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Draft : Michael Beil

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Thank you for reviewing my draft article on Michael Beil (Draft:Michael Beil). I read that the submission was declined. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on the two critiques? I have already, as you requested, removed the external links from the main text.

  1. I've been working very hard on supporting every statement in the article with reliable sources. Could you please point out some examples of statements or passages that are not adequately supported and/or sources that are not considered reliable?

2. I've be sifting through the article (and had several colleagues of mine read it) in search for peacock terms, promotional tone or language that is otherwise not neutral, and I can't find out what seems to be so problematic. I do admit that the text isn't bone dry, but I've read many Wikipedia articles on classical composers and their music that aren't. If you see any problematic wording, could you please point out one or two examples?

As you can see, I've been working on the article for a very long time and I would really like to see it published.

Thank you for your advice!

All the best RDiependaele (talk) 20:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RDiependaele: Hi, right now your draft reads like an essay. Personal interpretations and analysis do not belong in Wikipedia articles (e.g.: The realization of such compositions also requires complex production conditions, and very disciplined actions and skilled theatricality on the part of the musicians. Therefore, they are usually created in close collaboration with the performers., Recognizable quotations from existing works by other composers are inspiring building blocks for Beil because of the emotional charge or the references already attached to them. It is those connotations that the composer uses as material – a new meaning that can fade or appear subsequently by incorporating the quotations in new musical contexts., Those compositions, which were in line with the usual conventions of their genres, at the same time sharpened his interest in the visual dimensions of concert performance. In this sense, they helped create the ground for Beil's later artistic work, which focuses on the interaction between sound and image., etc. Some parts are also blatant advertising (e.g.: Beil makes his own scores, MAX patches and tapes available simply and free of charge through his website.). Wikipedia does not care about what the subject says about themself (ex: through their own website). The majority of the references I spot-checked do not verify the information provided either. Original research does not belong on Wikipedia. You should only summarize what reliable, secondary sources have said him.
Those were the blatant fails I declined your draft for. I also don't see how the subject meets either the notability guideline for musicians or the general notability guideline for people, which is something you'll have to prove in order for your draft to be accepted. C F A 💬 02:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Thank you for taking the time to clarify your standpoint, I think it is quite helpful. I've been working an a drastically shortened article in my sandbox. Could you take a moment to have a look at it? User:RDiependaele/sandbox
Regarding the notability question: I don't think this should be a problem.
  1. Michael Beil is a leading figure in contemporary classical music in Europe. His works are performed at (and were often commissioned by) some of the world's most reknowned festivals in this genre, such as the Internationalel Ferienkurse für neue Musik in Darmstadt and the SWR Donaueschinger Musiktage. Furthermore, Michael Beil has received the Deutscher Musikautor*innen-Preis from GEMA, which is not a small prize.
2. When it come to academic interest, my first footnote refers to the MGG, which is the online version of Die Musik in Geschichte und Gegenwart. Together with The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, the MGG is one of the most extensive and reliable musicological encyclopedia. When it comes to living composers (or musicians, or musicologists, for that matter) they only include people with an international relevance and solid oeuvre. 'Een kleine muziekgeschiedenis van hier en nu' (ed. Mark Delaere) is written by a team of academic musicologists from Belgium and The Netherlands and is e.g. used as a textbook for musicology students at the universities of Leuven and Amsterdam. The French institution IRCAM keeps a page about Michael Beil as wel: https://brahms.ircam.fr/en/michael-beil.
3. For reference, I looked up a few composers that, in my view, have a somewhat similar profile, such as Enno Poppe James Saunders (composer) Thierry Escaich Jennifer Walshe Luc Brewaeys Fausto Romitelli Johannes Kreidler Alexander Schubert Simon Steen-Andersen
I hope this information is sufficient. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
Best & thanks RDiependaele (talk) 20:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CFA,

What happened here? Why are you moving valid redirects to your User space where they are tagged for deletion? This is not how things are done. If you want to move a draft or article to a page that has a redirect, then go to the page with the redirect, using Twinkle, tag it CSD>G6 Move and in the field, put the name of the draft or article that you want moved and an admin will take care of it.

