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editI request adding a link to "street gang" when it's mentioned at top of the page. I think it's beneficial to the reader to be able to be suggested to know more about street gangs there. JaumeAlcazo (talk) 10:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Proud boys
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
They are not fascist. They also have diverse members. You can edit and make suggestions on wikipedia pages except this one because wikipedia knows their wrong 😑 2603:7080:82F0:9350:CD31:80F7:417C:A10F (talk) 07:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Encyclopedia Britannica: Proud Boys, (neo)fascist white nationalist organization established in the United States in 2016. DN (talk) 08:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- It would be helpful if you could provide an expert source, such as a textbook on the U,S. far right. TFD (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.