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Rfc: inclusion of -elect official into List of president/vice president/prime minister

Should a "list of leaders"-type article like list of president of xxx, list of vice president of yyy, list of prime ministers of zzz, or similar officials also includes those who are designated as "-elect"? Ckfasdf (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No: I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but I could see this leading to confusion in situations where someone is elected to office but never actually ends up taking the position (due to dying before the inauguration, some type of revolution or significant political change, etc). And more generally, a "president-elect" is under no definition the same as a "president", so I don't think it makes sense to include it in a list of "presidents". Rovenrat (talk) 12:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No. Until they're sworn in or vested or what-have-you, they're not actually holding the office. We could make a rule about not adding till their election results are certified, but that's needlessly complex compared to just list them when they're seated. TheSavageNorwegian 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No. A xxx-elect doesn't hold official power until officially sowrn in. Adding them to lists will only make it confusing to readers. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 01:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Bad RfC; perhaps: There is no indication of discussion prior to opening this RfC per WP:RFCBEFORE. Without opposing views/counterexamples to consider, this is not a helpful process. Whether/when/how to include an officer-elect can be decided on individual lists, and may depend on how the jurisdiction certifies an election. List of presidents of the United States has included a separate "President-elect" subsection in 2021, 2017, and 2009. I see no reason that should cause confusion, provided the entry is separate from the main list (in particular, after it). And including nothing about an elected officer will often lead to people thinking that info is missing, adding it, and then being reverted — wasting time and causing frustration. SilverLocust 💬 19:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

This RfC originated from a discussion within edit summaries on List of presidents of Indonesia. However, the opposing viewpoint pointed to the List of presidents of the Republic of China article, where the inclusion of a president-elect was mentioned in the list of presidents. I believe it would be more effective to raise this question here to garner greater attention and, hopefully, more input than discussing it solely on individual articles. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

No as per above comments. In the Indonesian case, the current president-elect will not take office until October 20. I think a mention in the body of the article is OK, but it's unnecessary clutter in the list. Davidelit (Talk) 06:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at List of awards and nominations received by Mad Men

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Mad Men#Tables suggestion, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested input at Talk:List of common misconceptions over lede

Looking for uninvolved editors opinions on the discussion at List of common misconceptions on whether the lede meets sourcing requirements. Conversation seems to have stalled. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 23:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Is this a list article?

Need some input on something that came up on WP:UNI. Recently, Dartmouth College fraternities and sororities was demoted from GA status, in part because the reviewing editor felt like this was actually a list article. I agree with its demotion for various reasons but question if this should be considered a list article. I know FLs have long intros, but this seems to exceed the norm. In addition, the "list" is totally in narrative form. So, is this a list article OR a regular article with a list or list-like component? Thanks. Rublamb (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:List of LGBT-related acronyms#Requested move 10 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of LGBT-related acronyms#Requested move 10 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --MikutoH ^talk! 23:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Draft article of List of Democratic Socialists of America Conventions

I recently drafted the article Draft:List of conventions of the Democratic Socialists of America, and as it is my first article, would appreciate feedback from people who are interested. Redpandarich (talk) 15:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

List of common misconceptions

Please see Talk:List of common misconceptions#Split proposal. Thank you. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Scientology officials has an RfC

Scientology officials has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

This is a list-related RfC on "nesting of subheadings/levels for a list with some subsections".   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion on changing inclusion criteria for List of autistic fictional characters

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of autistic fictional characters#revisiting notability about revising inclusion criteria for the List of autistic fictional characters in relation to notability and a proposed formal inclusion criteria for the page. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Historyday01 (talk) 13:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Proposed merger

A merger of List of animated series with LGBT characters: 2000–2004 and List of animated series with LGBT characters: 2005–2009 has been proposed. If you are interested in participating in this discussion, please add your comments at Talk:List of animated series with LGBT characters: 2000–2004#Merge proposal. Thanks. Historyday01 (talk) 02:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)