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Category:Back at the Barnyard

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Actually, Back at the Barnyard is the name of the television series based on the film, so Barnyard would be the correct title. ApuNahasapeemapetilon1989 (talk) 22:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. (Oinkers42) (talk) 04:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Eyewear people

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Mason (talk) 21:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It is unclear what this is supposed to be. Actual contents are mostly businesspeople that sell eyewear. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Categories by city in Burundi

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on Category:People by city in Burundi; delete Category:Categories by city in Burundi. Anyone wishing to pursue the merger of Category:People by city in Burundi is welcome to create a new discussion. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this category is a redundant layer. Mason (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:18th-century Wallachian poets

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 15#Category:18th-century Wallachian poets

Category:Women who experienced pregnancy loss

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 15#Category:Women who experienced pregnancy loss

Category:Battles of the War of 1812 by state

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. This is a sprawling discussion, but without any policy/guideline to supplement the WP:1AM opposition (and/or discount the proponents' arguments), it would be supervoting to close as anything but in favor of the 3–1 majority. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. See also recent precedents, e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 24#Battles by location in Germany. NLeeuw (talk) 17:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy ping @Marcocapelle follow-up FYI. NLeeuw (talk) 17:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While one may invent a personal rule that more than 200 entries is 'long', such a numbers rule is nowhere found in the WP rules for considering ease of navigation (creating categories). Instead of exampling the tiny state (Delaware) that had exactly one battle in the War of 1812, one should example the impact to other, more consequential, states and see the negative impact there to their parent categories and thus the true negative impact of this proposal. Consider New York state: Category:Battles of the War of 1812 in New York (state) with 12 articles. If this category were to be deleted, that means all 12 articles would be placed directly into the parent Category:New York (state) in the War of 1812 and alphabetically mixed into these articles: Henry Eckford (shipbuilder), Pike's Cantonment Site, Plattsburgh Bay, Sackets Harbor, New York and Veteran Corps of Artillery. Likewise, these 12 articles would be placed directly into Category:Battles in New York (state) and alphabetically mixed into its 14 existing articles on various other battles that occurred into New York state. Now consider the WP reader who is using categories and who wants to see any or all articles on War of 1812 battles in New York state. Getting to Category:Battles in New York (state), the reader must open each of the then 28 articles to discover what they want. And similarly with other consequential states. And since this proposal is to completely put all 79 battles into Category:Battles of the War of 1812 and thus eliminate their geographic location as battles of the War of 1812, it just gets worse and worse. Geography is important to history; it is not to be disregarded and discarded as un- tasty or otherwise in the way. There is no way this proposal can even be under consideration as helpful to the user navigation: it directly negates and destroys the category navigation purposes and structures of WP. The purpose of WP categories is to make things easier for readers, not more difficult, not just following a misreading of some other editors' discussions.

Next, what is being proposed here is exactly what I wrote: eliminate the existing category structure that allows readers to quickly find all the battles of 1812 in New York State in one location (Category:Battles of the War of 1812 in New York (state)) without having to wade through and open n-number of extraneous articles just to find what they want--not to force each reader to make connections by taking information from one category Category:Military history of New York (state) and mindfully merging it with information from another category Category:Battles of the War of 1812. Such is the very purpose (and always has been) of categories (doing something once so each reader with each read does not have to do so), something the proposal would destroy by deleting Category:Battles of the War of 1812 in New York (state) and all similar categories--for no valid reader-oriented reason. If flat lists are wanted, then the WP solution is to create simple list articles--simple to do. The job of editors is NOT to presume they know how readers will look for information and limit WP to provide for that single presumption, but to provide various means that various readers of various thoughts and tastes may easily find what they want. This is what WP has always tried to do. Hmains (talk) 00:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about you help me rewrite Timeline of the War of 1812? I've merged all the battles into it, and have begun to integrate them and their descriptions into the existing tables. The new columns Theater and Notes allow us to state on which front or in which domain an event or battle took place, while the Notes allow us to give a bit more detail (such as location, intentions, results, losses etc.). Readers could easily find where a battle took place if we fill out these tables completely, especially by using the sort buttons. This overview will be able to do everything better than the elaborate subdivision of battles by location in sub-sub-sub-categories ever could. NLeeuw (talk) 15:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ethnic or national descents

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: all subcategories in Category:People by descent are named "by descent", there is no reason to name these categories differently. Aldij (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Drake & Josh video games

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 22#Category:Drake & Josh video games

Category:People associated with the Institute for Cultural Research

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:DEFINING. I looked at four articles in this category. None mentioned The Institute for Cultural Research. Daask (talk) 14:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cornish people of Irish descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Irish people in Great Britain is already in the categories 'Irish diaspora in the United Kingdom' and 'British people of Irish descent'. Aldij (talk) 14:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chief Ministers of Anguilla

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Up until 2019 the office was known as Chief Minister of Anguilla, but the Anguilla Constitution (Amendment) Order 2019 renamed the position as Premier. Aldij (talk) 12:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of foods by nationality

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 15#Category:Lists of foods by nationality

Category:Baptist Bible College & Seminary alumni

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 member as a notable alumnus. I have listed him along with 2 faculty members in the article Clarks Summit University. – Fayenatic London 11:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mistresses of Louis Philippe II, Duke of Orléans

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only sovereigns have mistresses categories, even then when there sufficient enough to warrent it. Only two articles in this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mistresses of Frederick, Prince of Wales

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only sovereigns have categories for mistresses. In any case, there are only two articles (confirmed mistresses) in this category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Ok, it is a very small category, but it's news to me that only sovereigns have categories for mistresses. Where is Wikipedia policy on this? PatGallacher (talk) 13:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PatGallacher, it's just an observation, I wasn't stating any rule. Every such category belongs to a sovereign of a nation except for two, both of which are small (only two articles each). I personally think these particular categories (for mistresses) should be limited to sovereigns who were known for having many mistresses. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We do have mistresses of John F. Kennedy, Julius Caesar and Benito Mussolini. PatGallacher (talk) 16:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PatGallacher, sorry I meant for royalty. We can't create categories for any male royal known to keep mistresses. Its best to keep royal mistresses categories for specific royals to sovereigns while the rest can be sorted into Category:Mistresses of British royalty. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fast & Furious lists

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge to Category:Fast & Furious, Category:American film-related lists, and Category:NBCUniversal-related lists. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No need for a cat that has two articles. It can be safely upmerged and individual articles can be merged up to any other relevant cats. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to relevant categories the nominator's reasoning makes logical sense. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Books by Ivar Hippe

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation. There's no epon parent category and only one book in here. Mason (talk) 04:55, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aerial operations and battles of World War II involving the Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 P, 0 C. Triple upmerge for now. NLeeuw (talk) 04:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Futurist photography

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's only one person in this entire category tree. The parent category (Futurist photography) only contains this category. Mason (talk) 02:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Russian Futurist composers

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duel merge for now. this category is really narrow and the parent category (Futurist composers ) isn't in need to diffusion yet. Mason (talk) 02:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Modernist women composers

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Narrow category at the intersection of occupation, gender, and specific movement. The only person in the category is already in the right parent categories Mason (talk) 02:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Climate change filmmakers

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Narrow intersection Mason (talk) 02:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:21st-century Polish cinematographers

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The norm has been that modern professions like modeling, cinematographers, etc aren't diffused by century. Mason (talk) 02:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Landforms of Akmola Region

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:28, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: So many redundant categories made (mostly) by the same user. Mason (talk) 00:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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