Talk:Reindeer

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Section size for Reindeer (42 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 3,765 3,765 Description 4,735 4,735 Status 12,212 12,212 Naming 4,948 4,948 Evolution 15,585 15,585 Taxonomy 17,711 17,711 Species and subspecies 29,411 29,411 Physical characteristics 219 29,857 Antlers 15,240 15,240 Pelt 3,184 3,184 Heat exchange 2,530 2,530 Hooves 2,407 2,407 Size 1,774 1,774 Clicking sound 1,874 1,874 Eyes 2,629 2,629 Biology and behaviors 28 12,653 Seasonal body composition 4,452 4,452 Reproduction and life cycle 2,588 2,588 Social structure, migration and range 5,585 5,585 Ecology 14 20,426 Distribution and habitat 7,935 7,935 Diet 3,728 3,728 Predators 5,881 5,881 Other threats 2,868 2,868 Conservation 19 7,164 Current status 4,985 4,985 Boreal woodland caribou 1,807 1,807 Peary caribou 353 353 Relationship with humans 8,262 40,242 Indigenous North Americans 7,003 7,003 Indigenous Eurasians 1,636 1,636 Husbandry 10,909 10,909 History 4,391 4,391 Santa Claus 1,034 1,034 Mythology and art 4,248 4,248 Heraldry and symbols 2,759 2,759 See also 193 193 Notes 26 26 References 35 35 Bibliography 517 517 External links 3,899 5,029 Caribou-specific links (North America) 1,130 1,130 Total 204,509 204,509

Temperature Error in 'Evolution'

'Around this time, northern Greenland was 11–19 °C warmer than the Holocene...' This is, of course, preposterously inaccurate. RobotBoy66 (talk) 10:57, 3 June 2023 (UTC) RobotBoy66 (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

No description in description???

Just popping in to point out this oddity: The section called "description" is almost entirely dedicated to distribution and habitat. Only the first and last paragraphs - which are also the smallest paragraphs - offer any descriptive information at all, and the descriptive info that it does offer is very cursory. I would expect to see detailed information about size, weight, coloration, differences between sexes, antler size and appearance, descriptions of juveniles, etc. Not 3 nomenclature-heavy paragraphs about where all the subspecies live.

Could it be that an editor perhaps misread "description" as "distribution"? 108.28.66.195 (talk) 22:22, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

The quote in introduction is problematic - have altered, may need more attention

"Wild reindeer "may well be the species of single greatest importance in the entire anthropological literature on hunting.""

This seems a rather extraordinary statement given the comparative ranges of reindeer and humans: most human hunters live in places without reindeer. Certainly it would seem to need a lot more justification.

I have altered it to much closer to what the reference of the statement says where it comes up on mouse-over, i.e. "Wild reindeer have long been an important resource for people inhabiting the same range."

However, I haven't got access to the article referenced - someone who has might well be able to do better :-)

FloweringOctopus (talk) 09:09, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I add, upon reading through - the paragraph now suffers from bad repetition and definitely needs altering further. FloweringOctopus (talk) 09:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Fortunately, the relevant section is available on JStor, although the full paper is not. Here's the quote:

In North America and Eurasia the species had long been an important resource - in many areas the most important resource - for peoples inhabiting the northern boreal forests and tundra regions. ... The caribou/wild reindeer is thus an animal that has been a major resource for humans throughout a tremendous geographic area and across a time span of tens of thousands of years. It may well be the species of single greatest importance in the entire anthropological literature on hunting.

There is no further justification for this statement on the opening page and, judging from the topic of the paper, probably not elsewhere within it; it's just the preamble. Anaxial (talk) 13:09, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. I could only get the abstract up.

It has to be admitted that it is technically a correct and relevant quote from a scientific paper.

However, it still seems to me to be an extraordinary claim to make without any sort of justification or reference, and I agree that the subject of the paper does suggest that it is a random preamble statement rather than one that the paper justifies at length.

Moreover, while the statement that the reindeer is an important resource matters to the subject of the article, the statement that it is the single most important species in anthropological literature on hunting is hardly a necessary one.

Unless someone with access to the full paper or, preferably, to a paper actually on the relative importance of different species in the entire anthropological literature objects, or unless someone has some other argument for restating it, I'd suggest that the quote remains removed, and I have tidied up the repetition in the relevant paragraph on this basis.

FloweringOctopus (talk) 17:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hi,

I am currently working on trying to de-orphan the article, Lichenase, and the enzyme appears in the article in the section "Ecology", subsection "Diet", first paragraph. Please link the term to the page. I am unable to do this because I have 451 edits (49 to go!), and can only edit the article once I reach 500 edits. Please do this soon.

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Avi

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Avishai11 (talk) 19:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Anaxial (talk) 20:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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Change rein to hreinn in the last sentence of 'naming' section. Rein is an Icelandic word but does not mean reindeer. 31.209.148.106 (talk) 09:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. UtherSRG (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)