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Category:1920s Mexican film stubs

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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. As always, stub categories are not free for just anybody to create willy-nilly, and have to have around 60 articles before they can be created -- but there are just six articles here, and a full AWB comparison between Category:Mexican films and Category:1920s film stubs failed to find 54 more. Bearcat (talk) 22:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:USOPC profile template using accessdate parameter

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Nominator's rationale: Parameter |accessdate= of Template:USOPC profile stopped being used together with the category in Special:Diff/1168233416. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As the creator of the category, I agree with deleting it. My apologies for not requesting a speedy deletion when I removed this tracking category from the template. -- Zyxw (talk) 02:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians in Bombay Beach, California

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Nominator's rationale: Bombay Beach, California has only a few hundred inhabitants, and apparently none of them edit Wikipedia (since the category holds no users). jlwoodwa (talk) 20:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sofascore template using numeric ID

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Nominator's rationale: The Template:Sofascore has stopped using this category in Special:Diff/1197330180. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As the person who removed this tracking category from the template, I agree with deleting it. My apologies for not requesting a deletion at that time. -- Zyxw (talk) 02:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Female-fronted musical groups

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Nominator's rationale: Because:
  • Doesn't work when considering bands with a mix of male and female vocalists such as Fleetwood Mac and Svalbard, it would be better to just put "mixed gender bands" and "all female bands". Also places undue weight and scrutiny on women in (the) band/s, potentially/usually against their wishes
  • I don't think that being "female" is an inherent musical characteristic. It is not a genre, and I feel that it reduces/ghettoizes frontwomen in bands are based on/to their sex rather than their music (not to mention the use of "front"). There are traits in music that can be defined as feminine and masculine (which are available to musicians of ALL genders), which is something you can infer from listening and evaluate. being a woman is literally as surface level as you can get in musical evaluation. plus screaming growling singing etc is not limited to one gender.
  • Listed here are a few articles by reliable sources, written/featuring commentators and musicians, discussing the problem of definining music by gender/using the term "female fronted".

Discuss, I guess. Chchcheckit (talk) 20:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also: it categorizes a thousand bands into one thing when they don't sound alike or have much in common besides being women. "women heavy metal singers" is fine, but this is just hasty generalization Chchcheckit (talk) 21:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Royal Belgian Football Association player template using non-numeric ID

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Nominator's rationale: Usage of this category was removed from Template:Royal Belgian Football Association player in Special:Diff/1125288254. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As the creator of the category, I agree with deleting it. My apologies for not requesting a speedy deletion when I removed this tracking category from the template. -- Zyxw (talk) 02:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Countries in Europe by region

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Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted after discussion as seen here Moxy🍁 19:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Western European countries

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Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted after discussion as seen here Moxy🍁 19:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A very nice illustration that this is very fuzzy is Wikipedia itself (although not a reliable source) that says that Germany is in central Europe rather than western Europe, and the Netherlands in northwestern Europe rather than in western Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United States Army Air Forces officer trainees

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Nominator's rationale: Non defining category. These are effectively people who didn't become officers Mason (talk) 18:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, they served in the Army Air Forces, but were neither officers nor enlisted. The recommended parent cat is essentially a container cat with subcats only. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please review what defining mean. @FieldMarine (It'll help you make better counter arguments). They may indeed be United States Army Air Forces officer trainees (a.k.a. neither officers nor enlisted), but that's not how these people are regularly described. Mason (talk) 19:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They cat description summarizes what the cat represents, and that is reflected in how they are described in the articles with the cat. There are many types of officer trainees depending on what program of entry they sign up for (ROTC, OCS, Aviation Cadet, etc.) but as a whole, the group is a distinct classification in the U.S. military. Of note, in the case of Aviation Cadet, they often held the rank for extended period of time, as did Midshipmen in the Navy. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 19:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rugby Africa Cup

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Nominator's rationale: There is a speedy request to move Category:Africa Cup to Category:Rugby Africa Cup. To preserve the category history the newly created category needs to be deleted and the speedy move actioned. Bcp67 (talk) 17:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Siemiatycze

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Nominator's rationale: Small categories (only one person in the people category and only two in the politicians category) for a small (pop. 14K) town. As always, this would be fine if there were a lot more people from Siemiatycze to file in it than this, but every town does not automatically need or get one of these the moment just a couple of people with Wikipedia articles have been from there -- and since we already have the county-level category, which only has eight people in it and thus isn't in any desperate need of diffusion, there's no significant loss of context in just using that instead. Bearcat (talk) 15:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:ESPN FC template using numeric ID

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Nominator's rationale: Template:ESPN FC stopped using this category in Special:Diff/886229099. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As the creator of the category, I agree with deleting it. My apologies for not requesting a speedy deletion when I removed this tracking category from the template. -- Zyxw (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:FootballDatabase.eu template using non-numeric ID

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Nominator's rationale: Template:FootballDatabase.eu stopped using this category for tracking in 2022, see Special:Diff/1125919207. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion § C4 – unused maintenance categories. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As the creator of the category, I agree with deleting it. My apologies for not requesting a speedy deletion when I removed this tracking category from the template. -- Zyxw (talk) 02:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Princes of Venice

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Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, neither for the vice roy of Kingdom of Italy (Napoleonic) neither for the claimed head of the former royal family of Italy. And these two articles is all there is in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kevin Costner albums

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Nominator's rationale: There has only been one item in this category for the last sixteen years. Overcategorization. Nicholas0 (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous people

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Nominator's rationale: rename for clarification. Also, I have just added this to the tree of Category:Mammal breeds. An alternative could be to upmerge the category to Category:Mammal breeds and Category:Indigenous culture. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion. What about Breeds/Mammal breeds domesticated by Indigenous people? The current name and the proposal both sound really awkward to me. Mason (talk) 19:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Philippine Sports Commission

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Nominator's rationale: Unneeded eponymous category that contains nothing apart from the main article. Paul_012 (talk) 04:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Update: In light of the population of the category since the nomination, I'm willing to withdraw my nomination (though it should continue as there has also been another delete !vote). --Paul_012 (talk) 12:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose At the time of nominate, indeed the category contained only the eponymous article. I have since added applicable entries to the category. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 06:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Multiple citizenship

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Option A: rename Category:Multiple citizenship to Category:Multiple nationality.
OR: option B: rename Category:People with multiple nationality to Category:People with multiple citizenship.
Rationale: consistency. Until other arguments weigh in, option B is the preferred option per article title Multiple citizenship. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Asian conservative liberals

