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Venona Articles Cleanup

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This page is for tracking a check of the articles linked in this article. Several of them have already been found to contain OR, copyvio, and inaccurate information, or to be about individuals who are not notable. I am (very slowly) working through them, this page is for keeping track of that effort.

Articles with problems that need fixing

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Nicholas W. Orloff

original research (list of Venoma mentions). Article text is COPYVIO from Haynes' appendix. Fixed, stubbed for now. Could be expanded with the discussion in Haynes' appendix, or, if not covered in depth in other RS, might be a candidate for AFD. Is only discussed in Haynes' appendix.

Edna Patterson

copyvio from: here. OR list of Venona mentions. fixed, stubbed for now. Probably notable, the article can likely be expanded with the archive link and the discussion in Haynes' book.

George Gorchoff

Cleaned up, sent to AFD as a test case. Probably not notable.
Deleted as a result of AFD

Emma Harriet Joseph

Cleaned up, sent to AFD. Does not appear notable.

Rebecca Getzoff

OR list of Venoma mentions, sourcing may be suspect (check where/how Haynes mentions her)

Margietta Voge

slim evidence: mentioned only in Haynes' appendix. Her name is spelled wrong in the article title. Article can be improved using sources on her career as a scientist
Mostly fixed by General Ization & Collect. Notable, but as a scientist - article still needs tweaking to ensure that claims about her alleged espionage are verifiable (and not cited to OR).

Charles Bradford Sheppard

Article contradicts itself. OR list of Venona mentions. Is only mentioned in Hayne's appendix, details in the article appear un-verifiable as far as I can tell.

Stephan Rich

OR removed, article moved to correct name (was mis-spelled). Needs to be sent to AFD eventually I think - does not appear notable.
Sent to AFD, is clearly not notable.

Abraham George Silverman

Discussion of espionage is unsourced, may be OR. Scrutinize sources and verify.

Eufrosina Dvoichenko-Markov

OR already removed, but has no inline citations. Verify/check claims and add in-line sources.

FBI Silvermaster File

Rampant OR.

Anna Louise Strong

Preliminary cleanup done, sourcing is a mess though: no/very few in-line refs, sources for the info in the article are unclear. Much of it may be OR, there was a list of archival sources under "further reading," which I've removed.

Milton Schwartz

Preliminary cleanup done. May not be notable - but there is a discussion of him in the linked article, only mention of him is as follows: " subparagraph 1(a) of the message states that one of the five, Milton Schwartz (‘Matrei’) has requested a loan of $1,200 from the GRU to care for his ailing father. Another message establishes that an individual who was certainly an agent of the GRU backed Schwartz’s request.73 Inasmuch as the GRU was not a charitable organization, it appears highly probable that Schwartz was at least a witting informant. The examples of Halperin and Schwartz show that the mere fact that the name of one or the other of the Hisses appeared spelled out in a message from the New York station of the GRU cannot be taken as definitely indicative of innocence in respect of espionage. Neither, of course, does it suggest guilt" Context is question (in relation to Hiss) of whether the name being mentioned in the cables means much.

Isabel Gallardo

OR needs removing, likely AFD candidate (does not appear notable). Sent to AFD.

Maria Wicher

Check claims and cite them properly. Assess for notability.

Kenneth Richardson

OR needs removing, move refs inline. Assess for notability.

Articles to vet for OR, verifiability, and copyvio

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John Abt**[1]

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  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z aa ab ac ad ae af ag ah ai aj ak al am an ao ap aq ar as at au av aw ax ay az ba bb bc bd be bf bg bh bi bj bk bl bm bn bo bp bq br bs bt bu bv bw bx by bz ca cb cc cd ce cf cg ch ci cj ck cl cm cn co cp cq cr cs ct cu cv cw cx cy cz da db dc dd de df dg dh di dj dk {{citation}}: Empty citation (help)
  2. ^ Haynes notes on the appearance of codename Son/Syn in the Verona documents, "unidentified in NSA/FBI notes but clearly Rudy Baker in SECRET WORLD"
  3. ^ Haynes' notes state: "Burns, Paul, NSA/FBI shows as Berne and Bernay, but clearly is ti[sic] Burns."
  4. ^ Polish citizen, U.S. resident 1912-47 (Haynes, 2007)
  5. ^ "Graze, Gerald = Arena. one single reference to Graze as Arena in corrected proof but removed in final: and reference to Graze as Dan in uncorrected proof but removed in the corrected. [source Weinstein Vassiliev Haunted Wood]" (Haynes, 2007)
  6. ^ Haynes notes: "source in Perlo group, identified as having cover name Tan in uncorrected proof, but Tan's identify redacted in final, but Magdoff still identified as a source: source Weinstein Haunted Wood)"
  7. ^ Haynes, 2007, notes that the positive identification of Setaro with codenames "Zhan" and "Gonets" was redacted in the Venona documents
  8. ^ Haynes notes: "Sobell, Morton = Rele = Relay = Sebr = Serb but identification unclear ??"
  9. ^ Haynes notes: "Witczak, Ignacy = V (in Los Angeles, Witczak was [sic] false papers taken from real Witczak a Polish Jew migrant to Canada who died in Spain. [source Stephenson Intrepid's Last]"