Talk:2017 North Korean nuclear test
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Magnitude 6.3 is much larger than 100 kTon.[edit]
According to Moment_magnitude_scale#Nuclear_explosions a 1 kiloton blast corresponds to a seismic magnitude 4.0. Since each magnitude is a factor of 31 in energy, the reported mag of 6.3 would correspond to a 2800 kTon blast, which is larger than any reports. Can anyone find a source resolving this discrepancy? Spiel496 (talk) 21:59, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
- In the next couple of days official scientific measurements will be all over the news media. We can wait. HammerFilmFan (talk) 05:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- True, but at least put a caveat in the meantime.Lihaas (talk) 12:38, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Collective news coverage and references[edit]
Anyone is welcome to add more. 2001:2003:54FA:2751:0:0:0:1 (talk) 02:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- Russia Today is a government-run/funded organ for the Putin regime, and is not considered to be a Reliable Source. HammerFilmFan (talk) 05:56, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- That is utter BS because BBC "is a government-run/funded organ for the [May] regime, and is not considered to be a Reliable Source." (a la Iraq WMD's) (likewise NYT, including Venecuela coup 15 years ago)
- France 24 "is a government-run/funded organ for the [Macron] regime, and is not considered to be a Reliable Source. "
- NPR "is a government-run/funded organ for the [Trump] regime, and is not considered to be a Reliable Source. "
- That's right, you cannot have you cake and eat it too.Lihaas (talk) 12:44, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, but Wikipedia has widely held that 'Russia Today' is not a RS - it is frequently used as a propaganda organ for the Putin regime, rather than an objective news source. The other sources you cite are considered a reliable source - by the way, if you think NPR is on Trump's side, you need to look deeper at that station. :-) HammerFilmFan (talk) 21:57, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- That is utter BS because BBC "is a government-run/funded organ for the [May] regime, and is not considered to be a Reliable Source." (a la Iraq WMD's) (likewise NYT, including Venecuela coup 15 years ago)
Move[edit]
Phoenix God moved this article from 2017 North Korean nuclear test to September 2017 North Korean nuclear test, citing consistency with the title of September 2016 North Korean nuclear test. While this is true, and consistency is a naming convention criteria, it's actually the September 2016 North Korean nuclear test article that is inconsistent with all the other articles at Category:North Korean nuclear weapons testing. The September 2016 North Korean nuclear test and January 2016 North Korean nuclear test articles have the month in the title as a natural qualifier to disambiguate between the two tests that took place that same year. All other nuclear test articles lack the month because it's an unnecessary qualifier.
I propose this article to be moved back to 2017 North Korean nuclear test to be consistent with all the other nuclear test articles that don't need a qualifier to disambiguate between multiple tests in the same year. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
After reading the article of previous nuclear test, I think that the "September 2017 North Korean nuclear test" title is more consistent than the 2017 North Korean nuclear test title. But, now after reading Finnusertop's point of view, I don't have any issue if someone wants to change back the article's name. Phoenix God (talk) 18:59, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Finnusertop that adding the month was unnecessary so far. Dobrichev (talk) 20:44, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
FYI, January 2016 North Korean nuclear test was originally 2016 North Korean nuclear test, but after another test in the same year, the month was added for distinction. --Cyberdoomslayer (talk) 01:11, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I agree that the article name does not need to include the month. For consistency with the other North Korea nuclear test articles, it would be best to omit the month unless and until North Korea carries out a second nuclear test in 2017. NPguy (talk) 03:39, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
Yep...I moved–Kiwipat (talk) 05:46, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
First?[edit]
North Korea did not state it was its first test of a hydrogen bomb, and the source does not say it did. It also claimed the January 2016 North Korean nuclear test to be a H-bomb test.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:39, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
GeoHack co-ords error[edit]
The 2017 North Korean nuclear test is pinned ~ 41°N 129°E while the 2017 North Korea earthquake pin is ~ 15°N 93°W, off the coast of southern Mexico. Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Apostrophes (talk) 19:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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