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Nominator's rationale: These categories are extremely vague. An extremely CFD on classically similar categories have been purged Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_3#Classical_liberals Mason (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:LGBT men artists

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Nominator's rationale: Moving to [full]. Norm is "Male artists". For the record, the speedy rename was supported by the category creator. @MikutoH and Marcocapelle: discussants. Mason (talk) 12:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Do you have any sources for the claim that calling transgender men "male" could be slightly confusing or ambiguous? And can you please doublecheck that with a person or source you trust because I believe that is incorrect. Polygnotus (talk) 13:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have already said that the terms female and male are often associated with sex assigned at birth and given a source for that. And no, I am not going to come up with unverifiable information like you do, that is entirely against the spirit of Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: So, in summary: you wrote something that isn't true (Calling transgender men "male" could be slightly awkward), I tried to help you by pointing it out, then you changed it to two other claims that are also not true ("Calling transgender men "male" could be slightly confusing" and "Calling transgender men "male" could be slightly ambiguous") and now you made a new claim (I have already said that the terms female and male are often associated with sex assigned at birth and given a source for that.) that also isn't true (that source does not support that claim). You are perhaps misremembering the part where it says: Youth reported their sex assigned at birth by answering: “What is your sex?” Response options were female or male. Although this question does not refer to sex assigned at birth specifically, several studies have found that TGD youth are likely to understand “sex” to be sex assigned at birth rather than gender identity (the source says that the word "sex" is understood to mean sex assigned at birth rather than gender identity, not that the words "male" and "female" are associated with sex assigned at birth). I have asked you to provide a source for your claims that calling transgender men "male" could be slightly confusing or ambiguous and in response you wrote: I am not going to come up with unverifiable information like you do. That does not make sense. Polygnotus (talk) 14:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MikutoH: did vote but on the talkpage, not here. I have left a message on their talkpage asking them to vote here. Polygnotus (talk) 17:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I changed my mind and I'm neutral now. No one answered me: is the adjective women grammatical? Two editors said male exclude trans men. So what's the best?
It looks like more an undebated Wikipedia convention. --MikutoH talk! 22:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Literary critics by ethnicity

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to have a single category isolated like this. Mason (talk) 01:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I created the category because I needed a parent category for Category:Aromanian literary critics. Now it is getting nominated for deletion. Sooner or later someone editing in the Kurdish topic area (for example) will also need this category (unless no Kurdish literary critics have ever existed). They'll create the category and again it will have one single member and find itself here. What is the sense of this? Just leave the category and it will enlarge with time. There is no benefit from this. Super Ψ Dro 09:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now there's another category. Super Ψ Dro 09:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't make categories with one page in them. Creating Kurdish literary critics isn't helpful unless you populate it. Mason (talk) 14:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you requesting me that I do not create appropriate categories? There must surely be other Kurdish literary critics, this is an ethnic group of around 40 million people. It is not helpful to expect one user to bother addressing arbitrary nitpicks in obscure technical areas of Wikipedia rather than letting the categories naturally grow. Deleting the categories is helpful to exactly zero readers. Super Ψ Dro 16:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have spent 20 minutes looking through Kurdish writer biographies to find literary critics. The category now has 5 people. There were some other biographies who were described as "critics" which were probably fit for the category but didn't want to risk it because I am not an expert on Kurdish topics. It should have been someone who was, rather than me pushed by an useless nomination, that populated the category.
Regarding Aromanians I am the author of dozens of Aromanian biographies in Wikipedia. I will eventually get my way to other Aromanian literary critics and use the category. I wouldn't have created the category if I didn't know it'd be included into several biographies in the future. The category will exist in some years anyway and deleting it right now is only to fullfill a false sense of order. I ask not to be pushed into rushing new articles just for the sake of this nomination. This is not the purpose of volunteering at Wikipedia. Super Ψ Dro 17:13, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be under Category:Literary critics by language if it concerns an ethnolinguistic group this is your own opinion. We have many categories of profession and ethnicity. Language and ethnicity are not the same, the latter categories are necessary for stateless groups. In some of the categories at Category:Literary critics by language, there are people not belonging to the ethnic groups that speak those languages. For example at Category:Literary critics of Arabic there are Luc-Willy Deheuvels and Emilio García Gómez. Super Ψ Dro 16:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


July 27

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Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Prussia in Congress Poland

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category is extremely narrow, has only one person in it, and neither of these nations presently exist. Mason (talk) 23:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire) personnel

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 4#Category:Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire) personnel


Category:19th-century Uzbekistani people by occupation

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one occupation in here, and it seems unlikely that this category will be needed anytime soon. Mason (talk) 22:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video games about crime

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 4#Category:Video games about crime

Category:Video games about the military

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Video games about the military to Category:Military and war video games
Nominator's rationale: This category is now a subcategory of Category:Video games by narrative genre. For the sake of consistency with other subcats in this category, it should be renamed with the subject up front instead of "Video games about...". Besides, this is new name would just roll off the tongue better IMO. AHI-3000 (talk) 00:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Comedy video games

