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[edit]Is it possible to say that you love an Air Force Base? I lived there and went to school there twice as a child and I'd have to say I love Ramstein and the surrounding villages and always will.
Phil Murray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean7phil (talk • contribs) 21:48, 22 November 2006
It is in Rhineland-Palatinate, not in "Rheinfeld-Pfalz". Changed that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.214.224.93 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 19 November 2006
I was assigned here
[edit]I was assigned to the 86th TFW from 8/74 to 8/77 - bwmoll3 12/10/06
local celebrity A1C Emmanuel Valles, a electrical and environmental journeymen for the 86th maintenance squadron is stationed here until february 2008. — Preceding unsigned comment added by bwmoll3 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 21 December 2006
Isn't it an American Military base in Germany?
[edit]"Ramstein Air Base is a great example of international collaboration: designed by French engineers, constructed by Germans and operated by Americans" What kind of BS is this? Does any country willingly have foreign military bases in its own territory? A little bit more explanation on why actually the French handed over the base to the americans would be better...
"International collaboration"... sheesh...(Vbroto 01:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC))
The UK, Spain, Germany (since the end of the Cold War), and Iceland to name a few have all willingly had foreign bases on their soil. The U.S. has had foreign troops stationed on several of its own military installations in the U.S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.51.198 (talk) 06:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Ramstein which has always had military personel from 6 or more countries is not international collaboration? What about your own BS?
65.101.218.54 (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Because the Americans paid for the construction of the base in the French Occupation Zone. It was needed as a replacement for the early american air bases in Bavaria after the Cold War broke out in 1948. When Ramstein/Landstuhl AB was built, Western Germany was under French, British and American military occupation. As the FRG was threatened by the Soviet Union, a status of forces agreement was agreed to with regards to NATO/USAF forces within it's territory.
Bwmoll3 02:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Isn't this a little sided?
[edit]"a relic of the Cold War in Europe and a monument to an air war that was won without ever having been fought." Won by who? Americans I guess... Anyway, what kind of comment is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vbroto (talk • contribs) 01:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Aren't YOU a little one-sided? Yes the Soviet Union was kept out of Western Europe because of bases like Ramstein. The pilots, airmen and their families should be thanked for their service by the German people. 45 years of German freedom was paid for by these efforts. Many American pilots died as a part of this effort. This was a high price that was paid. Don't forget it.
Sean7phil (talk) 05:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I have a Cold War Victory Medal, so it wasn't the Soviet Union which was victorious :)
Bwmoll3 02:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Correction-- the FORMER Soviet Union. :-)
us troops are there because they occupied germany after WWII not because of cold war - it has NOTHING to do with the 'freedom of Germans' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.199.139.167 (talk) 19:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
The Cold War started during the occupation of Germany. Keeping the Soviets out of Western Europe and enslaving it's people like they did in Eastern Europe has EVERYTHING to do with the German's freedom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.51.198 (talk) 06:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- no it's only about US geostrategic interrests and NOTHING else17:42, 5 November 2012 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.210.114.106 (talk)
Ramstein as operation bases for international Drone strikes
[edit]source :
- https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/17/ramstein/
- http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ramstein-air-base-us-drohneneinsaetze-aus-deutschland-gesteuert-a-1029264.html
Ownership
[edit]I just removed "{{flagcountry|USA}}" from infobox, because the air base / ground is owned by Rheinland-Pfalz and only "left over" to the american forces for use (see source from Bundestag, only available in German). Rgds --Cvf-ps (talk) 09:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Commander Currency/Drones
[edit]Went in to update the current commander; infobox only says "General Frank Gorenc" as a "past commander," implying he was a garrison commander. The garrison commander is the 86 AW/CC, which the article also said was Brig Gen Mordente. Went to update both to Brig Gen Richard Moore but kept getting docserv 404. Contacting Wikimedia now.
Also, there's a comment saying that "The Air Base is used to coordinate and execute most of the United States global drone program." If this were Creech, that would be an agreeable statement, however, this is not Creech and the more notable fact is that it's an airlift wing serving as a major hub for almost all transient military aircraft moving from CONUS to the ME and Africa.Sjamesellis (talk) 19:46, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- Creech may be where the the general management of drone operations is sitting, but without Ramstein, they wouldn't be able to connect with their drones since even satellites over various theaters are not accessible via direct link, the planet being in the way. Information to and from the drones as well as satellites over the theaters is routed via Ramstein's AOC and local satellite links - without them, Creech would be blind and mute. In addition, targets in Africa are picked out by AFRICOM in Stuttgart, also in Germany. Both facts didn't make the Germans and their government particularly happy, since they pose significant constitutional questions given Ramstein is technically German soil. --2A02:8106:258:3A00:3417:4E35:FDBB:8700 (talk) 23:22, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Environment removal
[edit]Hello @Thx811: About this edit, why not? Invasive Spices (talk) 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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