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Fair use image

It’s public domain, I decided to do that. See Template:Not actually fair use. Kierandude (talk) 13:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And also see File:Battle of Site LB-1.png. I added the template just so you know. Kierandude (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might want to take a look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is Not and perhaps Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors for reference. You seem to have mistaken Wikipedia for some kind of free web host where you can work on your "fiction". As posted on your user talk page, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Kierandude and asked a Wikipdia administrator to take a look at your contributions and assess them. You're welcome to participate in that discussion if you want to clarify things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nori Bunasawa

Hi, Following on from the deletion of this article at AfD [1], just wondering if you were aware that user DN27ND has recreated the article in their sandbox. My assumption is that that this wouldn't necessarily be contrary to policy (e.g. if the user was going to rework the article) but in this case the user had of course been banned from editing the previous article. Not sure if there is an issue here, but copying in user:Star Mississippi who dispensed the previous block. Axad12 (talk) 13:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Axad12: I did notice the draft. It seems to be pretty much the same thing that was deleted per AfD with a few new sources added (none of which seem to address the issues raised in the AfD, though). Since I'm not an admin, I don't know how the page-block for "Nori Bunasawa" applies in this case, but the other concerns about COI, SPI and lack of Wikipedia notability would still seem to be pertinent. I guess as long as the creator doesn't try to move the sandbox back to the mainspace, then perhaps they can continue trying to improve it since a page-block isn't necessarily a WP:TOPICBAN. If they do try to move it back, though, it probably would be eligible for speedy deletion per WP:G4 unless it's completely different. In addition, any attempt to move the page back the mainspace themselves probably would lead to further sanction. Such an attempt could be considered WP:GAMING since they would probably need to do so under a different article name or using a different user account (which would be a problem per WP:SOCK or WP:MEAT). If the user sandbox draft they're currently working on eventually becomes such an improvement over what was deleted, they probably would need to first request their page-block be rescinded and then next (maybe) make a WP:DRV for a re-assessment of the AfD. They would also likely need to submit their draft to AfC for review, and not try to self-review like they did before. The creator never commented in the ANI dicussion about their behavior, but they were notified of it. I'd imagine any repeat of that behavior would lead to an administrator quickly stepping in and putting an end to it once and for all. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, those are broadly speaking my own thoughts too. The draft actually seems to have been significantly reworked since my previous post (although I've not looked at whether that reworking changes much in the broader sense).

I'd like to assume good faith here, however the way the article was previously introduced to mainspace does not inspire confidence. Hopefully the editor has taken on board that there was a strong community consensus against many aspects in relation to that article (and their maverick approach to notability and sourcing) and will try to play things by the book from here on. As you say, at this point that is their only chance of achieving what they are trying to do.

Thanks for your thoughts... Axad12 (talk) 06:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I say reworked, but perhaps more accurate to say that a shorter (and better looking) version exists here: [2]. Axad12 (talk) 06:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The version you linked to above is definitely shorter and filled with less fluff, but it seems to be about another person. Even with respect to that draft, though, the main argument for Wikipedia notability seems to be WP:INHERITED. Whether that draft gets submitted to AfC remains to be see, but at least that individual appears to have been a university president, won multiple medals at World Judo Championships from 1967 to 1973, and also received commendation from the Japanese government which seems way more important in terms of Wikipedia notability that who his students might've been. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, apologies. A very silly mistake on my part.

I was too tied up with the idea that the editor was an SPA, and had forgotten his previous comment that he had intended to create further articles for other obscure individuals whom he has contacted personally in an attempt to be their Wikipedia biographer. (Can't find the diff for that comment, but I'm sure you recall it).

We shall have to see how things progress... Axad12 (talk) 08:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry digging out and catching up from some time away. Please let me know if any action is still needed on my end. Star Mississippi 11:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Star Mississippi. The draft article is still sitting in the user's sandbox. If they attempt to implement it into mainspace then either myself of Marchjuly will be in touch.

Many thanks. Axad12 (talk) 12:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, thanks. Will respond as soon as I'm able given some travel. Star Mississippi 12:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kristof Nel (1a).jpg

Hi. Please could you kindly explain to me why the above was deleted? it was tagged and deleted quickly at night (I am on UK time) so I cannot examine the filepage for faults. Was there something wrong with the photo, or the source, or the markup, or was something missing from the page? I have realised that the image may have had some writing down one side, but I can crop off that writing and re-upload, if required. Or would it be OK if I create a new image file page with a different image of the same man? I have created many of these non-free file pages, and so far there has rarely been any problem. Storye book (talk) 09:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update. I have now uploaded a different image of the same man, on a new filepage: File:Kristof Nel (3a).jpg. But I would still like to know what was wrong with the previous one. Storye book (talk) 09:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The deleted file was sourced/attributed to Getty Images and such images are pretty much never allowed per WP:F7 and item 7 of WP:NFC#UUI. The administrator who deleted the file is named Fastily and you can ask them about the image if you feel it was deleted in error. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know. Storye book (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]