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As per Comedy in video games there is no proof that a "comedy video game" genre actually exists, and while there are categories for "parody" or "satire", that is more self-evident. Comedy comes in numerous forms, making the separation between comedic and non-comedic unclear (I could call Garry's Mod a "comedy" game even if it is all unintentional). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. What about licensed video game adaptations of comedy movies and shows? Category:Parody video games and Category:Satirical video games have significant overlap with this category, I'd argue many of the games listed here could be categorized as comedy games, what makes these subcategories more legit than the parent category? AHI-3000 (talk) 07:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Parody and satire might actually merit a merge into each other, but they are indicative of a clear attempt to mock the original source material which is quickly evident. McPixel is obviously a parody of MacGuyver. Meanwhile, comedic video games are rarely classified as such. I don't see anyone calling Drakengard 3 a comedy game despite in my experience being heavily humorous, people classify it as an action game. Comedy and parody/satire are not the same. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Google search for "comedy video games".
Not sure how many of these websites are considered to be reliable sources according to Wikipedia policies, but for what it's worth there does seem to be a belief that Comedy exists as a narrative genre for video games, akin to Horror, Fantasy or Science Fiction.
Also, please take a look at the "Comedy video games" category. Admittedly, most of the subcategories are for licensed adaptations of various film and TV franchises which everyone agrees are primarily comedic by nature. Games based on comedy movies and shows tend to also be comedic and heavily focused on humor.
And another thing to consider is that there are non-adaptational video game franchises that are known for having a mostly comedic tone. Some notable examples are Borderlands, Destroy All Humans!, Monkey Island, Ratchet & Clank, and Saints Row. And I'm quite certain that there are countless reliable sources which describe these games' focus on humor and satire.
AHI-3000 (talk) 20:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 March 6#Category:Comedy video games, Unlike film and television, "comedy" is not a defining genre of video games—not used academically and not used as a thematic genre in reviews. Elements can be discussed as comedic but games are not discussed as genre classification ("a comedy") the same way they are discussed as "a satire" or "a parody". czar 16:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give a more recent argument than an old discussion from 2017? Can you disprove the examples I gave of the comedic video game series I mentioned, with reviewers and other sources describing their focus on humorous elements? Or the numerous video game adaptations of comedy movies and TV shows? AHI-3000 (talk) 19:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think WP:THREE applies here. Asking people to sort through thousands of google search results isn't a particularly compelling argument. If you think "comedy game" is a real genre, find your best 3 sources that establish that and post them. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, here is a Finnish interview about comedy video games with three developers (discussing e.g. what makes a game comedic and how it relates to interactivity) by Pelit: https://www.pelit.fi/artikkelit/huumoripelit-haastattelut/ --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete. Attempt to revive a deleted category that editors considered non-defining, comedy just appears to be a quirk or an unintentional mishap when it comes to video games. I am also considering that AHI-3000's new "Video games by narrative genre" category to be merged back into "Video games by theme." or at least just remove the parent category "Video games by genre" from that category... QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I agree that there's no evidence that such a genre exists, and this horse has already been beaten before. Looking myself, I can find a few mentions of the idea of it as a category, but not enough to establish that it's a well-defined thing. ― novov (t c) 06:23, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete In a technical sense, a comedy is a story with a happy ending. I understand that the meaning has slipped in popular culture to describe humor. But none of these things are defining features of video games. It leads to an arbitrary category where editors are guessing how much humor needs to be involved before a game can be considered a comedy. It is unverifiable and impractical to maintain. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is inherently meaningless, so there's no such genre, so WP:RSes do not authoritatively define it. It has already been correctly deleted, and it would have failed a proposal, but the dead-horse-beater didn't propose it for a pre-deletion rejection. So it must be deleted now, like everybody above said. "Humorous elements" is meaningless and does not define a genre. Blurting out a Google search is meaningless. This is WP:ILIKEIT WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. — Smuckola(talk) 03:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:National military histories by war

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, after a few earlier closures there are only two subcategories left here and they are quite unrelated, it is highly unlikely that someone would want to navigate from one subcategory to the other. By deleting the category all content still remains part of the tree of Category:Military history by war as appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Members of the Fourth Aliyah

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: disperse, period of 1924-1929 is arbitrary and we have diffused these migrants already by country of origin. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, Marco. That’s not going to happen. This is a category specific to the period of the Fourth Aliyah, which was 5 years. We do not want to merge it into a 20 year period of immigration. Dag21902190 (talk) 07:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • These are not arbitrary periods, you are flexing your ignorance of Israeli history.
    Furthermore, believe it or not, definition of a “member” is “one of the individuals of a group”. The group of individuals who migrated to the Land of Israel during each Aliyah was a “member” of that respective Aliyah. They have been referred to as members of their respective Aliyot since the founding of the state.
    if you want to change the word “member” for “migrant”, you will have to figure out how to change that on each person’s page. But your statement that “member” only refers to the “member of an organization”, is not true. It is your perspective of the word, but not reality.
    I will note that the time you have dedicated to coming after these unique categories, and attempting to disperse them into the ether, piques my interest. You have spent hours attacking Israeli categories and pages, wasting time that could have been used being productive.
    We will not be doing anything to the categories, as that would be denying the reality of each unique Aliyah.
    I’m starting to have serious questions about the moderators of this platform. Everything Israel-related gets attacked non-stop (in an organized fashion), by people like you, who don’t even know what the Aliyot were! Making claims that each Aliyah is an arbitrary time-period is a blatant lie, and your privileges should be investigated. This is bizarre. Dag21902190 (talk) 13:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Furthermore, I find it absolutely fascinating that you nominated the first five Aliyot for dispersal, but left out the Aliyah Bet category. Is it because Aliyah Bet was illegal immigration, and doesn’t make the Jews look good? So you wanted to disperse one through five, and keep just the illegal immigration?
    This entire nomination should be ignored, and the bias you’ve shown by nominating it should come back and bite you. Dag21902190 (talk) 13:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • 1st. Category:Aliyah Bet does not contain immigrants, it is a topic category. So that is something completely different. 2nd. Every of these Aliyahs is not a single group, they concern a process of several years with many separate groups and individuals. Group membership is therefore completely inapplicable here. 3rd. Please stop with personal attacks. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I’m not sure what you don’t understand, and the reason you keep doubling down on a subject you know nothing about is beyond me. Each Aliyah had its own unique movement. The facilitators of those Aliyot knew that they were facilitating the first, second, third, fourth, fifth Aliyah, and then Aliyah Bet. These categories organize the early Zionist immigrants to the land of Israel by the specific Aliyah movements that facilitated their immigration. To deny the benefits of these categories, and continue to gaslight me, is just a disingenuous tactic. I frankly consider the mass nominations of my categories for” deletion” and “merging” as vandalism, and an overreach of your privileges. You are not a victim here, you are the attacker. Dag21902190 (talk) 16:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Only now I notice that you have created Category:Members of Aliyah Bet too. I will nominate this category as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Liz: not by nominator, but by creator of these categories. They have manually moved the articles from "Members" to "Immigrants". That is a waste of effort because the move could have done by a bot if there was consensus for it. I have updated the proposal accordingly. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You should be investigated by Wikipedia for overreach of your editing privileges. You are stalking my page, attempting to merge all of my work into broader categories that don’t differentiate between Aliyot, (which is the entire point of these categories). This is the 12th category of mine that you have vandalized with some sort of banner, and for no good reason other than it relates to Israel. You didn’t like the word “member”, so I changed it to ”immigrant”. Now you’re making a blatantly false claim that each Aliyah is an arbitrary time period. It doesn’t matter to you if you revise history, as long as you prevent a compartmentalized gold-mine of information, like these categories, from existing. You are working hard to prevent any sort of organization that makes it easy to research the early history of Israel. Dag21902190 (talk) 12:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, Marcocapelle, I saw the comment they inserted in your nomination and thought they were the nominator. What is going to happen with all of these "Member" categories that are now empty? Will they be turned into redirects if this proposal goes through? Liz Read! Talk! 20:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I don't see a convincing argument to disperse. Marco points out 5 year periods are arbitrary, but so are centuries. If, as Dag states, there exists a mode of reference that divides the immigrants into 5 periods, and someone may reasonably be taking advantage of that division to differentiate between 2 immigrants from different periods, I don't see any reason to disperse. If Dag just invented this division himself I would agree, but my impression is that this isn't the case. JoeJShmo💌 23:38, 7 July 2024 (UTC) not extended confirmed HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak keep I'm not confident they can be dismissed as arbitrary periods - insofar that distinct push and pull factors during the different periods makes each wave have its own characteristics - but even if arbitrary periods of early immigration, they are well recognised as distinct periods (at least within Jewish scholarship). Culturally, also, the Israeli concept of "returning home" as part of an Aliyah is distinct from immigration. For these reasons, the people who were part of such migration would most likely identify it with the X Aliyah name, not as anything else. So as long as there is a good source saying that an individual moving to (insert era) Palestine did so as part of an Aliyah, I believe it is a valid identifying category. My one is concern, though, that people who may have migrated and aren’t identified as part of an Aliyah may be added to these categories based on timespan alone; manual sorting could be required which (I know from experience) is exhaustive and nigh-impossible. For simplicity and not being technically untrue, I wouldn’t staunchly object to the merge proposals as laid out. Kingsif (talk) 15:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This discussion has been open since June, can it be closed now? Liz Read! Talk! 16:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kaguya-hime

