Talk:2024 Kwa River disaster

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Requested move 15 June 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that 2024 Kasai River disaster be renamed and moved to 2024 Kwa River disaster.

result:
Moved per consensus seen below. For the question of the "Kwah" spelling, sources appear to use "Kwa" or "Kwa(h)", so the "Kwah" spelling will become a redirect, 2024 Kwah River disaster, as an alternative usage. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 07:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Kasai River disaster → 2024 Kwa River disaster – Sources say that this happened on the Kwa River. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:59, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- as Blaylockjam10 said, the sources support Kwa River. However, the Kwa appears to be another name for the lower portion of the larger Kasai River (and redirects to the Kasai River wiki), so both names could be justifiable.~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 00:27, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- all but one source uses River Kwa. Celjski Grad (talk) 10:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: "Why Kwa River"" and not "Kwah River"? With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 00:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relist to allow discussion of alternative "Kwah River" BilledMammal (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Including count of deceased children

Hello, Celjski Grad. I see that you have removed the count of deceased children. We usually write such info in the infobox and preamble. Why do you believe that in this case it should be omitted? Thanks. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 16:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is a summary of the article, which already contains details such as the number of children in the running text below. The ‘reported deaths’ infobox parameter, like the lead, is a summary for a more detailed breakdown in the article. Celjski Grad (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is not what I see. After your removal the lead doesn't have it any more. Before your edit it was:

"On 12 June 2024, the ship HB la Saintet sank in the Kwa River, a tributary of the Congo River in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, killing at least 86 people. including 21 child"

and after your change it's:

"On 12 June 2024, the ship HB la Saintet sank in the Kwa River, a tributary of the Congo River in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, killing at least 86 people"

Also you have removed it from the infobox. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 17:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That’s what I said above. The details are in the article body below, in the Events section. Celjski Grad (talk) 17:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw that. But my original point was that such details is common to include in lead as well as in the infobox as well. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 17:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]