Talk:Roberto Orci

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Roberto Orci article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

• Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
• New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

• Assume good faith
• Be polite and avoid personal attacks
• Be welcoming to newcomers
• Seek dispute resolution if needed

Article policies

• Neutral point of view
• No original research
• Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:Biography: Actors and Filmmakers

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers (assessed as Low-importance).

Mexico Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mexico, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Mexico on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Screenwriters Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Screenwriters, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of screenwriting, screenwriters, and related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Star Trek Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Star Trek, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to all Star Trek-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Television Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American television task force (assessed as Low-importance).

References

I have removed the unreferenced tag from the article after adding a couple of references. I have been unable to find a reliable source for a date of birth, although I'm fairly certain of the year of birth. -- Scjessey (talk) 15:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Education

What did Roberto Orci study? Did he study anything related to filmmaking and/or screenwriting or was it something completely different? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.207.222.85 (talk) 18:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Roberto Orci/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ruby2010 (talk · contribs) 22:46, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I shall review this, hopefully within the next few days. Ruby 2010/2013 22:46, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm so sorry for the delay with this review – I spilled some water on my laptop two weeks ago, so my ability to edit has been a bit limited lately! I do intend to complete this review soon. Ruby 2010/2013 14:08, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

No problem! Miyagawa (talk) 19:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Preliminary comments

• Screenwriter can probably be unlinked, per WP:OVERLINK

• Done. Miyagawa (talk) 10:06, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• For easier readability, I feel that this sentence could be broken up: He began to work with longtime collaborator Alex Kurtzman while at school in California, and together they have worked on television series such as Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, Xena: Warrior Princess, and have created Sleepy Hollow alongside Phillip Iscove, and Fringe with J. J. Abrams..

• How about, "He began to work with longtime collaborator Alex Kurtzman while at school in California. Together they have worked on many television series including Hercules: The Legendary Journey and Xena: Warrior Princess. In 2008, the pair collaborated with J. J. Abrams to create the science fiction series Fringe. In 2013, Orci and Kurtzman created Sleepy Hollow alongside Phillip Iscove."
• Done. Miyagawa (talk) 10:06, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• "The duo since returned..." --> "He and Kurtzman since returned..."

• Done. Miyagawa (talk) 10:06, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Lots of repetition of "work" in the lead – can you input some alternate wording?

• I've reduced that quite a bit. Miyagawa (talk) 10:06, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Do you know why they began working with Abrams on Alias? Why did he hire them? I feel this is important, since the three have collaborated so much since (but it's ok if you have trouble finding anything – I'll try looking too).

• The only information I can find is on a DVD description on Amazon.com (so no use here) by the Writers Guild of America that Orci and Kurtzman were approached to join the writing team. This would have been on the basis of their work on Xena I imagine. I'll keep looking - they might mention something in their filmed interviews with the WGA. Miyagawa (talk) 10:44, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Same for Michael Bay – is there any information out there on why Bay might have hired them?

• I'm not sure about this either - I managed to find a single mention by Orci about some possible apprehensiveness on Bay's part, but that's literally the only reference I can find by Orci to working on the film. Miyagawa (talk) 10:44, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• I found a few articles about their relationship that might help: [1] [2] Ruby 2010/2013 16:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• I find myself wondering about Orci's opinion towards these early projects. Is there anything out there you could include? I feel a bit more autobiographical detail wouldn't hurt here.

More to come! Ruby 2010/2013 05:12, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

More comments

• "Orci and Kurtzman's K/O Paper Products continues to operate as a production company within CBS Television Studios, and announced that they were working on a pilot based ..." Who announced this? The duo, company, or network?

• I've re-written that line - when I wrote that originally, Limitless was still at the pilot stage. Miyagawa (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• Since Orci is an American, shouldn't the article be written in American English?

• Completely. Unfortunately I'm a British English writer, so if you could point me at what I've done, I'd appreciate it as then I can make those fixes. Miyagawa (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• No problem. I've gone through and made some AmEng copyedits. Ruby 2010/2013 04:45, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

• Has it been revealed why Orci was dropped from directing Star Trek 3? Perhaps due to his controversial comments?

• Funnily enough, his comments were prior to being initially hired! Although it hasn't been specifically said, it was been hinted that he was dropped because he was unwilling to compromise on his script which apparently included some degree of time travel once again and the studio was hesitant to go there. So they dropped the script, and in turn dropped him from the director's position as well. He's still credited on the existing film as a writer, despite not a single line of his version appearing in the final script as it was completely re-written from scratch. Miyagawa (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• That is interesting! But I suppose if no sources have actually confirmed that, we can't add it to Orci's article. Ruby 2010/2013 04:45, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

• I found a bit more biographical information on him here and here [3]

• Thanks, I've added those. Miyagawa (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• This article mentions that Matador was cancelled. Include in Orci's article? Ruby 2010/2013 16:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks, I've added that. Miyagawa (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

The article is really looking good, but I'm finding that there is a lot of content out there for possible inclusion. You don't necessarily need to go through the articles I posted, but I feel some of them contain some good details. Let me know what you think. Thanks! Ruby 2010/2013

• Thanks, I've added those you suggested and also added a couple more of my own as I realised I hadn't mentioned Scorpion in the text of the article etc. Miyagawa (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Final

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Alright, I've made some additional copyedits and checked the article per the criteria above. I think it is now ready for GA-status. I'm so sorry again for the delay in finishing this review – I've had some computer issues lately, but I know that's no excuse. You've been very patient and responsive during this whole process, so I wanted to end this review with that most cliché of lines: keep up the great (WP) work! I always enjoy reading your articles and hope to continue doing so in the future. Ruby 2010/2013 04:45, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

No mention of his affinity for 9/11 conspiracy theories?

A bit odd. He's been very outspoken; going so far as calling people who do not believe that 9/11 was an inside job "coincidence theorists." --Wikipedia Wonderful 698-D (talk) 18:37, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

If you can provide a source you are welcome to add this to the article. --Jazzman (talk) 07:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Roberto Orci. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141010064705/http://screencrave.com/2012-07-16/star-trek-2-writer-denies-villain-reveal/ to http://screencrave.com/2012-07-16/star-trek-2-writer-denies-villain-reveal/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:15, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

"Sneaky Shark" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sneaky Shark. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 30#Sneaky Shark until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:20, 30 July 2020 (UTC)