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Category:Hijacked journals

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF. Proposal: listify, where it could be better sourced. Currently this content is not discussed in the eponym article, Hijacked journal, nor in most member artciles, e.g., Sylwan. fgnievinski (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep None of these are reasons for deletion. If it's not discussed in each article, it should be. That individuals are not discussed in the main eponimous article is irrelevant, because they shouldn't be. We mention the first known case, Archive des Sciences as an example, but there's no reason to mention the others. WP:NONDEF also does not apply because journals do not control if they are hijacked or not, but it's very much an important thing to know about a journal. And if you want to have a list, have a list, but that does not make the category irrelevant or useless. Also an important defense for WP:CITEWATCH. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, lots of things can be a "important thing to know" (for whom?) but that does not put WP:NONDEF aside. No objection to listification if someone volunteers for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    for whom? For the reader. If you stumble upon a citation to e.g. Sylwan, it's important to know that Sylwan was hijacked, and that you may not be looking at the real Sylwan but the fake one. Also, per WP:NONDEF
  • a defining characteristic is one that reliable, secondary sources commonly and consistently define, in prose, the subject as having. For example: "Subject is an adjective noun ..." or "Subject, an adjective noun, ...". If such examples are common, each of adjective and noun may be deemed to be "defining" for subject.
  • We have multiple reliable sources describing these journals as hijacked
  • if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead section of an article (determined without regard to whether it is mentioned in the lead), it is probably not defining;
  • If it's not mentioned in the lead, it should be.
  • if the characteristic falls within any of the forms of overcategorization mentioned on this page, it is probably not defining.
  • It doesn't fall into any of them.
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which sources define them as "a hijacked journal"? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See Beall's list, Retraction Watch, ScholarlyOA (before it was itself hijacked), Walailak Journal, Nature, etc... Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Those are sources about the topic of hijacking. The question is about sources about the subjects in the category. Please read WP:NONDEF carefully. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Every one of those sources identify specific journals being hijacked, and how they were hijacked. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      You're missing the gist of NONDEF, so I'll quote:
      A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to in describing the topic, such as the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place.
      It goes on to say:
      • if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead section of an article (determined without regard to whether it is mentioned in the lead), it is probably not defining;
      No Wikipedia article about a hijacked journal start (or should start) saying "Journal X is a hijacked journal". They just happen to be a victim of a scam. Granted, it's nice to know, but it needs to be sourced; a list would be the best place to cite sources, which is not technically possible in a mere category membership. fgnievinski (talk) 03:46, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      No Wikipedia article about a hijacked journal start (or should start) saying "Journal X is a hijacked journal". No, but the lead could (and I would argue, should) end with "The journal was hijacked by <organization>, with a fake website at <fakeurldomain>, and the legitimate site hosted at <realurldomain>".[source]" This is absolutely critical information because otherwise someone looking for e.g. Wulfenia could well end up checking the scam version rather than the legit version. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 07:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and listify per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've added the list from the category to the article Journal hijacking. Regardless of result, the list is there. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a partial list and does not belong in the article, nor does it negate the purpose of the category. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:NBC LX Home affiliates

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Category:Acquired citizenship

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Nominator's rationale: Per previous discussions on "Naturalized citizens". Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Baltic Germans

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I am not sure which way to merge, but current situation makes a mess Estopedist1 (talk) 11:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what I think should happen is it should be merged into "Category:Baltic-German people", than the page should be split into a new catigory called "Category:Lists of Baltic-German German people". the "Category:Baltic-German culture" should be made a subcategory of Baltic-German people. Zyxrq (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Farmers who died by suicide in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 12:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one article and a category with two films. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Models from London by borough

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Nominator's rationale: Merge/Delete per WP:OCLOCATION Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:First women admitted to degrees at Oxford

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While notable interesting, I'd say this is trivial. Perhaps Listify. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Religious leaders from the Roman Kingdom

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Early religion by century

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Category:Dionysus in mythology

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 12:18, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dionysus is a mythological character and so most of the content related to him is related to mythology, but I can understand the point of diffusing all the miscellaneous articles relating to his mythology. The "X in mythology" category name is better used for depictions of real things and concepts in mythology, such as Category:Animals in mythology. The proposed name is based on Category:Mythology of Heracles. MClay1 (talk) 08:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

agree per nom. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of the Khwarazmian Empire

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Category:Bogs, fens and marshes in mythology

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 12:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More encompassing and simpler name. Bogs, fens and marshes are apparently three of the four main types of wetlands, with swamps being the other, and I can't see why that should be excluded. Mythology is a subcategory of folklore. This is currently a small category, but I can see it being expanded, as wetlands are often the subject of folklore. MClay1 (talk) 06:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. Total agreement with nom. :bloodofox: (talk) 08:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dutch people of the Eighty Years' War (Spanish Empire)

