Talk:Moghol language
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[edit]There is no provided reference but I think they're talking about a proto Hazaragi language. Some Hazaragi dialects are quite heavy on Mongolian words, it was probably one of these dialects. Standard Hazaragi has so many Mongol and Turkic words, it is barely classified as Persian, and the countryside Hazaragi cannot be understood by a persian speaker, and vice versa.
Specifically Dai Zangi and Dai Kundi Hazaras speak more Mongolic Hazaragi. There is no such language as 'Mogholi' to Hazaras or other people in the region, and noone else in Afghanistan has Mongol ancestory.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.197.228.61 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 October 2006
- I've now added two references, so the proof of the existence of this language is clear and we don't get more comments like the previous, unsigned one. (Taivo (talk) 13:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC))
Moghol Numbers
[edit]Numbers in Moghol after 6 seem to be Indic origin. See below.
English | Classical Mongolian | Moghol | Sanskrit | |
1 | "One" | "Nigen" | "Nika" | "Ekam" |
2 | "Two" | "Qoyar" | "Qyor" | |
3 | "Three" | "Ghurban" | "Qurbun" | |
4 | "Four" | "Dorben" | "Durbon" | |
5 | "Five" | "Tabun" | "Tuwan" | |
6 | "Six" | "Jirghughan" | "Jurghan", "Shish" | |
7 | "Seven" | "Dologhan" | "Jolan", "Huft" | "Sapta" |
8 | "Eight" | "Naiman" | "Hushtu" | "Ashta" |
9 | "Nine" | "Yisun" | "No" | "Nava" |
10 | "Ten" | "Arban" | "Arbon", "Da" | "Dasha" |
Hnn, seems quite possible, I would love to see a linguistic account of that. "hu-shtu" vs "a-shta", for example, might be easy to explain or almost unhandable ... I don't have an opinion on whether this information should be provided on the main page or not (while being skeptical about providing number tables without comments in general). G Purevdorj (talk) 07:45, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
https://www.ethnologue.com/country/af/languages/***EDITION***
https://www.ethnologue.com/language/mhj
https://web.archive.org/web/20020205070928/http://www.afghan-network.net/Culture/languages.html
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Introduction to Mongolian Comparative Studies. By Nicholas Poppe. SUOMALAIS-UGRILAINEN SEURAN TOIMITUKSIA MÉMOIRES DE LA SOCIÉTÉ FINNO-OUGRIENNE 110. Helsinki, 1955 1987. 300 pages. ISBM 951-9403 13-2 ISSN 0355-0230
G. J. RAMSTEDT, Mogholica, Beiträge zur Kenntnis der Moghol-Sprache in Afghanistan, JSFOu XXIII:4 (1906).
"Notes on Mongolian Groups in Afghanistan" by IWAMURA Shinobu and H. F. SCHURMANN, Kyoto University, Silver Jubilee Volume of the Zinbun-Kagaku-Kenkyusyo, Kyoto University, Kyoto, 1954, pages 480-515
21:12, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Those numbers from 7 to 10 are very similar to Persian: haft, hasht, noh, dah. Which makes a lot of sense because that is what most people in Herat speak.Yaan (talk) 11:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
- P.S. Farsi for 6 is shesh or shash. Yaan (talk) 11:58, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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