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edit...Trump is confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. Can anyone add this somewhere in the article?? Georgia guy (talk) 23:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- If you can supply some reliably sourced/verifiable articles that cover this then it would be considered for inclusion. Otherwise it falls under Original research Eruditess (talk) 22:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
TikTok ban bill
editA statement Pelosi made while debating the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act went viral on social media is it worth mentioning? Talked about here:[1][2][3] John Oliver talking about also had a bit of coverage:[4][5] . Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Impelli, Matthew (2024-03-13). "Nancy Pelosi goes viral with "tic-tac-toe" speech". Newsweek. Retrieved 2024-03-15.
- ^ Feiner, Lauren (2024-03-13). "Nancy Pelosi is playing TikTok-toe". The Verge. Retrieved 2024-03-29.
- ^ Ortiz, Andi (2024-03-14). "The View Hosts Crack Up at Nancy Pelosi's TikTok Pun Attempt". The Wrap. Retrieved 2024-03-29.
- ^ Nordyke, Kimberly (2024-03-18). "John Oliver Mocks Nancy Pelosi's "Tic-Tac-Toe" Reference Following House Passage of TikTok Bill". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 2024-03-29.
- ^ Russell, Shania (March 18, 2024). "John Oliver mocks Nancy Pelosi's viral tic-tac-toe pun". Entertainment Weekly. Retrieved 2024-03-29.
- sounds a bit meh to me soibangla (talk) 07:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- WP:NOTNEWS applies. I saw the bit on John Oliver, I imagine we'll all forget about it before the next viral bit. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
The recent overhaul of the Confederates statues section
edit@Thenightaway: In my recent overhaul of (essentially) an old contribution of yours from 2017, I completely removed the following sentence:
- "In Lee's place, she had a statue of Rosa Parks erected."
where the reference was Steinhauer, Jennifer (2015-06-25). "Search for Confederate Symbols Finds Them Aplenty in Washington". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2017-08-17.. My reason was that I think you based your claim on an interpretation of the following paragraph from that source:
- "The matter has been bubbling under the surface for years, largely among Democrats. When she was the speaker of the House, Representative Nancy Pelosi of California quietly had the statue of Robert E. Lee moved from National Statuary Hall to a more remote area in the Capitol known as the crypt. In his stead, more or less, is now a statue of Rosa Parks, which Ms. Pelosi pushed to secure."
- (Copyright The New York Times; thus, cannot copied in whole or a part to Wikipedia articles; quoted here just for disussion of its factual content.
- "The matter has been bubbling under the surface for years, largely among Democrats. When she was the speaker of the House, Representative Nancy Pelosi of California quietly had the statue of Robert E. Lee moved from National Statuary Hall to a more remote area in the Capitol known as the crypt. In his stead, more or less, is now a statue of Rosa Parks, which Ms. Pelosi pushed to secure."
Thenightaway, I think that your interpretation was not unreasonable, but that it was not the only possible one, and it was factually wrong. As can be seen in the articles Rosa Parks and Statue of Rosa Parks (U.S. Capitol), and their sources, the statue was ordered by the Congress in 2005 (an order symbolicly signed by then President G. W. Bush on the fiftieth anniversary of the event); it took some years to produce; and it finally was ceremonially unveiled in 2013 by then President Obama. Thus, as you can see, Pelosi well may have "pushed to secure" the Parks statue, both in 2005 (as minority leader for the House Democrats), before her first speakership, and by having the project advancing during that speakership; but she was not the Speaker when the original decision was made, and nor when the time came to place it in the Statue Hall. I also doubt that the formulation "In his stead, more or less" would have been employed if the Parks statue were placed exactly at the former position of the Lee one.
(I try to inform about factual reversals of edits of serious editors, even when I suppose that they agree or just have no opinion about some rather old edits:-). If you incidently disagree with my edit, please restore the Rosa Parks sentence, but preferrably together with a more precise reference. Regards, JoergenB (talk) 18:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Liberalism sources
edit@M0rphD0g00: Here you entered the claim that Pelosi still widely is considered as a liberal, right before a source for another statement. However, that source does not support your claim. In fact, it rather seems to claim the opposite:
- "For example, Pelosi, a co-founder of the CPC once on the liberal vanguard, is now far from one of the Democratic caucus’ most left-leaning members."
M0rphD0g00, I move your contribution to a position after that source. I suspect that you didn't read the source for a check of your statement, but rather have it from other sources. I leave the statement as it is, but I'll put in a template {{Citation needed}} after it. After you've found some reliable sources which support your claim, please add them after your statement, and remove the Citation needed template! Regards, JoergenB (talk) 19:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Citation needed is not necessary. It is a known fact and there are plenty of items on the page without citations. M0rphD0g00 (talk) 03:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- This does not fall under WP:BLUE. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it is, and no it is not. That is an opinion, not a fact (and is thus wp:or. Slatersteven (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- What does liberalism have to do with left-wing politics? Per the main article that is the umbrella term for anti-capitalist ideologies, including the "labour movement, socialism, anarchism, communism, Marxism and syndicalism". Dimadick (talk) 11:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dimadick: I just quoted the "reliable source" (in this case a Huffpost article). You'll have to ask the Huffpost editor (Daniel Marans) about why he connects "left-wing" and "liberal". Regards, JoergenB (talk) 14:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- First off, one source is not "widely" it does not say she is regarded as a liberal it in fact seems to say the opposite (see wp:v. Slatersteven (talk) 14:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Dimadick: I just quoted the "reliable source" (in this case a Huffpost article). You'll have to ask the Huffpost editor (Daniel Marans) about why he connects "left-wing" and "liberal". Regards, JoergenB (talk) 14:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)