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Category:Racially motivated violence against Europeans

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Category:Racially motivated violence against white people in Africa

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Category:Armenian buildings in Azerbaijan

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Category:Games by genre

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Category:Mythology of Perseus

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Category:Greek mythological characters by location

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:13, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: User:Markx121993 appears to have tried to manually rename the category (that he created three years ago) by creating the new name and then manually moving all the contents. The old category then got nominated for speedy deletion for being empty, which I stopped by turning it into a redirect. I propose deleting the target and then doing a proper move so as not to lose the old category's page history. MClay1 (talk) 01:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Participant in the Council of Chalcedon

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 12:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think these should be plural, but I'd like to get someone's opinion who is familiar with these councils Mason (talk) 00:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support pluralizing - no reason for them to be singular (not a topic i edit around, but a hobby interest of mine). ... sawyer * he/they * talk 00:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support These were supposedly church councils with hundreds of participants. No need for singular in the title. Dimadick (talk) 06:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support As the creator of these cats, I support this renaming, it feels more natural. AgisdeSparte (talk) 07:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Togolese women company founders

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There are not enough people in this tree to justify diffusion. Mason (talk) 00:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Togolese businesspeople by industry

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layers Mason (talk) 00:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
neutral: I don't know what the thinking is about these cats, so I'm staying neutral and let the community vote on that, but note that I created those cats looking at the cats avalaible for Westerners doing the same job as the page I just created then, which was Kavsokl Batoka at the time, I believe. Here it was probably Coco Channel that was taken as an example by myself. Maybe it's a mistake, but at least it shows that the same type of cats exist for Western figures/countries. AgisdeSparte (talk) 07:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No one doubts that these categories can exist for non western categories. The challenge is that making lots of tiny categories makes it much more difficult to find individuals. Often the solution is to use a larger region for example Category:African people by occupation has numerous examples of this. Mason (talk) 20:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Crime in Togo by type

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are numerous redundant category layers for a single page Agence nationale des renseignements (Togo) Mason (talk) 00:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Social movements in Togo

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 12:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer Mason (talk) 00:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cities in Kloto (prefecture)

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Category:Populated places in Togo by type

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 12:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is a redundant category layer. Mason (talk) 00:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indonesian feminist writers

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one person it in, which isn't helpful for navigation. I urge the category creator to only create categories that can be populated. Mason (talk) 23:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Turn-based video games

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Businesspeople in real estate vs. real estate businesspeople

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Category:Painters by theme

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Category:American farmers of Japanese descent

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Category:Volunteer security group In Nigeria

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Badly-named (it would need to be pluralized as groups and have the I in "in" lowercased if it's to exist at all) category newly created to hold just one thing. A renamed version would be fine if there were five things to file here, but is not needed for just one, so the base "Law enforcement" category is all that's needed at this time. Bearcat (talk) 16:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Commercial Bank CEOs in Nigeria

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization at a bad name that doesn't comply with naming conventions for categories. We don't have any other categories that group banking executives separately from other-type-of-company executives -- i.e. no Category:Bank executives or Category:Banking executives tree exists at all -- but Nigeria doesn't have any special need to categorize banking executives separately from other business executives if no other country has that, and even if there were a valid reason to keep this it would have to be renamed for conformity with proper naming conventions anyway. Bearcat (talk) 16:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Gold graduation stoles

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category for university and college honor societies on a non-defining characteristic. Honor societies are not defined by the colour of the finery that they present to their graduates. Bearcat (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On first blush I agree with your sentiment @Bearcat, however upon lengthy research, stoles are a central part of the reason people join honor societies, and gold stoles are a common thread and defining feature of many honor societies in particular. This is furthered by the idea of one honor society suing another for using gold stoles. I believe it's a meaningful category for the academic space, and a way students and schools do categorize societies. I would be open renaming as the wiki community sees fit. WikiObjectivity (talk) 20:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nepalese martyrs

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Category:Sport in Norwood, Massachusetts

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Sport in X" category for a small town without enough noteworthy sporting events to need one. As always, every town that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one sporting event with an article has been held there -- and while there is one other thing in the Norwood parent category that could be refiled here, there would need to be at least five sporting events with articles to file in here before a dedicated "Sports in Norwood" category was actually needed, and for just two events we only need the state-level sports category and Norwood's eponymous base category rather than an intersected crosscategory. And even if this were to be kept, it would have to be renamed to Sports, because there's an WP:ENGVAR difference between US and UK English here. Bearcat (talk) 16:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator's rationale. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:29, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Former states and territories of Thuringia

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Category:First Nations

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: With the increasing use of "First Nations" as a synonym or replacement for "aboriginal" or "indigenous" in Australia, this category is starting to drift into ambiguous territory, and I've already had to clean it up at least once for the misfiling of several Australia-related topics. So we should probably now rename this to be more Canada-specific, and repurpose the plain "First Nations" as either a container for that and Australian indigenous categories, or a disambiguation category (or just a preemptive categoryredirect to the general Category:Indigenous peoples, since such usage may expand again in the future.) Some other subcategories will likely require renaming as well, but will have to be handled separately because there may be different issues in play (e.g. "First Nations in [Specific Canadian Province or Territory]" won't need renaming; Category:First Nations films will, but "First Nations in Canada films" won't be the correct answer; etc.), and they won't all be consistently one-size-fits-all. Bearcat (talk) 15:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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American citrus farmers

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Category:Films directed by Chao Deng

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The main article for this category is Deng Chao, where Deng is the subject's family name. However it is not an eponymous category so not eligible for a speedy rename (correct me if I'm wrong on this point) Vegantics (talk) 14:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Philippine anime-influenced Western animated television series

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Category:Thai anime-influenced Western animated television series

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Category:Games about extraterrestrial life

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Category:British military personnel of the Nine Years' War

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 11:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The Nine Years' War lasted from September 27, 1688, to September 20, 1697, which was before Great Britain became a nation. Notablly 17th-century English military personnel is a parent Mason (talk) 01:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Killzone

