Talk:List of commanding officers of USS Oklahoma (BB-37)

This article is rated List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:Ships

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.

Military history: Maritime / North America / United States BL‑class

	This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.
BL	This article has been rated as BL-class on the project's quality scale.
	This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status: Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met
Associated task forces: /  Maritime warfare task force North American military history task force United States military history task force

Oklahoma Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Oklahoma, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Oklahoma on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Some suggestions

• I think the lead needs to be expanded a little, specifically could it be explained how the ship was sunk but continued to serve in the US Navy until 1944 (presumably refloated?);

• Done

• could an image of the ship be added?

• Done

• the link for Spencer K. Wood goes to Spencer S. Wood - are you sure that it is the right link?
  • Yes, it is. I'm sorry I didn't do all of these, Esemono should get most of the credit. Buggie111 (talk) 13:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
• what is BatDiv5 and BatDiv6 (presumably Battleship Division 5 and 6?) but could this be linked or explained?
• the References section uses a mixture of short citations and long citations for the same source (Phister). I'd suggest adding a Notes section and using short citations (e.g. Philster 2008, p. 1) in that section, then include the full bibliographic details in a References section. See for instance the example in WP:LAYOUT. Having said this, if you want to just use a References section, I'd suggest only having the full bibliographic details once, then short citation style for citations thereafter. Currently you have a some long citations for pages 175, 23, 24 and 25 and then short for 26, 30, 29, 31, 48 and 35;

• Done

• the bare url chains should be formatted with {{cite web}} (I've done one as an example);

• Done

• is it possible to find a web link to the NY Times article "Denby Appoints Governors"?

• Done -- Esemono (talk) 12:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

• is Kenworthy Jr officially listed as a CO, or did he just temporarily act in the role? — AustralianRupert (talk) 09:39, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the mini peer review. I'll add pics of the officers with articles, work on the refs and url chains. Also, hte NY Times article seems not to want to open from me. in SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand, I was able to get a copy of an article. Maybe it's not in PD yet? Buggie111 (talk) 13:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Why did Bode run away ?

So this article makes a big deal about Bode going to another ship 34 minutes before it was sunk. Was he appointed to a different posting or just visiting it ? When a ship is in port, the commanding officer might leave the ship frequently to go ashore for whatever reason. This means someone else is in charge while he is gone. It does not mean that the person in charge while the captain is ashore, is entitled to be enshrined on the list of commanding officers of the ship. In what capacity was Kenworthy the commanding officer in this instance ?Eregli bob (talk) 13:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Bode was called over to have tea and crumpets, than just stayed on the Maryland as bombs started to fall, while Kenworthy comanded the ship. Hope this answers your question. Buggie111 (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

So we now have to find out any officer who might have been temporarily in charge of any ship anyway, while the commanding officer was not on board for whatever reason, and insert those officers into the official historical lists of commanding officers ? I think not.Eregli bob (talk) 14:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

The book I have, giving eyewitness accounts of survivors states: "I ran to the blah blah room to get the codebook, which I was responsible for until the next watch. When about to jump ship, I ran into Commander Kenworthy. I presented it to him....." Buggie111 (talk) 14:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Commander is a rank in the US Navy. If Kenworthy were in fact the commanding officer, the survivor would have referred to him as captain, regardless of actual rank. Nibios (talk) 15:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I knew that. It also says "KEnworthy ecame the active commander of Oklahoma..." and "One of the men rescued from the USS Macon was Jesse L. Kenworthy. Little did he know he would be the commanding officer...". But what ever. Buggie111 (talk) 15:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

What is Naval policy? Obviously the captain isn't always on his ship. Yet does the 2nd in command really take command during Peace Time or if the boat in port? Need confirmation from someone from the Navy but it sounds like Kenworthy wasn't the Captain or the commander but once the ship came under attack Kenworthy became default captain. -- Esemono (talk) 10:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)