Talk:Iran–Contra affair

This  level-5 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:Military history: Middle East / North America / United States / Cold War

	This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.
Associated task forces: /  Middle Eastern military history task force North American military history task force United States military history task force Cold War task force (c. 1945 – c. 1989)

Cold War Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cold War, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Cold War on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Nicaragua Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Nicaragua, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Nicaragua on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Iran Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Iran, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles related to Iran on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please join the project where you can contribute to the discussions and help with our open tasks.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Drug Policy (inactive)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Drug Policy, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.

Politics: American Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

Conservatism Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Conservatism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of conservatism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Other details never covered

Ted Turner filmed two plane loads of Cocaine arriving in Florida with GW Bush standing by!

Also why was John Kerry never implicated. He was headlined in Costa Rica newspapers being at the heart if the arms and drugs ON John Hulls farm! 201.191.195.92 (talk) 19:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

there's a whole lot of Iran-Contra this article ignores, it's funny how it states the proceeds "funded" the Contra, with no mention of what the money was paying for (cocaine to produce crack) or where it was going (US inner cities) 2600:4040:7CD4:AE00:2FA2:CC88:3BE:A31B (talk) 07:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

One can infer from your comment that you think the diverted funds from the arms sales to Iran were used by the Contras to purchase blow. Now that is funny! Were they going to get the Sandinistas high, then take their weapons? Seriously, the allegations that the CIA was helping to raise funds for the Contras via drug trafficking has been reviewed/refuted in various places:

• The CIA-Contra-Crack Cocaine Controversy: A Review of the Justice Department's Investigations and Prosecutions. Washington, D.C.: United States Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General. December 1997.
• Report of Investigation Concerning Allegations of Connections Between CIA and The Contras in Cocaine Trafficking to the United States. Vol. I: The California Story. Central Intelligence Agency, Office of Inspector General, Investigations Staff. January 29, 1998.
• Report of Investigation Concerning Allegations of Connections Between CIA and The Contras in Cocaine Trafficking to the United States. Vol. II: The Contra Story. Central Intelligence Agency, Office of Inspector General, Investigations Staff. January 29, 1998.
• Select Committee on Intelligence, United States Senate (1997). "Hearings Before the Select Committee on Intelligence of the United States Senate" (pdf). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office. ISBN 0160551307.
• Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, United States House of Representatives (February 2000). "Report on the Central Intelligence Agency's Alleged Involvement in Crack Cocaine Trafficking in the Los Angeles Area" (pdf). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office. ISBN 0160604265.

Happy reading! -Location (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Having actively followed the Iran Contra Affair while it happened, I remember there being a large component in the articles about the sale drugs being used to generate a lot of the money, (no they weren't selling the drugs to the Sandinistas but to our kids!!!) and this was a thing the generated a lot of the outrage. Even if it was eventually proven false, it should be mentioned in the article, because it would be an example of disinformation being used by those who wished to expose Iran-Contral in order to make it more relevant to public so they would complain to their elected officials more vociferously. 2603:8080:4300:1802:30B9:59A8:1CD3:A65E (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Central Thrust needs clarification

The 1980-81 period needs to elucidated and footnoted in this article. For example, reference https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00965R000504340006-3.pdf ; The meetings with Casey, Barnes, Connally, the Karubi brothers, and Hashemi; quotes from Arens or Yitzhak Rabin. The opening focus on the political scandal obfuscates the actual history. Sort of like an article about an opera focusing on the critical reception. The scandal is important, but convictions for felony or treason don't stem from scandal, they stem from actions, so the historical arc should structure the article. Sustain4people2 (talk) 15:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Opening distractors

The translation of the title into farsi and Spanish is not called for by wikipedia conventions. It would be better to put the pages themselves https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ir%C3%A1n-Contra in the links at bottom maybe, but I don't know how Wikipedia regards the process for developing or linking across languages. 2604:2D80:D682:4300:D8F:F6C0:85F3:327F (talk) 15:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Why call it scandal? Should be conspiracy

Should be called a conspiracy. Per WP's definition of a Conspiracy, I think this should be included in the first paragraph. It sums up what the Iran contra affair is about. Bunch of people doing illegal things in secret. 2600:100F:A110:AB7:8852:675C:B532:1DF3 (talk) 12:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

We call it what RS calls it. Most call it "scandal". Rja13ww33 (talk) 17:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Original Research

This is the first "Good Article" I've seen on Wikipedia that has an "original research" tag in the lede. Per$1$tenceofv1$1on (talk) 14:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)