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary separation of a video game franchise and its games. This category previously only contained Joris de Man besides its main subject article, but I removed it because while he is a composer of the Killzone video games, he does not fit in, in some ways because he also composed the Horizon soundtrack. I'm pretty sure that is just an excuse for there to be more than 1 article in this category. After this, rename the subcategory to just simply "Killzone." QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep due to the fact instead of continuing this discussion I decided to label "Killzone games" with a redirect to "Killzone." At this point, you may just to reply with Speedy Keep. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:28, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Science fiction shooter video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category that feels out of place - Not a defining trait for the shooter game genre, especially because science fiction is really just a generic theme for the genre as a whole. Does not even categorize every single video game that is both a science fiction and shooter game. I would have instead split with Sci-fi and Shooter games but that wouldn't work due to multiple subgenres of shooter game, and only a few articles do not have a shooter games category, except for like Halo (franchise) and Gears of War. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Squares and ball games

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Category:Ditherpunk video games

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 14:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Ditherpunk" is still a neogolism, with only a few sources supporting this term (including the developer self describing one of the games in this list), we should be categorizing by such terms Masem (t) 21:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No need for upmerging with Category:Monochrome video games. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I started the category to distinguish games with a dithering style from other monochromatic graphics. Besides the growing use in sources, there's also a subreddit dedicated to the style.
However, any other rename for the category could be alright too. --NoonIcarus (talk) 02:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Musical theorists of the medieval Islamic world

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 14:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Should be "Music theorists"; "Musical theorists" is not a normal term. Aza24 (talk) 19:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Module documentation pages

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Category:Olympic Games in fiction

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Category:Egyptian art movements

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 15:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1-article category Gjs238 (talk) 13:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport

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Category:Sportspeople from Japan by prefecture

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Category:Essays about biology

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 15:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Smaller underpopulated category. I've already added the lone page to Biology books‎ Mason (talk) 12:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Early infrastructure

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 15:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layers in these early centuries. With few exceptions it only contains a bridges subcategory under Transport infrastructure and a fortifications subcategory directly under Infrastructure. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christian pacifist Wikipedians

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 15:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Uncategorised film articles

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Category:Jazzland Records (1960) albums

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 15:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure why two categories were created, but now releases in two categories belong to the same label. The only other label with a similar name also already has its own category: Category:Jazzland Recordings albums. Solidest (talk) 22:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jazzland seems to be a sublabel of it. Riverside Records discography says it's subsidiary, Discogs says it's companion label. Solidest (talk) 12:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • As the articles from both categories have the same label name in the infobox, which links to the same article (even while it is a different article name), merging seems the best solution indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bengali cinema

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The result of the discussion was: keep. An RM should be the first step here. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category should be changed since the main article's name was changed from Cinema of West Bengal to Bengali cinema, India. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:12th-century Indian sculptors

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 15:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. Isolated century category that doesn't really help with navigation. Mason (talk) 01:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video game franchises by narrative genre

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Video game series by narrative genre. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this is clearly a subcategory of Category:Video games by narrative genre, why would you suggest an unrelated name? AHI-3000 (talk) 04:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pages using LPFM station data without facility ID

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Category:Hotels in Pattaya

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July 24

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Category:Pages using AM station data without facility ID

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Category:Pages using FM station data without facility ID

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Category:People with Asperger syndrome

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Category:Sam & Cat

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:iCarly and Category:Victorious. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. Should also be merged to Category:Victorious. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films produced by Thomas K. Gray

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization: This is a category for films directed by someone who has either never had or no longer has a Wikipedia article about them. It has only one entry for a film from 1993 and a search for additional articles that meet the criteria of this category turned up no results. I would not oppose this category being re-created in the future if Gray produces additional films, but at the present moment this is unhelpful for navigating Wikipedia Vegantics (talk) 17:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cochise County conflict

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Category:American folklore

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The result of the discussion was: split. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP, this should be split into a people and non-people category. --woodensuperman 12:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Family of Boris Johnson

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Reverse speedy name change. It was an error on my part; I didn't realize that the original version was the correct form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Marcocapelle, I would say that the name, for now, should be made consistant with all the other categories and then a later Cfd can be opened with an A and B option for categories like this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the principle of discussing the A and B options; would that be an RfC or can CfDs present two possibilities like that? I've found many more categories to add to Category:Families by person (which has been speedily renamed since earlier in this conversation), and the picture now looks very mixed. Ham II (talk) 19:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Oppose. If it is the family of a single notable individual, it should be in the form Family of [person], but if it is the whole family being discussed, is should be [Surname] family. --woodensuperman 12:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as "Family of Boris Johnson" per above, on grammatical grounds & others. Johnbod (talk) 17:41, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Proposed name sounds awkward and current name is better. It only makes sense to use "X family" if it's just the surname. An ordinary person called John Smith would refer to his family as "the Smith family" and never "the John Smith family". MClay1 (talk) 04:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works about villains

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete , so rename to Category:Works featuring villain protagonists. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This topic is really vague in the extreme, almost anything can be called a "villain" by someone or characterized as being "about" a villain if they feature heavily in the plot. It doesn't make sense as a category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Works with villain protagonists. Looking at one of the articles, I think this is supposed to be about works with a villain as the protagonist, such as Soon I Will Be Invincible. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, Category:Works featuring villain protagonists, like the video game subcategory, Category:Video games featuring villain protagonists. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dobrujan Tatar

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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. It only has two articles: Dobrujan Tatar and Dobrujan Tatar alphabet. Everything can be included in the parent Category:Crimean Tatar language, as Dobrujan Tatar is a dialect of it (and the page on the dialect already includes this category). Super Ψ Dro 23:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might sound confusing due to the geographic names but the Crimean Khanate once extended beyond Crimea and its population was semi-nomadic from what I understand. Dobrujan Tatar is a dialect of the Crimean Tatar language, this has been discussed already at Talk:Dobrujan Tatar. Super Ψ Dro 10:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, I had not checked ths talk page. From what I understand of the discussion, the merge target should be Category:Kipchak languages. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, it has been not. We are not linguist at all. I, as a speaker of this language, disagree with it. The situation of this language is not clear!!!! Maybe you hear "it's a dialect" from somewhere and act with own knowledge, this is not a solution. The language is in discussion by SIL, and they noticed that the language is different than Crimean Tatar. The discussions are in progress. Zolgoyo (talk) 13:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from the Savoyard state

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 23:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Smasongarrison and Marcocapelle: Any compromise here? HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that Marcocapelle has really excellent and thoughtful points. I think that the current names and the entire tree is a mess. No consensus? I would love for a solution but I think we'd really need to taken the full tree. Mason (talk) 03:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Technology articles with topics of unclear notability