The way you handled it causes us to lose all of the page history that comes from the original redirect and it ends up on a deleted page in your User space which is kind of ridiculous. If you are going to do page moves, you really have no reason to use your own User space. Let's work on keeping all of the page history with a particular page title together, whether it's the current page history or the deleted page history. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same goes with User:CFA/moves/Haydon Mustard. Liz Read! Talk! 05:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Is that not what {{db-moved}} is for? I used to always tag redirects for {{db-afc-move}} and wait for an admin but sometimes I'd forget to come back and accept the draft. I didn't realize {{db-moved}} existed until I saw WT:AFC#User:Robert McClenon/Nassau County Bridge Authority on WT:AFC. C F A 💬 14:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is another reason to hate the round-robin move system, but so long as things are the way they are, wouldn't it be more in-line with usual page-moving practice to use subpage under Draft:Move/ instead? --Paul_012 (talk) 10:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe, but I'm not actually doing a round-robin swap here. I could, and nothing would even have to be deleted, but the WP:AFCH script doesn't support them (so I'd have to do a bunch of steps manually after the move). This is just a hack to avoid waiting for an admin to complete the G6, by moving it out of the way without leaving a redirect then deleting it later. I figured this wouldn't be an issue because {{db-moved}} seems to exist for this purpose, but I'll just go back to G6 tagging since someone objected. C F A 💬 14:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Laylacat12 (00:50, 21 August 2024)

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Hi i've got a boyfriend --Laylacat12 (talk) 00:50, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Royiswariii (11:36, 21 August 2024)

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Hi! I'm planning to add a Personnel section to the Cherry on Top (Bini song) article. Is it necessary to include everyone involved in the production and all the team members who contributed to the song and music video? Quite a few people were involved in this project.

Edit: There's 4 teams in personel section. --Royiswariii (talk) 11:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Royiswariii: Hi, no, probably not. Information generally doesn't have to be included just because it's true. If all the person has received is a trivial mention in the song credits, then there's probably no reason to include their name in the article. Wikipedia, for the most part, is based on what secondary sources say, and due weight should be given proportional to the amount of coverage they have received. It's ultimately up to your discretion, but I would avoid including names unless their roles have been at least partially detailed in reliable, secondary sources. Happy editing, C F A 💬 15:03, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please abide Wikipedia's Username Policy.

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Note that this restriction does not apply to signatures, which are governed by Wikipedia's policies on the use of signatures. Mazshan (talk) 17:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why Muavia Azam move was considered technical and not contested since the latest move was performed by me and not the sock? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SheriffIsInTown: Because undiscussed moves are eligible to be reverted by anyone, no matter who moved it originally. In this case, the requester wanted to revert to the stable title after two undiscussed moves (one of which was by a sock). You can open a requested move discussion if you want to propose another title, as your bold move was contested by someone else and now has to be discussed. Happy editing, C F A 💬 00:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appealing draft you looked at!

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Hello! I was hoping to discuss a draft you looked at recently that I'm working on. I believe strongly that Danial fits the notable criteria listed for chess players, specifically point 3 stating, "Has won a national or continental championship or women's championship." as he's won all 3 major scholastic national tournaments and the North American U-20 Championship.

The current reason for submission decline is around significant coverage. Below I've linked 4 concrete sources from 2 established newspapers that cover Danial. While I understand they come from newspapers in Santa Monica, I'd like to postulate that they fit within reliable, secondary sources, and are reasonable given there isn't a great deal of chess coverage in the major papers.

1. https://smdp.com/2021/01/09/samohi-alumnus-goes-for-grandmaster/

2. https://smdp.com/2020/06/29/local-beats-grandmaster-to-win-national-chess-tournament/

3. https://smdp.com/2016/05/20/local-student-wins-national-chess-title/

4. https://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2016/January-2016/01_26_2016_Santa_Monica_Student_Is_National_Chess_Champ.html

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Thank you! BenJohnson7 (talk) 03:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BenJohnson7: Hi, I'm not sure why you're asking me because when I declined your draft, there were only two database entries as sources (which are neither significant coverage nor independent). There have been two declines by other reviewers since. Regardless, WP:NCHESS is an essay, not a real notability guideline. It is simply stating what is likely to result in enough coverage to meet the basic notability guidelines for people. Your first three sources are all by the same local newspaper. Source 4 is another local, somewhat routine piece that isn't particularly useful for establishing notability. These articles do help, but aren't enough on their own. There should be at least some coverage outside of hyper-local newspapers where coverage is expected. Also, how do you know the subject? Your only edits are about the subject which often indicates you have some sort of conflict of interest. C F A 💬 03:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission of Draft:Samuel Miele

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Good morning, was hoping you could reconsider the Samuel Miele draft that you recently rejected.

