Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blerta Shala

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The result was redirect to List of Kosovo women's international footballers. Clear consensus that GNG is not met, which is the standard applied nowadays (NFOOTBALL having been phased out). I have redirected so the content is still available behind the redirect should anyone want to merge it somewhere. Daniel (talk) 06:10, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blerta Shala[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:30, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Kosovo. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:30, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - whilst I agree that most articles should meet GNG, I don't think someone with 22 caps for their national team is likely to not meet this threshold. Individual footballers quite often get minimal press coverage (especially women), but they are at least mentioned in Eurosport, SofaScore, and ESPN as well as news sources: [1], [2], [3]. Whilst this doesn't show WP:SIGCOV, I suspect if I had access to Kosovan sources I'd find a lot more about the player. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:38, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Soccer players must show notability per WP:GNG as WP:NFOOTBALL has been phased out. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:04, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:03, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Whilst I agree with Lee that COMMONSENSE applies to footballers, respectfully I don't think to does to Kosovan women footballers. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:57, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - can't find anything to justify keeping the article but I did find out from Bota Sot and Top Sporti that she was voted as the best Kosovan footballer of 2020. Albinfo has a brief quote from her. Maybe someone can find more detail about why she was the best player of 2020 otherwise we may need to look at redirecting to List of Kosovo women's international footballers for the time being... Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:26, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A search in the major Kosovan newspapers Kosova Press, Lajmi, Telegrafi, KohaNet, Kosova Sot, Kosova Press, Shkabaj, and Presheva returned her name in some lists, single-sentence mentions in routine match recaps, and a few quotes from her. Doesn't meet GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 20:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:53, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak keep~~ per WP:BASIC, with special consideration in light of the Kosovan diaspora situation. Blerta Shala is one of the top women football players in Kosovo. The Football Federation of Kosovo awarded her "best football player of the year" in the Kosovo Women's Football League in 2020, resulting in widespread international media coverage, such as this Gazeta InFokus article, "Blerta Shala is declared the best football player of Kosovo for 2020", and many, many others like it across Kosovo, Albania, and Macedonia. While much of the coverage is not as in-depth as we might hope, a few of the articles do focus on Blerta Shala herself, and we learn many things, including the fact that she led her club FFK Mitrovica to win the Kosovo Cup championship title during the 2019/2020 season, and that she played with FFK Mitrovica in the Women's Champions League. The 2017 article in Albinfo.ch, an Internet news site for the Albanian community in Switzerland, discusses Shala's situation as a player who originally joined the Albania women's national football team as well as FC Zürich, but jumped at the chance to play for the new Kosovo women's national football team when it formed and debuted in 2017. The international match reports may not count toward notability, but in aggregate they paint a picture of a new team that struggled to get off the ground at first, and so the one goal Shala managed to score in a grueling match against Malta when they lost 3–1, for example, seems that much more significant. There is also coverage about her successful start to the 2017/2018 season with FFK Hajvalia, which resulted in her winning a distinguished athlete of the year award from the Municipality of Pristina, as well as a goal scored against Sporting CP of Lisbon in the Women's Champions League. In any case, if you want to learn more about Shala, please read the expanded and updated page on Blerta Shala...and for additional background, check out the most in-depth feature article available about her, which is not cited in the current article because it looks like a blog, here: "Blerta Shala, Kosovo football star" (in Kryelajmi). Cielquiparle (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kryelajmi claims to be an online newspaper so may well be a valid and reliable source. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:20, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Per Lee Vilenski and Cielquiparle. Clearly significant international capped figure in Kosovan football with ongoing career. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 20:50, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - sorry, but I struggle to identify the current coverage as being of enough quality to give the subject notability. --Angelo (talk) 15:09, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Lee Vilenski and Cielquiparle have point. Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sorry, I'm just not seeing it. We no longer give notability to players based on team appearances (and I don't think this is significant enough that we need apply IAR), and looking at the coverage shown by Cielquiparle (besides the Kryelajmi article which looks like a blog), I see an extremely short four sentence article, and an article that briefly discusses Shala (from google translate: The two national team selectors, Afërdita Fazlija and Amir Grima, also agreed that it was a psychologically tense match with many emotions, taking as a basis that the girls who are from Kosovo playing for Albania and the girls from Kosovo were facing each other. Blerta Shala and Antigona Behluli - Gjilanas Antigona Behluli and Blerta Shala have been transferred from Kosovar football to FC Zürich in Switzerland two months ago. Both were among those 6 unfortunate girls, who were once part of the Albanian national team, and due to the lack of completion of the documentation, they were not given permission to represent Kosovo in this match. After being accepted by FIFA, without any hesitation they had accepted the invitation for the Kosovo national team, where they had held the exercises.) That just doesn't appear like enough to pass WP:GNG. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:00, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per JoelleJay, Angelo and others. The available coverage is not substantial enough to establish notability. Avilich (talk) 23:37, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Since no one is willing to make a "Kosovo exception" in light of the state of the media (and women's football) in a country that has had to rebuild following war and diaspora... I am changing my !vote but would just like to ask for some kind of WP:ATD, because I've now added information that can be used on other pages. (It's not as straightforward as merging it all to the Kosovo women's national football team page, as the award was for the club performance, etc.) Is my only best option now to try to get a refund after the fact? Or is there any way to just get this moved to DRAFT, with the understanding that it can/should get deleted as soon as the multi-directional merge is complete? Cielquiparle (talk) 23:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.