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear if these are needed as they aren't listed as one of the valid categories in {{Notability}}. Gonnym (talk) 08:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not used by Template:Notability, according to source code. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bombing of the Gaza Strip

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Airstrikes during the Israel–Hamas war. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category has a lot of overlap with the parent category. I think a better name would be Category:Israeli airstrikes during the Israel–Hamas war, which more closely mirrors sibling categories like Category:American airstrikes during the Syrian civil war Mason (talk) 04:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:3-honeycombs by order

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Mostly redirects with few unique articles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American veterans activists

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Category:Bedouin businesspeople

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 14:30, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not necessary to subcategorize the target category this way. Also contains only 2 articles. Gjs238 (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete, the articles are already in Category:Egyptian businesspeople and Category:Syrian businesspeople, which should suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Isn't there some benefit to categorising by ethnicity and nationality? Anecdotally, every Bedouin I've ever met would say that they're a Bedouin first and their nationality second. – Joe (talk) 06:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • merge I will nominate Category:Arab businesspeople shortly because it conflates ethnicity and nationality, like so many similar categories that have been brought to CfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Does it conflate them or just set up a parallel scheme for ethnicity, i.e. Category:Businesspeople by ethnicity? Do you also object to Category:African-American businesspeople and Category:Jewish businesspeople? – Joe (talk) 06:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Jewish businesspeople is a recreation of a previously deleted category, so it is at least controversial. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      But it exists now. And Nyttend recently declined a CSD nom with this enlightening edit summary: We're no longer in the same situation as before — the recent "keep" for Jews by occupation (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 26) means that there's recent support for categories of this type, and speedy-deleting just this one would be absurd. I don't have a dog in this fight, but wouldn't it make sense to establish a consensus for or against categories by ethnicity, rather than seeking to delete individual ones here and there? – Joe (talk) 11:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retain I can list quite a few reasons for this: Bedouins have a distinct cultural, historical, and social identity within the Arab world. Merging their category into a general "Arab businesspeople" category could be seen as diluting the unique aspects of their cultural heritage. A specific category helps represent their unique challenges and contributions which might not be adequately covered. The Bedouin community has a history of nomadic trade and business practices that differ significantly from other Arab groups. A specific category preserves this historical context. Bedouins have distinct social structures and community dynamics that influence their business practices. Specific business strategies, success stories and challenges faced by Bedouin businesspeople can be studied with the help of a dedicated category. For cultural studies research, having a specific category can help in drawing more nuanced conclusions about the Bedouin way of life and their integration into modern economies. Furthermore, Wikipedia claims to be an inclusive platform representing diverse perspectives and communities. This category aligns with the principle of giving minority groups adequate representation. Merging the category marginalizes the Bedouin community within the larger Arab context.--Simxaraba (talk) 08:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    None of this addresses the small size of the category, and this is just WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There are several more businessmen that are notable enough to be written about. Just because the category is small at the moment doesn't mean there aren't more. Simxaraba (talk) 15:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge

Gjs238 (talk) 10:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:4-polytope stubs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Geometry stubs. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A small 26-page stub category on a niche topic. Consider also checking if articles are directly in Category:4-polytopes. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Reginar Brussels

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 14:30, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination of a category which was discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#History of Brussels by period but was never tagged; I have no opinion on whether this should happen or not. Pinging Marcocapelle. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Palestinian bedouins

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Nominator's rationale: Effectively redundant. Will require manual addition of parent categories to the target, for it is a downmerge. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Brainwashing theory proponents

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 14:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Whatever the difference is supposed to be between these two categories is beyond me. As far as I can tell, both categories are about people notable for writing works promoting the legitimacy of the sociological concept of brainwashing/mind control (which are more or less the same thing). This just seems like a slightly less neutral version of the other category made by a banned sock. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lean delete, but only mildly. Mason (talk) 23:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They aren't in the other category. I would rather not have to add them to it manually after the fact. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video games with expansion packs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Last year, on May 7, 2023. A similar category "Video games with downloadable content" was deleted, and expansion packs are pretty much the same as downloadable content. In turn, this category is probably non-defining. Expansion packs are as common as DLC, and are essentially the same. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'd agree with the nominator - having an expansion pack does not always modify the base game, so it's hard to call it a defining feature. Categories should be defining aspects of the subject, not something tangential. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose because there are several other potentially non defining categories like "Video games with alternate versions" that I would have put under discussion in the same nomination or whatever. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 21:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The nominator's objection seems bizarre. They can just make a followup nom. Mason (talk) 04:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Museum collections

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Category:Kingdom Hearts original characters

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Kingdom Hearts characters to Category:Kingdom Hearts original characters. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Over 100 characters from various animated Disney movies, were removed from "Kingdom Hearts characters" about 1 or 2 years ago, also that category contains only 1 article. Also, we have to add an explanation to that category after the merge, since then it would only be for original characters. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1370 in Brussels

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Category:19th-century feminists

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Category:Counts of Geneva

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, the category consists of two very different sets of medieval ruling counts of Geneva, who are already in Category:House of Geneva and for early modern members of the House of Savoy for whom this was merely an empty title. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't believe the above summary to be quite right. Several members of the house of Savoy enjoyed practical control over the county and they are not going to be recorded in 'house of Geneva'. There is also the house of Thoire that controlled the county briefly in the late medieval period who presently lack articles but would be members of the category if they didn't. Moreover even after the city of Geneva slipped from their grasp (they maintained control of other parts of the county such as Annecy) the county remained prominent among their titulary (several of the sons of the dukes of Nemours were called the prince de Genevois until the death of their fathers) and is featured in the leading sentences of many of the articles. sovietblobfish (talk) 08:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I do agree some form of re-allocation needs to happen from Jacques on down. Especially given the county was raised to a duchy by the duke of Savoy in 1564. Perhaps they should be migrated to a category called something like 'Prince de Genevois' or 'Prince of the Genevois'. sovietblobfish (talk) 08:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Of course members of the house of Savoy enjoyed practical control over the county because it was part of the Savoyard state and the rulers of the latter were the ones enjoying practical control. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:09, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      At times yes, however the county (-1564 duchy) was under the authority of the cadet branch Savoie-Nemours for the majority of the 16th century and parts of the 17th century, and they were primarily French princes.
      Irrespective of whether they or the dukes of Savoy enjoyed practical control, this surely challenges the notion that it was an 'empty title' and it is therefore meaningful to keep it. sovietblobfish (talk) 12:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Villains in mythology and legend

