Talk:Khalkhin Gol

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Title

Changed the title to "Khalkhyn River", then thought better of it and changed it back. Vidor 04:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was not moved. Wizardman 00:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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Khalkhyn Gol → Khalkhyn gol — More consistent with Mongolian capitalization. Yaan (talk) 11:56, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• Oppose English normally capitalizes things, and this is the English Wikipedia. The battle article claims that in English the river is actually Khalkha River. 76.66.197.2 (talk) 15:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose. Per WP:UE move to Khalkha River TrueColour (talk) 20:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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Requested move (again)

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

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Halh River → Khalkhyn Gol – In 2009, User:Jaan proposed a move of the article "Khalkhyn Gol" into "Khalkhyn gol", citing Mongolian capitalisation rules. This was voted down based on English capitalisation rules; the outcome was that it should remain as "Khalkhyn Gol". Ignoring the 2009 discussion, User:MongolWiki first moved the article to "Khalkha River" in August 2011 with the motivation that "it suits". A few days later, in September User:MongolWiki moved the article a second time, this time to "Halh River" with motivation "MNS 5217:2003 Standard of Mongolia", again ignoring the 2009 consensus. I propose a return of the 2009 consensus article title, i.e. "Khalkhyn Gol". English Wikipedia is supposed to use English names whenever possible, and "Khalkhyn Gol" and "Khalkhin Gol" are the only names I've ever seen in English outside Wikipedia. Besides, this seems to fit WP:COMMONNAME. On the other hand, I've mostly read about the river in texts about Japanese history mentioning the battles of Khalkhin Gol, and it is possible that a different name might be used in other texts about the river. In any case, I feel that this topic needs to be discussed since I don't think that it's correct to move a page to something if a previous move discussion has resulted in the article having some other title. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Also note Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Mongolian). WP:COMMONNAME seems relevant, "MNS 5217:2003 Standard of Mongolia" clearly isn't. -Latebird (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Also note User talk:MongolWiki#Naming conventions concerning "MNS 5217:2003". Apparently, it has received some criticism elsewhere. FYI, I posted a notice on the talk page belonging to everyone who either participated in the previous renaming discussion (3 people), or who has moved this article in the past (3 people excluding the people in the former discussion), since these people may have an opinion. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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It is in Mongolia! (title edited) The map is confusing

The article currently begins by stating: "The Khalkh River (...) is a river in eastern Mongolia and northern China's Inner Mongolia region". This is fully wrong and can be easily fixed by changing the words "eastern Mongolia" with "eastern Russia". Mongolia country is not touched by this river at all. Perhaps it's a mistake, perhaps a vandalism, I don't know exactly but I think it has to be fixed. Little bishop (talk) 22:40, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Finally I realised the map is about the Amur river, not the Khalkh river. So everything written now sounds correct, but the map looks confusing. I think it should be either edited to highlight the Khalkh river, either removed because it causes confusion. --Little bishop (talk)

I clarified the image caption a bit.- Altenmann >talk 23:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)