Talk:Selective fire
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three modes
editHi just wondering, has anyone ever made a selective-fire gun that can fire semi-automatic, burst fire and full automatic? I have heard that there are some, but they are unreliable, expensive, and rare.
I've only ever heard of ones with two modes.
- The french FA-MAS assault rifle can switch between semi-automatic and burst fire, which can in turn be switched to either 3-rounds burst or full automatic.breversa 09:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Several weapons, including the MP5, can had with more than two firing modes. They are not unreliable, expensive or rare.
- Other three-option weapons include the Japanese Type 89 and a couple of Heckler & Koch rifle include the G 11 and maybe the G 36. Does anybody know what the first selective-fire weapon was? Or the first with a limited-burst option? I kind of think the latter was the Beretta 93R, but I don't know. Boris B 08:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
"Automatically- is this a real word...
- Same for the SIG 550, as can be seen on Image:Caroline-pontet-p1000527.jpg : Security (S), One round (1), Three-round burst (3) and Full automatic (hidden under the metal security which is removed if needed). Rama 14:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Selecetive Fire Shotguns
editThe definition of Selective fire: "A selective fire firearm can be fired in both semi-automatic and any number of automatic modes by means of a selector." does not agree with "selective fire shotguns": These weapons allow the user to switch between semi-automatic and pump action firing. Either the defintion needs to be changed to include selective fire shotguns or the part about selective fire shotguns needs to be removed. 65.197.192.130 17:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Selective fire is not a mode of fire and is not regulated
editThe main article fails to take into account that a firearm with a selective fire mechanism does not necessitate that one of the modes will or must be a full or burst auto mode. You can have full auto without selective fire, you can have selective fire without a full or burst auto modes. Selective fire is a mechanism to select modes of fire and should not be conflated with the modes themselves and their method of operation or the category those modes of fire place the firearm in, such as a machine gun. A machine gun is any firearm that can fire more than one round per pull of the trigger. I have a rifle that is selective fire and not a machine gun, it's modes are: Safe, Semi-auto, and Rapid. The rapid mode is a mode that force resets the trigger so you can repeatedly pull the trigger faster, it is not a mode that creates any length of continuous fire, but is distinctly different in it's operation from standard semi-auto.
I removed the "legal" section of this article because it conflated full auto machine guns and selective fire, they are not one in the same. The statement that selective fire is regulated by the NFA is patently false, It does not regulate the method of choosing modes of fire. The NFA regulates machine guns, short barreled rifles, AOWs such as sawed off shot guns and destructive devices. The FOPA 1986 does not restrict the new manufacture of selective fire firearms for civilian use, it restricts machine guns from such as well as the new registration of any machine gun for civilian use, new or old that was not already registered prior to the cut off date in the law. Selective fire has no special legal issues— Preceding [[Today's citizen (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2015 (UTC)Wikipedia:Signatures]] comment added by Rick Obsidious (talk • contribs) 10:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Rick Obsidious: I agree and thank you for removing that section. I added it when I ported over content from other articles back in December, but I see now how its not appropriate. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:03, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Removed Bump Fire
editGuess I should've posted on Talk first but anyone can revert me if I'm in error. There was a link under 'See Also' for Bump Fire but it linked to the semi-automatic firearm article and Ctrl+F does not find 'bump' so I removed the link since it seems irrelevant in that context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.184.63.59 (talk) 04:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Rename from "Selective fire" to "Select fire"
editFor the sake of better grammar, I recommend that we changed the adjective "selective" to the verb "select". It just doesn't sound right to call it "selective fire".--RAF910 (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
- For the sake of us all, I recommend that you read the article naming policy. Your opinion matters, but the current usage in reliable secondary sources matters more. Andrewa (talk) 20:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Bren gun
editArticle does not currently [1] mention the Bren gun and should... all Brens are selective-fire, with a three-position safety catch giving single or fully-automatic mode, and this was a both a significant weapon and an early example of this in World War II, and a long-running standard weapon only fairly recently retired in some forces. Andrewa (talk) 20:30, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The article name is misleading.
editSelective fire can be understood as a fire that is focused on only one target or on a small number of them.
How about "switchable fire" or "various modes of fire"?
Vikom talk 16:33, 24 April 2019 (UTC)