User talk:Lepricavark

MOS:ORDER

Thank you for added dating tags but please read MOS:ORDER before doing any more. The short description always goes before that dating tag. Please go back and fix those. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Does it make any difference which comes first? LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

The MOS thinks so. And I agree Masterhatch (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Surely you can provide an actual answer. I'm willing to make the switch for the time being, but I need an actual reason. This is not something that affects the reader in any way. If you're going to ask me to make my own job more difficult, then I'd appreciate a little courtesy. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

MOS:ORDER is important so we don't get stupid stuff like stub tags and categories put at the top and short descriptions put at the bottom. Masterhatch (talk) 17:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't put stub tags or categories at the top, nor do I put short descriptions at the bottom. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I didn't say you did. I was giving an example of why MOS:ORDER is important. And, really, is it that hard to put it below the SD? Masterhatch (talk) 17:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

It adds an extra step to every edit, which I find especially annoying given that you still haven't taken the step of substantively answering my original question. I didn't ask why the MOS is so important; I asked whether it makes any actually difference whether the template comes before or after the SD. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

It's been discussed at length here and here. If you don't think its important enough to take one extra step then i suggest you start up a new discussion Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout. Masterhatch (talk) 18:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for linking those discussions, although I doubt they can answer my question of whether it actually makes any difference. In fact, it makes essentially no difference whether the dates template comes before the SD. It will not affect readers in any way, nor will it affect anything else. I am not interested in talking with other editors who share the inflexible commitment to the MOS that you've displayed here, so I will not be starting any new discussions. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Upon further consideration, thank you for bringing this issue to my attention, and I apologize for the surliness of my original replies. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

It's all good. Masterhatch (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)