Talk:Ailsa Craig

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Pronuciation

How is Ailsa pronounced? ale-sa? ill-sa? -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 02:35, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

"ale-sa" is pretty close. The accent is on the first syllable, the final vowel is almost a schwa.

--NSH001 23:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Two infoboxes?

Do we really need an island infobox AND a mountain infobox? The article looks terrible. Propaniac 22:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I personally think the island one fits better as a lot of islands are "mountains".

-Ravedave 23:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it looks terrible. I've tried stacking them on the right, which is definitely an improvement. I don't want to lose the extra info by discarding one of them. But it's not perfect, what do others think?

--NSH001 23:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The containing table is only needed to position one table on the left - not popular here! Glad to have started discussion on my question (posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject British and Irish hills) about 2 infoboxes. A few more island pages already have Mountain infoboxes and are probably not significant enough to justify 2 pages. This page looks better, but stubs like Barra Head do not look so good with stacked infoboxes (unless you like lots of white space). The choice appears to be persisting with some combination, or considering a box combining the info for both (going against the Mountain Project's move to reduce the number of infoboxes). There might be merit in the Island infobox including more info on the island high point. Finavon 00:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply. I would be in favour of merging all of the additional content from the mountain infobox into the island infobox. To my mind, Ailsa Craig is more island than mountain (even though it's the mountain aspect that personally interests me). I think the missing details are: the lat/long coordinates and the listing ("Marilyn" in this case). — ras52 20:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The lat/long coordinates are at the top of the page, which is the norm for geography articles. I see no point in duplicating the info- we have the grid ref in the infobox instead. I've mentioned the fact that the island is a Marilyn in the "highest elevation" entry and deleted the mountain infobox. Lurker (said · done) 13:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. In a commit message, Finavon asked "Do we need prominence?" I don't think we do: for an marine island highpoint, the prominence is always the same as the elevation. — ras52 22:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Volcano?

Does being a volcanic plug of an extinct volcano really equate to it being a extinct volcano? Isn't it just a small part? --JBellis 17:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Etymology

I've removed this:

"The 10th-century Cath Maige Mucrama appears to refer to the area around Port Ríg (modern Portree) as the airer Saxan ocus Bretan, "the coastland of the English and Welsh", indicating that the region's Northumbrian character was still notable to the Gaelic-speakers settling the region in this period.<ref>Clancy, "Gall-Ghàidheil", p. 43–44; Clancy believes that [http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/G100001A/text483.html AU s.a. 913.5] ([http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T100001A/text482.html translation]), is referring to the Ayrshire coast rather than England</ref>

It is not clear as to its relevance and it would be surprising if there were Welsh or Anglo-Saxon speaking people in or near Portree in the 9th century. Ayrshire is far for more likely, but I don't have Clancy and the links are obscure. Ben MacDui 15:45, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Anyone have a better photo

Does anyone have a photo that is not so obviously doctored? No idea where that sky came from, but it certainly is wrong for the photo and pretty inconsistent with that part of the world! Joss (talk) 10:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Rather obviously photoshopped when you look closely. I've replaced it with another from Commons. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 13:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Shape

So has it changed shape dramatically since the 1840's, or was the guy who made that engraving exaggerating, or does it depend from what direction you look at it ?Tallewang (talk) 21:11, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Difference between a viewing it from the east and the north, plus a fair bit of artistic licence I'd say. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 21:25, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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Tomatoes and Onions

There are varieties of both onions and tomatoes named after Ailsa Craig, both popular in (naturally) Ayrshire, how should these be mentioned? https://www.gardenfocused.co.uk/vegetable/tomato-outdoor/variety-ailsa-craig.php https://www.cooksinfo.com/ailsa-craig-onions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.199.205.248 (talk) 00:51, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Discrepancy

The article on the Marquess of Ailsa says the island was sold in 2013. Is it wrong? Marnanel (talk) 10:16, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

From what I can find, it was not sold. It seems that when the 8th Marquess of Ailsa, Archibald Angus Charles Kennedy, died on January 16, 2015, the island was still for sale at £1.5m. At which point, it was inherited by his successor, David Kennedy, 9th Marquess of Ailsa. The island is now leased by the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) until 2050. Plkstn (talk) 02:31, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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