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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- ... that mystery and detective novelist Agatha Christie's books have sold over two billion copies? Source:"Her books have sold over a billion copies in the English language and a billion in translation." The Home of Agatha Christie (official website)
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Improved to Good Article status by RLO1729 (talk) and Tbytheriver (talk). Nominated by RLO1729 (talk) at 14:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC).
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Foreign victims
[edit]"Christie portrayed some "foreign" characters as victims, or potential victims" Are there specific examples mentioned in the source? The most prominent foreign victim that I remember is Mr Shaitana, the "flamboyant" Syrian collector from Cards on the Table. He was mistaken for an Italian, and faced anti-Italian sentiment in the novel. See the following summary:
- "..we’ve interviewed Mr. Shaitana’s solicitor. We know the terms of his will. Nothing of interest there. He had relatives in Syria, it seems."
- "There are, however, a few racial moments: Shaitana was not only called a dago, but also “the sort of Dago who needed kicking badly. He used to make the toe of my boot fairly itch”, said the intemperate and clearly racist Despard. "Dimadick (talk) 13:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Christie's quote about Ibn-e-Safi may possibly be significant enough to Ibn-e-Safi to mention at that article, but I don't see it having any significance to the article about Christie. She paid a compliment to another writer; how is that important enough to mention in an encyclopedia article? Pinging @Sayyedfahad: who has been edit-warring to add that content. Schazjmd (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, agreed (I have just reverted the addition again). Not a statement about Christie but about Ibn-e-Safi. Also, sourcing may be a problem - one of the references given was to Teach Yourself German on Amazon. Tacyarg (talk) 19:03, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- In this article about Agatha Christie, there are many points that are not so important but included in the article, information about Agatha Christie's visit to Pakistan and her opinion about Ibn-e-Safi are also there with references. That page is also available from the weekly newspaper of 1960, if you want to see it, I will send it through email (reference of Dr Aqeel Abbas Jafri writer of book Pakistan Chronicle). It is hoped that you will add information about Agatha Christie's visit to Pakistan with suitable words and also include her expression about Ibn-e-Safi. Thanks. Sayyedfahad (talk) 04:22, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- What matters is not what Agatha Christie expressed about Ibn-e-Safi, Ibn-e-Safi has his own fan following. Ibn-e-Safi also holds the record of selling 100,000 novels in a week. It is important that the information reaches the researchers, because it is a fact that Agatha Christie has come to Pakistan and expressed her opinion about Ibne Safi and when the researchers do the research, they can find information from other sources as well as Wikipedia. This information is not incorrect. Thanks. Sayyedfahad (talk) 04:38, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Christie has been described as a "globetrotter", meaning she visited many countries. She spent time in France as a child, and traveled around the world (South Africa, Australia, and North America) in the 1920s. She accompanied her archaeologist husband on multiple digs in Syria. She spent time in Persia (now Iran), Iraq, New Zealand, and the Canary Islands. She based two of her novels in Egypt, which she visited several times. She wrote Murder on the Orient Express while staying in Turkey.The point is that when people write about Agatha Christie, they mention the significant places she visited or stayed (meaning they were significant to her work or her life), not an exhaustive list of every location that she went to. The Wikipedia article summarizes what people have written about Christie. That Pakistan was one of the places she visited isn't considered significant by her biographers, so it isn't considered significant to Wikipedia. Schazjmd (talk) 13:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Yes, Aga Christie visited different countries. Some are also mentioned in article. Isn't it a contradiction that some countries are mentioned and others are not mentioned? They have been mentioned in one place in the article. An important thing is that Agatha Christie visited Pakistan and mentioned her fellow writer Ibn-e-Safi. Well, if it is not mentioned, then it does not matter. Which countries Agatha Christie visited can also be mentioned. Regards. Sayyedfahad (talk) 17:23, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Christie has been described as a "globetrotter", meaning she visited many countries. She spent time in France as a child, and traveled around the world (South Africa, Australia, and North America) in the 1920s. She accompanied her archaeologist husband on multiple digs in Syria. She spent time in Persia (now Iran), Iraq, New Zealand, and the Canary Islands. She based two of her novels in Egypt, which she visited several times. She wrote Murder on the Orient Express while staying in Turkey.The point is that when people write about Agatha Christie, they mention the significant places she visited or stayed (meaning they were significant to her work or her life), not an exhaustive list of every location that she went to. The Wikipedia article summarizes what people have written about Christie. That Pakistan was one of the places she visited isn't considered significant by her biographers, so it isn't considered significant to Wikipedia. Schazjmd (talk) 13:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Small detail - copyright owned by daughter
[edit]I am currently reading "Murder with Mirrors" (1952, the 1987 Penguin edition) and happened to notice that the copyright is indicated as held by "Rosalind Margaret Clarissa Hicks and William Edmund Cork". There's no mention of that anywhere in this or in the article on Hicks, although it does mention that Hicks was given the copyright on a different work. Can anyone explain/confirm/discuss? 100.0.242.34 (talk) 17:33, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
- I found three older newspaper articles that discuss the copyright status of Christie's work.[1][2][3] (That third one is Hicks's obituary.) Unless reliable sources go into details on who owns copyright on each work, the article can't do so. Schazjmd (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
A well-written and researched article. Kudos! Lee D. Rothstein 17:52, 4 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LDR (talk • contribs)
Her characters - Poirot, Marple, Tuppence, etc. - omit Superintendant Battle.
[edit]Her characters - Poirot, Marple, Tuppence, etc. - omit Superintendant Battle. 2600:6C50:64F0:60E0:612E:CF29:DC12:F73 (talk) 23:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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