The subject person has substantial global coverage at hand with extreme public interest, and more details of his background, as well as ventures, have been released in multiple reputable articles and sources. In other words, not just one event has defined the subject at hand. His page is not yet complete, but I believe it would be beneficial to the Wikipedia community to go forward with submission. Oceanview99 (talk) 12:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Obatula Abiola Moshood (14:12, 22 August 2024)

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Hello Mentor, it's a great help to have you around. I am new at wiki can you please guide me on starting with Edits? --Obatula Abiola Moshood (talk) 14:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Obatula Abiola Moshood: Welcome to Wikipedia! You might want to check out Help:Introduction or The Wikipedia Adventure (a game that shows you around). There should also be some tasks on your Homepage that will show you how to use Wikipedia. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing! C F A 💬 15:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Erroneous reversion

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What is the reason for this edit? You merely restored punctuation errors that had been corrected by the edit that you reverted. See what WP:MOS says about hyphens and en-dashes. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:37, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael Hardy: Because they added a random "f" to "Riley-Day" as their only apparent change. They fixed it right at the same time that I reverted, which I didn't notice. It looked like an editing test to me. C F A 💬 16:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Lekhawiki (02:09, 23 August 2024)

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How do i start editing --Lekhawiki (talk) 02:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lekhawiki: Welcome to Wikipedia! I've left some links on your talk page. You may wish to check out Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing! C F A 💬 03:42, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CFA There is Copyright Violation in their user page He is Always Copying My User Page and Paste it In their User Page, Please Revert Their Edit and Warn them about copyright violations! Raayaan9911 (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Raayaan9911! A Wikipedia user page isn’t copyright, not everything is copyright! I support alhilal ok? And I’m also a Muslim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bebo12321 (talkcontribs) 13:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User pages, don't count as copyright, please, learn about copyright then say something about it Bebo12321 - Talk 13:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bebo12321 I think you copied Muslim Userbox and Email and paste it in your user page Raayaan9911 (talk) 13:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I did, but I just saw it and wanted it, and user boxes isn't copyright Bebo12321 - Talk 13:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bebo12321 you claim to use, Other Users will warn you on your user talk page and revert your edits! Raayaan9911 (talk) 13:08, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody did… and userboxes are ON WIKIPEDIA and not copyright……….. Bebo12321 - Talk 13:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CFA I leave message on other user talk page Raayaan9911 (talk) 13:15, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) Raayaan9911, every edit you publish on Wikipedia is released on two free licenses, so you do not hold any copyright. Others are free to copy and adapt your work. Hopefully you can get excited, as many of us are, about your contributions to freely-available knowledge and content. Please do not edit Bebo's user page anymore. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers Please Compare these My User Page and Their User Page see who is copyright violation Raayaan9911 (talk) 13:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is a lot different, can I say that, I’m a Muslim? And I support alhilal? And I’m from Saudi arabia? Case closed (I hope).. Bebo12321 - Talk 13:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bebo12321 you're Muslim and you're support al hilal, please do not copy my user page again Raayaan9911 (talk) 13:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even if they were identical, there would be no copyright violation. If you're looking to publish material and retain your copyright, it will have to be somewhere other than Wikipedia. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers Before Copying My User Page content they Always Leave me message before copy and paste it in their user page Raayaan9911 (talk) 13:47, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Raayaan9911 I don't message you. Please don't say anything about my user page, My user page is my user page, your user page is your user page, you do not have anything into my user page… Bebo12321 - Talk 13:48, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bebo12321 Future you repeat copying my user page without permission from copyright holder can lead to copyright violation, Please Ask me before copy it Raayaan9911 (talk) 14:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See what User:Firefangledfeathers said then talk to me… …. It isn't copyright Bebo12321 - Talk 14:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problem for an AFD

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Hello, I'm trying to nominate an article for an AFD but I can't do it, it's weird and I don't understand anything, you can look at my contribution log to see what I did about it, and don't hesitate to explain it to me so that I can understand. Thanks SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 00:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SparklingBlueMoon: Hi, yeah, it's because there's a bunch of steps that have to be done when nominating an article for deletion manually. You can follow the steps at WP:AFDHOWTO, but I'd recommend installing Twinkle (an option in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets) which allows you to do it semi-automatically (click the "TW" dropdown on the article you wish to nominate and then click "XfD" once installed). Wcquidditch has sorted it out for you this time. Happy editing, C F A 💬 17:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CFA Okay, thanks for your reply and the advice. Happy editing to you too. SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 17:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Improving score of Heat 2 page

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Hi CFA,

I've made many revisions to Heat 2 and was hoping to get your input as to how to get it to above a C grade on the content scale.

