Talk:Shadows and Fog

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Madonna

The relative "whorishness" of Madonna aside, if I remember correctly, she played a high wire acrobat in the movie, not a prostitute (I'm also thinking that her husband was the "strong man"). Could someone check this and make any changes as necessary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.127.254 (talk) 14:20, 8 February 2007

yes, you're correct.. Madonna's sleeping husband was the "strong man" thus one more reason for her and John to be very quite and not wake him; he would/could kill them w/ his bare hands! 76.218.248.127 (talk) 01:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

just my 2cents, but i always felt especially after reading Allen's short story, from which the film is based...like the opening scene of movie and book, he is awaken from sleep.. could this (the plot) really all be just a dream? 76.218.248.127 (talk) 01:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Influences

The accompanying article is shockingly terse about influences:

... an homage to Fritz Lang, G.W. Pabst and F.W. Murnau, and the German Expressionists.

1. It should say at least as much as German Expressionism#Other examples (in its 2nd point):

   Woody Allen's 1992 film, Shadows and Fog, is a pastiche of expressionism, taking cues from several films, such as the plot of M (1931) and the look of Nosferatu.

2. But they both fail to cite the obvious homage (by Allen, an enthusiast for The Sorrow and the Pity) to Night and Fog (film)).
   (No, i don't suggest adding it anywhere without citations: this is a request to look for the citations, and write accordingly.)

--Jerzy•t 02:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

It draws one of its subplots almost directly from Ingmar Bergman's "Sawdust and Tinsel," which should probably be mentioned. --24.98.198.35 (talk) 22:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Anti-semitism

I think it deserves mention that the film makes frequent reference to the anti-semitism of the German 3rd Reich era, in connection of the themes from M and Kafka. It is something that Woody Allen treated lightly in the film, but that is generally his way of addressing his themes. While he frequently jokes about anti-semitism in his films, this one addresses it in a more serious way (e.g. German military people putting his name on a list). Rlitwin (talk) 01:15, 10 June 2011 (UTC)