Talk:John McAfee

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Please give this guy some dignity.

I find it incredibly disrespetctful for him as a character and as a person, that after clearfully desperatively warning everyone that he wasn't suicidal, to simply determine that his cause of Death was simply suicide, I find that simply makes no sense to what we're saying. Wikipedia policy is not about self research, but about citing what others sources, say: So let me give you some sources, that I might be able to find.

1. . https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1200864283766251521?s=19
2. . https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/john-mcafee-once-said-if-he-was-ever-found-dead-in-suicide-he-didnt-kill-himself.html
3. . https://news.sky.com/story/john-mcafee-wife-says-he-didnt-appear-suicidal-in-the-hours-before-he-was-found-dead-in-spanish-jail-12341710
4. . https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/us-authorities-determined-to-have-him-die-in-prison-john-mcafees-wife-had-warned.html Sistemx (talk) 16:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

No one here has decided he died by suicide. That was the outcome of the official autopsy. Whether you consider that "dignified" or not is up to you, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

That is wrong and very misleading. An "autopsy" is a surgical procedure used to confirm the *cause of death*

Autopsy result alone CANNOT be used to confirmed the manner how death occurs.

For example an autopsy would confirmed that a person died from "asphyxiation" but there are several ways of dying from asphyxiation. Whether by self asphyxiation such as hanging, accidental asphyxiation or asphyxiation by a third person such as strangulation… other pieces of evidence from the investigation are needed to confirmed the manner of how death occurs.

So saying autopsy confirmed suicide is just factually incorrect as it is impossible to confirmed a person has taken his own life using just results from a surgical procedure alone. TonAMG53 (talk) 15:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

@Sistemx: As far as I can tell, all the sources you provided talk only about his statements prior to his death, and that is already covered in the article. Thus, we completely cite what sources say. His own words prior to the event contradicts mainstream accounts after it, but that's no reason to assume he can predict the future. If you can produce reliable sources that state "he didn't commit suicide" rather than "he said he wouldn't commit suicide", then we could update the cause of death. Gaioa (T C L) 18:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, people here are stating he died by suicide when the circumstances of his passing were suspicious. The fact that a corrupt government published an autopsy coinciding with the conclusion they wanted released to the public is irrelevant. Can we please have a little less naivete than a child here?68.204.52.145 (talk) 11:34, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

The "suspicious circumstances" are only that his official cause of death conflicted with his own statements before he died? If you have any WP:RS sources that talk about "a corrupt government" in this context, perhaps you could share them here. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Wikimedia is funded by the elites that killed him, of course they'll say that. DavidMalcolm1212112221 (talk) 09:03, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

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Please remove this:

shortly after his extradition to the U.S. was authorized by the Spanish National Court.

and add this:

shortly after the Spanish National Court authorized his extradition to the U.S.

It's solely a switch from passive to active voice. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

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Could someone revert this edit please? [1]

The amount of coverage it gives to the Safex cryptocurrency is completely disproportionate, it's sourced entirely to twitter, YouTube, a blog and a press release, it's promotionally written (full suite of advanced ecommerce functions), the editor that added it appears to be spamming Safex all over the site, and it's improperly formatted. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 10:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done Reverted. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Martinevans123 Thank you very much! 192.76.8.78 (talk) 10:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

User:Aussiesloth should discuss the text and sources here before adding it again. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

My apologies for any formatting irregularities - I would happily take any advice offered. Yes, I’m new to Wiki contributions. I own dozens of cryptocurrencies, acquired mostly in 2018.  However, most are complete rubbish and have done nothing - just raised money and produced no results.  

The exception is Safex, which is why I have been looking for opportunities to SELECTIVELY (not spamming, as asserted by the complainant) add Wiki contributions in areas where I truly believe they meet the Notability test. As for NPOV and Verifiability, I’ve tried my best to provide a neutral commentary and use what sources are available.  In this instance JM was well known to use Twitter as his primary communication medium, and therefore was heavily relied upon for the entry I made.

In addressing the reference to the “full suite of advanced ecommerce functions” - the complainant may not understand the gravity of achieving such a feat at the blockchain protocol level. Satoshi’s vision for Bitcoin included exactly that, but it was never completed and released on bitcoin. You can even look at the bitcoin source code and find unfinished marketplace-related code commented out.

I would hope my Safex entry to JM’s wiki page can be reconsidered.

FWIW, I have also done a rough draft for an actual Safex wiki page, but have not attempted to publish, as even I don’t believe there is enough independent, editorial content online (yet) to meet the Verifiability test for a new page.

I believe my Wiki entries thus far have been considered and selective. Aussiesloth (talk) 23:05, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

@Aussiesloth If you own this cryptocurrency then you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with regards to it and should not be adding content about it to articles directly. If you own a share of it then you have a financial conflict of interest because you stand to make money if the price of the currency goes up, which may be driven by the currency receiving coverage.

The addition here was indistinguishable from the crypto spam that's been going on at this website for years. An article about John McAfee should be about John McAfee, not about random cryptocurrencies that he mentioned in tweets. The amount of coverage that you added was completely disproportionate to the relative importance of Safex to the topic of John McAfee, this cryptocurrency probably does not even merit a mention here at all, let alone an entire paragraph. The sources you used were also WP:self published sources, WP:User generated content and paid coverage, all of which are among the weakest forms of sourcing available and do not demonstrate that the topic is notable or worth inclusion.

Finally you should be aware that cryptocurrency is under a general sanctions regime due to past disruption, I shall give you the required notices in a minute.

@Martinevans123 Pinging you to see if there's anything you'd like to add? 192.76.8.78 (talk) 05:50, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Nothing to add, thanks. I agree with all your comments. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:35, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

President?

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C5-1/ALDE_00013692/

How could John McAfee run for President as he was not born in the USA? Htrowsle (talk) 23:20, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

There's a fair amount of controversy over what exactly "natural born citizen" means; I believe the U.S. Supreme Court has never ruled on it. There have been various serious presidential contenders who were born outside of the U.S., most recently Ted Cruz, so it's not obvious that McAfee was ineligible. Korny O'Near (talk) 04:30, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Domain Expired, Registered by Another

McAfee's domain expired some time ago and was registered by someone else. I recommend removing it from the external links and/or replacing it with an Internet Archive link. HollyJungle (talk) 03:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)