Thank you. Iheartmylibrary22 (talk) 05:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Iheartmylibrary22: Great job on the article. You can request an independent reassessment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment#Requesting an assessment or check out the B-class criteria yourself at WP:BCLASS. Have you considered nominating the article for DYK to have it featured on the Main page? C F A 💬 17:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Josphyne (12:40, 24 August 2024)

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Thank you very much, I am happy to be on board and looking forward to contributing --Josphyne (talk) 12:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Josphyne: Let me know if you have any questions! Happy editing, C F A 💬 17:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Daniel Gyebi on 2024 FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup squads (03:52, 25 August 2024)

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This is my first, don't know how to go about updating the squads I want to create a new table for a team's squad. Pls help --Daniel Gyebi (talk) 03:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel Gyebi: Welcome to Wikipedia! Sorry, I'm not very familiar with football article formatting so I won't be of much help here. You should try asking at the Teahouse or at WikiProject Football. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing, C F A 💬 17:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Verg23 (13:46, 25 August 2024)

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Hello, can I create an account for my class? --Verg23 (talk) 13:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Verg23: Welcome to Wikipedia! Yes, you can, though I am not familiar with the process. You may wish to check out Wikipedia:Education program/Educators. Consider leaving a post at the Education noticeboard where someone involved with the project will help you (pinging User:Ian (Wiki Ed) and User:LiAnna (Wiki Ed)). Happy editing, C F A 💬 17:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MALIK NAVEED79 (18:29, 25 August 2024)

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Kindly tell me how my article. Will be visible to the public when they search on google --MALIK NAVEED79 (talk) 18:29, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MALIK NAVEED79: Welcome to Wikipedia. You haven't actually created an article — you have just created your user page. I have moved it to Draft:The Beacon of Dawah where you can work on it and submit it for review to become an article. Happy editing, C F A 💬 19:20, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 35, 2024)

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Director Sergio Leone (right) and actor Enzo Santaniello on the set of the film
Hello, CFA. The article for improvement of the week is:

Once Upon a Time in the West

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Keygen • Social experiment


Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations


Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

Draft Declined

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Thank you for reviewing my article Draft:Sant Isher Singh.

I have used books, videos, reliable Indian sources, websites etc... but this was still declined. Please can you elaborate on what was missing from your side so I can see how to improve. I've seen 100,000 more Wikipedia pages without any of these sources but they've had no issues with approval. Jattlife121 (talk) 12:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft Declined :Pierre_Chandon

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Hi,

Thank you for reviewing the article Draft:Pierre_Chandon. May I ask for advise about how to improve and publish this biography please? Thank you.

Best regards, 152.65.210.50 (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol September 2024 Backlog drive

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Straight-line mechanism

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Compound eccentric mechanisms with elliptical motion: not mentioned in source Hi, You have criticised a section of the article but left most of it intact. What is the actual problem? You don't like MultiFAZE? It is not a trademark, just a convenient acronym for an unwieldy descriptive name. It can be found in the source that is given. The source, a patent, is reliable evidence of the existence of the invention as an idea, and the Stiller-Smith engine is reliable evidence of the invention in a physical machine. That's two sources. Hope that clarifies things. Bryllig (talk) 19:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-35

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please Review Draft:Bader Jamous

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hi @CFA I made the required modifications by deleting the peacock phrases and adding reliable sources. Also, the political figure has a page in the Arabic version.

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%B1_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3 D7bib (talk) 10:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@D7bib: Hi, I don't do re-reviews, but I can tell you that there are still quite a few problems with the draft. Sentences like His efforts were crucial in maintaining the continuity of education for Syrian children affected by the war. and Under his leadership, the coalition made significant strides in gaining international recognition and support. are purely promotional and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. They sound AI-generated to me. The majority of the article is still uncited. Where did that information come from? Also, why do you have quotation marks around paragraphs? Was this copied from somewhere? C F A 💬 14:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will try to work on everything you mentioned to me. D7bib (talk) 15:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
please @CFA see the draft
Re-editing content in accordance with Wikipedia style, with new references added for each piece of information.
thank you D7bib (talk) 19:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

design wikipage Stephan van Erp

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Dear CFA, I'm trying to help out profressor Stephan van Erp who is stuck in his design of a wikipage for himself. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Stephan_van_Erp) The comments we get are a bit abstract for us. Could you please clarify what exactly is wrong? There are some references to his official university webpage and to publishers, so there are way to check the facts mentioned. Have they been included in the wrong format, perhaps? It's not exactly clear what we're doing wrong here? Please help? We're absolute wiki-noobs. Thanks! Glactphagos Glactphagos (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"This request has succeeded" at redirects

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Hello! Just a simple question - I notice you're able to "succeed" requests at AfC/redirects (with a dark green box), but I have found no mention of what that means beyond "accepted" (light green box). Is there a difference? Cheers. LR.127 (talk) 19:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LR.127: Hi, it's an option under "Close" if you're using User:Eejit43/scripts/afcrc-helper. I use it whenever I end up creating the redirect manually (e.g. if there's a better target than what was suggested) because using "Accept" attempts to create the redirect automatically. Happy editing, C F A 💬 20:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question about GDEV article (Anton)

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Dear CFA, could you please be so kind to advice me what I have to do with my GDEV draft article? What exactly moments I have to fix to finally make our article on air? :) 37.252.83.181 (talk) 22:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]