Talk:Stirling Moss

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Section size for Stirling Moss (31 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 3,296 3,296 Early life 2,835 2,835 Racing career 1,969 19,465 1948–1954 5,855 5,855 1955 1,723 3,521 Mille Miglia 1,798 1,798 1956–1962 8,120 8,120 Speed records 18 2,261 1950 792 792 1952 1,028 1,028 1957 423 423 Broadcasting career 1,272 1,272 Return to racing 5,734 5,734 Post-racing career 2,294 12,908 Honours 3,453 3,453 Biographies 1,766 1,766 Popular culture 5,395 5,395 Personal life 5,889 5,889 Racing record 18 114,550 Career highlights 67,990 67,990 Complete Formula One World Championship results 12,949 12,949 Non-championship results 19,064 19,064 Complete 24 Hours of Le Mans results 3,210 3,210 Complete 12 Hours of Sebring results 3,774 3,774 Complete 12 Hours of Reims results 1,145 1,145 Complete Mille Miglia results 1,711 1,711 Complete Rallye de Monte Carlo results 1,162 1,162 Complete Bathurst 1000 results 743 743 Complete British Saloon Car Championship results 2,784 2,784 References 30 30 External links 4,715 4,715 Total 172,955 172,955

Jewish Ancestry

I recently made an edit, reverted by SchroCat, which removed the statement that Moss' family was Jewish. I replaced the sentence with a clarification that his paternal grandfather was Jewish, which so far as I can glean from the other sources available on this matter is the extent of his Jewish roots. The source for the claim (more of an implication really) that his entire extended family is Jewish is a single unsubstantiated sentence in the Jewish Chronicle's obituary, which also states that the family name was changed from Moses to Moss. The second part does indeed corroborate the well-established fact that his father was of Jewish descent, however this does not account for his mother (née Craufurd, a Scottish name). As I can find no other sources to support the suggestion that his mother was Jewish, I question the veracity of this statement and strongly suggest that we stick with the already well-founded consensus that his father was of Jewish descent on his father's side. I do not wish to engage in an edit war, so I'd like to resolve this in the talk page if possible before I restore my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icegrommet (talk • contribs) 21:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

As I said in my edit summary: you need to provide references from WP:RELIABLE SOURCES that back up what you say. You may well be right, but without any other sources that say otherwise, we go with what the only other source says. - SchroCat (talk) 23:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

There are plenty of sources. The Guardian talks about Alfred Moss being a "descendant of a family of Ashkenazi Jews" [1], while Car and Driver states "Moss, whose mother was Scottish but whose father was (apparently) part Jewish".[2] There is no need to incorrectly infer that his entire family was Jewish. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:22, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

That's fine - feel free to make the changes with the sources. The reason it was reverted first time is that Icegrommet changed the text without bothering to change the source, which is a no-no. The burden is on them to bring the sources to the article. - SchroCat (talk) 05:36, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Targa Tasmania 1992

In 1992, at Targa Tasmania, Moss was driving on the wrong side of the road in Bonneys Hill, Moriarty and crashed into Joy and Malcolm Murray as they were returning home. It took two hours to cut Joy Murray from the wreckage, and she spent nine days in hospital after receiving cuts around her eyes, temporarily blinding her. Malcolm Murray suffered permanent memory loss. Moss was charged with driving on the wrong side of the road.

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/676672/public-roads-no-place-for-racing/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiobhanL (talk • contribs) 00:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)