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Clarification needed

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One source [1] refers to Dyer's daughter as "Polly". I'm not sure if this is the "Mary Ann" referred to elsewhere and in the article. I have omitted references to Polly in the article, but more info would be appreciated.

This article has been improved, but from limited resources. Any more specific referencing would be also appreciated. Rikstar (talk) 12:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Mary Ann Dyer was also known as Polly. There was an older daughter Ellen (by George Thomas). --Michael C. Price talk 09:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

Another source <ref>(https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-angel-maker-most-prolific-221205) states that she lived in the suburb of Totterdown in Bristol in an area confusing known as Pylle Hill - as she also lived in St Georges in Pile Marsh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.164.198 (talk) 18:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date and name

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One review of "Amelia Dyer: Angel Maker" says she was born Amelia Hobley, circa 1838. --Michael C. Price talk 06:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awkward Tone

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Some of this takes a very dramatic tone, needs editing for neutrality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.10.135.150 (talk) 03:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency

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In the section "Case Study..." it says that the two babies were put in a carpetbag and dumped into the Thames on April 2 while in the follwing section it says that the parcel was fount on April 30. I don't think the babies could have been found before they were dumped. --Maxl (talk) 21:24, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've confused a few thing here. Since 30 April is after 2 April and you didn't specify which sections, I think you are looking at the end of "Case study: the murder of Doris Marmon" and the beginning of "Dyer's downfall".
The first of those two states that Doris Marmon's body was dumped on 2 April. The next section says, "Unknown to Dyer, on 30 March 1896, a package was retrieved from the Thames..." Yes, that is before the 2 April dumping. Reading on, "It contained the body of a baby girl, later identified as Helena Fry."
If I'm right about your date mix up and the sections you were looking at, it is Marmon and Fry. No inconsistency. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:59, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of sufficient citations, source and veracity unclear

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Large sections of this article are uncited raising the question of where most of this information came from and how much of it is valid vs conjecture vs pure myth. Claims of being one of the most prolific murderers are unsubstantiated due to no meaningful body count to attribute to Amelia Dyer. Additionally much of the article is written in the spirit of fiction or true crime rather than the factual, neutral tone that is the norm. 73.129.161.176 (talk) 06:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]