that perhaps no airplane hit the Pentagon on 9/11, that horrifying school shootings were pre-staged, and that the Clintons crashed JFK Jr.'s airplane is not living in reality,' [GOP Minority Leader Mitch] McConnell said in a short statement Monday night that doesn't directly cite [Greene] by name.
Q: Why does the article call Greene's ideas "extremist"?
See a closed discussion where there was a consensus to call her ideas "extremist."[2]
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Early life and education 4,572 4,572
Early career 12,022 12,022
U.S. House of Representatives 37 76,884
Elections 19 43,760
2020 102 40,568
Primary election 15,465 15,465
Runoff election 5,698 5,698
General election 14,054 14,054
Endorsements 5,249 5,249
2022 3,173 3,173
Tenure 27,677 27,677
Committee assignments 3,046 3,046
Caucus memberships 2,364 2,364
Political positions 980 180,466
Abortion 4,089 4,089
COVID-19 28,799 28,799
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Opioid epidemic in the United States 683 683
Gun rights 5,355 5,355
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LGBT rights 11,520 11,520
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Evolution 1,191 1,191
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Rhetoric involving killing of opponents 4,289 4,289
Advocacy based on conspiracy theories 6,332 35,877
Pizzagate and QAnon 9,041 9,041
False flag claims 5,464 5,464
Shootings 7,728 7,728
Georgia Guidestones bombing 842 842
White genocide conspiracy theory 2,010 2,010
Camp Fire conspiracy theory 4,460 4,460
Catholic Church leadership 2,457 2,457
Responses 18 36,159
Within Congress 9,446 15,990
Removal from House Committee assignments 5,977 5,977
House Speaker removal efforts 567 567
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Student loan forgiveness 599 599
Twitter 8,848 8,848
2022 primary ballot challenges 2,136 2,136
In popular culture 6,990 6,990
Personal life 6,136 6,136
See also 104 104
Explanatory notes 38 38
References 30 30
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Total 327,488 327,488

Good article?

I am surprised that this article was given "good article" status. First of all, it is not especially well-written and could definitely use more proofreading. Second of all, it has a supermarket tabloid-esque quality to it. In fairness, the supermarket tabloid-esque quality may be inevitable given who the article is about. MonMothma (talk) 02:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

This article achieved good article status two-and-a-half years ago and has certainly diminished in quality since then. Curbon7 (talk) 06:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
We need rather more concrete proposals to work with, what are your specific objections? Slatersteven (talk) 11:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
I was surprised, too. In any case - a little example, if anyone cares - comma error (needed after Georgia):
Cumming, Georgia in 1992 SuzQ! (talk) 14:51, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm also surprised to see that this article is a "Good Article". The Personal life section needs work, specifically the Crossfit paragraph. Some1 (talk) 02:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

House Speaker removal efforts

This is referred to in the intro. Does it need to be? Green's motion was defeated by a hefty majority. Is the fact that a small number of Democrats abstained significant? Quite a large number of Democrats and Republicans must have voted against the motion. Should these figures be included as well or instead? Should her motives for bringing this motion be included, whatever they are. Johnson appears from his article to be pretty right wing. Are they not on the same side? Was he trying to be impartial and she objected. (to explain: to my British mind the Speaker ought to be considered neutral.. The Speaker of the House of Commons sheds his or her party identity and during general elections none of the main parties stand against him. Speaker Bercow was criticised by some Conservatives on occasion for being too fair to the opposition. Is that what happened here?) Spinney Hill (talk) 10:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

It may not be needed in the lede, but is this the first time she has publicly supported removing a speaker? Slatersteven (talk) 10:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Auto-archiving period: 14 days

Much too short. This talk page is not that active. Please extend to 180 days. Drsruli (talk) 22:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Updated to 90 days for now. SerChevalerie (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Inspiration for character in The Boys

Hi, proposed change in Marjorie Taylor Greene § In popular culture:

In June 2024, Season 4 of the series The Boys featured a new conservative superhero / podcast host named Firecracker. Showrunner Eric Kripke stated that Firecracker was directly inspired by Marjorie Taylor Greene.[1]

References

  1. ^ Tassi, Paul (2024-06-19). "'The Boys' Season 4 Opens Up 46% Split Between Critic And Audience Scores". Forbes. Retrieved 2024-06-25.

SerChevalerie (talk) 11:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Trivia, silly Trivia. Slatersteven (talk) 11:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I went through WP:HTRIVIA, yes. However, WP:IPCV states:
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"can" does not mean "must". Slatersteven (talk) 11:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
or "should". not to mention both HTRIVIA and IPCV are essays. Let's set aside the opinions and look at this through the lens of WP:10YT -- is this character portrayal going to matter at all in the distant future (or the near future for that matter)? This reeks of WP:PROMO and MJTs BLP is not a platform for advertising or popular culture fictional references.
The Boys (TV series) has a Politics section where this could easily be referenced, and would be better suited there IMO. Kcmastrpc (talk) 11:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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