Talk:Thunder (mascot)
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[edit]Parking for later:
- http://www.9news.com/picture-gallery/sports/nfl/superbowl/2016/02/07/photos-levis-stadium-before-kickoff-at-super-bowl-50/79979258/ copyighted photo of Thunder coming onto the field for Super Bowl 50
- http://rocketminer.com/stories/Denver-Bronco-mascot-stranded-in-Rock-Springs,138572?content_source=&category_id=67&search_filter=&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=&sub_type=stories&town_id= About being stranded for two days in Rock Springs, Wyo.
- http://www.ktvu.com/news/84670032-story#.VrRER2lwofQ.facebook More on the I-80 closure
- http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/minute-meet-denver-broncos-mascot-thunder/story?id=36721802 Goofy good luck ritual
- https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/behind-stall-door-thunder-denver-broncos-mascot Excellent behind the scenes profile
- http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Thunder-Is-The-Arabian-Horse-Ambassador-At-Super-Bowl-50.html?soid=1102546521474&aid=_dW31IwlatQ AHA news clip
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0QnoKdgpis Team coming onto the field, led by Thunder at 0:40
- https://www.villagerpublishing.com/77162/opinion/kindling-sitting-around-the-fireplace/ about Pat Bowlen and 2014 Super Bowl
Pre-FAC discussion
[edit]OK, stable and GTG
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Atsme, your wikignoming has been helpful, but let's discuss any major changes. Basically, before doing anything to the lead, I want to be sure that the body of the article is good to go. Per WP:LEAD, the lead is a summary of the most salient points of the article. The other stuff has potential, but be aware that I utterly and completely loathe parenthetical statements in articles (I use them constantly in conversations where I digress, but consider them informal style to be discouraged in formal writing) and avoid them as much as possible. The only other thing is to stick VERY close to the sources (without too-close paraphrasing); we cannot add facts beyond what the sources say, if we need to add new material, we have to find new sources, or not separate sources from the material they cite. Montanabw(talk) 01:59, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the bold edits; I tried to keep most of your rephrasing (it was good!) but I had to revert some of the bigger changes for various reasons. A few things "extrapolated" a little too far from the sources or some of the cites got got separated, one was duplicated with different names (I tend to use author's last name). I also suspect we'll get smacked -- hard -- if we have too much "sparkly" phrasing. I do like sparkling prose, but I've been criticized on these horse articles in the past for getting too sparkly! ;) I tossed some info that was already mentioned elsewhere in the article. (like the gal who was the first rider; apparently, according to Judge-Wegener, she actually couldn't handle the horse very well... I don't think that detail needs to be in the article, but I hesitate to put her too front and center in the history for that reason, better to bury it farther down, IMHO). Open to discussion of moving stuff around, and tossed material doesn't mean they are gone for good, but maybe let's discuss what's not good about the existing version and look at a better way to fix it??? I figured if you tweaked a section, it has some kind of problem -- I'd like to keep playing with how to make it better! Montanabw(talk) 08:29, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok, Montanabw - I made some needed adjustments (in a separate edit in the event you oppose it so strongly you can't resist the urge to revert) but please let me explain first. I reordered random sentences that broke the consistency of the syntactic structure, not to mention being out of context in relation to the main flow of each paragraph. For example, the first para in the lead mentions Thunder's 4 Super Bowl appearances without saying which ones until much later in the lead where it simply doesn't fit. Another example - the final paragraph ended with personality descriptions. The 2nd paragraph was far more relative to personalities and training, etc. so I moved it there. It flows so much better. Now then, before I move down the page to finish ce the remaining paragraphs, I want you to carefully consider incorporating the 3rd paragraph of the lead into the body. It really doesn't add anything to the lead and actually defines in more detail what was already mentioned in the first two paragraphs. Anxious to see what you think. Atsme📞📧 19:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
All for now. More to come. Montanabw(talk) 23:57, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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This beats me.
[edit]I mean, an article rated Low-importance in both WikiProjects that include it (NFL and Equine) is a Featured article? Are there no better candidates? Besides, this is certainly only relevant to a rather small group of readers (mostly US citizens, of course), and not to a broader English-speaking audience (who, like myself, are not, necessarily, US citizens). I'm disappointed, and I'm starting to think that there's some behind-the-scenes lobbying going on here. tromaster (talk) 00:42, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- So go write a featured article. They need a TFA every day of the year. See WP:FA for details. Montanabw(talk) 00:01, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- I ain't a US citizen either but found it a well-written article, with fascinating insights. That's what matters. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 08:06, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- The importance ranking means nothing when it comes to the article's status. FAs are decided based on writing, sourcing, and the rest of the criteria. It doesn't matter if they are only relevant to a few readers. Any article can be FA if it's notable enough for Wikipedia and somebody is willing to do the level of work it takes to get it there. And it is a freaking lot of work. White Arabian Filly Neigh 22:07, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- I ain't a US citizen either but found it a well-written article, with fascinating insights. That's what matters. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 08:06, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, this is an overblown pap piece for the mascot, and should probably be cut by at least half (does anyone outside the inner circle care where the rider went to college?).
New source
[edit]Sports Illustrated story on Thunder: Fills in some gaps. [3]. Montanabw(talk) 06:44, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Gaps? There are gaps in this endless paean?Mukogodo (talk) 22:41, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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Possible removal of TFA?
[edit]This is unofficial because I want editors of this a few weeks to remove all invisible comments on this, if not, I will ask for the TFA to be removed, please listen to me, thank you. Sportsfangnome (talk) 20:02, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sportsfangnome, I don't understand what you're saying or what you are trying to say. Drmies (talk) 20:04, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- There are invisible comments suggesting that it does not need the TFA anymore, so I am asking y'all to save it please, otherwise, I would make a request for it to be removed as a TFA. Sportsfangnome (talk) 20:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- That doesn't make any sense at all. Drmies (talk) 13:05, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- There are invisible comments suggesting that it does not need the TFA anymore, so I am asking y'all to save it please, otherwise, I would make a request for it to be removed as a TFA. Sportsfangnome (talk) 20:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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