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Merged content from Kassite art article

Given the amount of overlap with this article and kudurru and the fact that it hadn't been edited in many years at least here it will be maintained. I cargo culted in the surviving sections. THey will need a ce (bit of flowery prose to step on) and reffing pass.Ploversegg (talk) 01:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Missing: Habban

Capital city mentioned on DAB page Habban and in articles, but not even once here. Arminden (talk) 09:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

This is just from a mistake in the Babylonian Map of the World article. The capital of the Kassites was Babylon and then Dur-Kurigalzu when it was built. In the original Map sources it says "'Habban' (part of Kassite territory"

and "the land and city Habban of the Kassite tribe Bit Habban" etc. Nothing about being the capital. I'll fix the redirect. The Map article should probably be fixed too.Ploversegg (talk) 14:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Kings of Karduniaš

Aamir Khan Lepzerrin, you are quite right that in the Amarna Letters, the Kassites styled themselves as Kings of Karduniaš. But that was simply a matter of timing: Karduniaš was the Kassite name for Babylon and the Kassite Dynasty there. They would not have called themselves such before 1595 BCE or after 1155 BCEE, as they were not kings there. Kassites still existed aside from their sojourn in Babylon. Also, please be mindful of WP:3RR. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 01:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

What don't we do? We do not comment according to our own opinion. We are just collecting information. If the Kassites call themselves "Karduniash" in official records, we will indicate that. Personal comments are out of our realm. You must also comply with the warning in question. There will also be a sanction for deleting information, especially the source of which is specified.Aamir Khan Lepzerrin

Did the Kassites call themselves Kings of Karduniaš before they conquered Babylon? Dumuzid (talk) 01:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

The biggest problem of editors: Emphasizing their personal opinions instead of citing sources. As two teachers, we will not argue here. Our task is to write official information and indicate its sources. The Kassites called themselves "Karduniash", which is what we state. We cannot go beyond this.Aamir Khan Lepzerrin

Only from 1595 BCE to 1155 BCE. Dumuzid (talk) 01:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

The Kassites called themselves "Karduniash". Even if they say this for just one day, it is our duty to point this out. There's no point in discussing this. We are not holding a symposium here. We write information to Wikipedia. Aamir Khan Lepzerrin (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Even when information is sourced, it needs to be placed in the proper place. And obviously, the sources have to be used for what they actually say, e.g. Paulus (2015): "Karduniash is a geographical designation for Babylonia". NB a geographical designation. It requires minimal reading comprehension to spot that this can not be equal to the people who ruled over that polity. Toponym ≠ demonym/ethnonym. Feel free to add the actual content of the sources somewhere in the article, as long as it produces coherent text that follows the structure of the article. –Austronesier (talk) 06:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)