Talk:Pai Tavytera

Indigenous peoples of the Americas Mid‑importance

	Indigenous peoples of the Americas portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Indigenous peoples of the Americas on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Indigenous peoples of the AmericasWikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the AmericasTemplate:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the AmericasIndigenous peoples of the Americas articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Paraguay Mid‑importance

	Paraguay portal This article is part of WikiProject Paraguay, an attempt to expand, improve and standardise the content and structure of articles related to Paraguay. If you would like to participate, you can improve Pai Tavytera, or sign up and contribute to a wider array of articles like those on our to do list.ParaguayWikipedia:WikiProject ParaguayTemplate:WikiProject ParaguayParaguay articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Brazil: Geography Low‑importance

	Brazil portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Brazil, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Brazil and related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BrazilWikipedia:WikiProject BrazilTemplate:WikiProject BrazilBrazil articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Geography of Brazil task force (assessed as Low-importance).

On 24 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Pai Tavytera people. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 24 January 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. As a clerical note, the original RM proposer has been blocked as a sock. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 15:54, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– There is no primary topic for Pai Tavytera. In the similar situations (when the people and their language have the same name), usually there is no primary topic as well, see Bantu, Hausa, French, Dutch, Japanese etc. Onlk (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Proposal is WP:CONSISTENT with how we handle other similar cases. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 22:38, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The people who created the language are, with very few exceptions, the primary topic, which is the case here. Sometimes "people" has been added to a title, but it is not necessary. The majority of ethnic group articles simply have the name itself, for instance, with Abipón, Aché, Ayoreo, Chamacoco, Enxet, Mbayá, Nivaclé, Payaguá, and Sanapaná in Paraguay. Pai Tavytera (disambiguation) only has wp:twodabs, so could easily be deleted but should absolutely not take the space of Pai Tavytera. In the examples listed above (Bantu, Hausa, etc.), there are far more than two dabs (although it is still not standard practice to always place a disambiguation page in the ethnic groups' name). This conversation has already played out in numerous ethnic group articles throughout Wikipedia throughout the years, resulting in the opposite of the suggestion above. Some Foo people articles were renamed to simply Foo. Ahalenia (talk) 03:50, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Ahalenia[reply]

Note: WikiProject Brazil has been notified of this discussion. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Paraguay has been notified of this discussion. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination and ModernDayTrilobite. Would also support, however, deletion of Pai Tavytera (disambiguation) page per WP:ONEOTHER and have the two entries point to each other via hatnotes. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.