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Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: keep and let Gonnym work their magic (this is the ping you requested). HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant categoey lay Mason (talk) 03:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Is @Gonnym willing to fix the template? Mason (talk) 04:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that isn't an issue. Ping me if this closes with that result. Gonnym (talk) 06:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If Gonnym or someone else is willing to fix the template, I'm fine with keeping the category. Mason (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Irish blind musicians

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Category:British companies established in 1706

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Template:British companies established in the year only works for companies established after the creation of the Kingdom of Great Britain in 1707 * Pppery * it has begun... 00:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Biological literature by Janet Frost

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Qwerfjkltalk 14:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories contain two non-notable dissertations that are going to soon be deleted. User who created these has been also indeffed for multiple reasons, including COI and hoax creation. Sgubaldo (talk) 00:03, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Every deletion area on Wikipedia has its own rules and quirks. You won't find me at WP:TFD! Liz Read! Talk! 00:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1961 in Sri Lanka

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: empty category duplicate of Category:1961 in Ceylon Robby (talk) 21:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Records of prime ministers

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No such category tree. Gjs238 (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just added a category.Muaza Husni (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Roman Catholic church buildings in Turkey

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Nominator's rationale: merge, mostly single-article categories, which is not helpful for navigation. All Roman Catholic churches in Turkey are either from the 19th or 20th century, or in Istanbul or Izmir, or both. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: you say merge, but you only suggested one of the categories be merged. Do you have more merge targets in mind? HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:6th-century soldiers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:6th-century military personnel. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Isolated category that's not helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 05:25, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People executed by British North America by hanging

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Category:ISO/IEC 27000-series

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: CfR to match main article title. 'family' is used by ISO. See edit summary. Tule-hog (talk) 01:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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July 22

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Category:Military personnel of the Middle Ages

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should rename this to be consistent with other Medieval occupations. Notably all the child categories are Medieval FOO military personnel Mason (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional people from the Austro-Hungarian empire

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. I think there's no need to have a category with a single person in it. If not deleted, I think we should rename it to match the parent Category:People from Austria-Hungary Mason (talk) 23:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional Alta California people

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single category member, and not corresponding Category:Alta California people Mason (talk) 23:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1974 disasters in Mozambique

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated category, the next is for the year 2000. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:19th-century British biblical scholars

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Untagged categories from the Portuguese Mozambique CfDs

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination of two categories which were discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 13#Years in (Portuguese) Mozambique but were never tagged. I have no opinion on whether this is a good idea or not; pinging @Marcocapelle and Fayenatic london: who participated in that discussion. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 21:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Infobox road transclusions without route marker

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This doesn't seem to be used anymore as I can't find it in actual template or module code. Gonnym (talk) 17:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments: I don't even remember making this category anymore, or even if I was just trying to fill in a red-category. It looks like something I was creating for the administrators to help them sort out some broken road related templates. Perhaps a soft redirect to Category:Jct template errors might suffice in the event of an increase in the number of routeboxes transclusions without route numbers turns up again. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can always recreate if/when it becomes a problem; WP:REFUNDs are cheap. Delete for now. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Protected area articles requiring maintenance

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not used anymore by Template:Infobox protected area. Gonnym (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Articles using Infobox medical condition using locally defined parameters

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The rationale for deletion has been completely rebutted; no prejudice against a fresh nomination if this category is problematic for other reasons. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 19:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem to be in use anymore as I can't find it in Template:Infobox medical condition or linked to from anywhere. Gonnym (talk) 16:57, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It's automatically added through WikidataIB when a local parameter is set, see e.g., Category:Articles using Infobox artwork/wikidata using locally defined parameters for a more populated category. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 00:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Gonnym. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pages using Infobox boxer (amateur) with conflicting parameters

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not used as Category:Pages using infobox boxer (amateur) with conflicting parameters (lowercase i) is used. Gonnym (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- I think Gonnym may be misinterpreting the template code. Because |template_name=Infobox boxer (amateur) (capitalized) is passed to {{Infobox person}}, Category:Pages using Infobox boxer (amateur) with conflicting parameters (capitalized) is used and Category:Pages using infobox boxer (amateur) with conflicting parameters (lower case) is unused. I would delete the latter. Alternatively, we could change the template code, but then we'll need to create Category:Pages using infobox boxer (amateur) with unknown parameters. Either choice is fine with me. — hike395 (talk) 05:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I don't care which is used, but it was confusing seeing these two with the difference being the I. Gonnym (talk) 07:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't we close this CfD and open one for Category:Pages using infobox boxer (amateur) with conflicting parameters (lowercase) ? — hike395 (talk) 14:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging User:Gonnym (apologies for the repeated pings). HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pointless beuro. Gonnym (talk) 08:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pages using infobox Australian place with non-lga type and suppressed location map

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per author request. ✗plicit 23:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem to be in use anymore at Template:Infobox Australian place. Gonnym (talk) 16:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Glacier articles requiring maintenance

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear where this was used as it isn't linked to from anywhere. Gonnym (talk) 16:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian Statistical Geography Standard 2016 ID template with no id set

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Does not seem to be added by Template:Census 2016 AUS as I couldn't find it in code or docs. Gonnym (talk) 16:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian Statistical Geography Standard 2011 ID template with no id set

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Does not seem to be added by Template:Census 2011 AUS as I couldn't find it in code or docs. Gonnym (talk) 16:34, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Second ladies and gentlemen of the United States

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The result of the discussion was: merge and rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1) Rename to match categories in Category:Spouses of United States state governors and article too. 2) Merge Category:Second gentlemen of the United States with Category:Second ladies of the United States AFTER it has been renamed. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Television episodes written by Michael Ferris

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Michael Ferris is a disambiguation page. Gonnym (talk) 09:24, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy rename per C2B. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:History of the foreign relations of Estonia

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The result of the discussion was: remove Ukraine Compact from the listed categories. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Due to the article Ukraine Compact, user:Stickhandler has massively created one-member cats. To be upmerged to e.g. "Category:Foreign relations of Foo country" Estopedist1 (talk) 06:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Affected are:

--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Central Greece

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SHAREDNAME. Central Greece (region) is the modern administrative region (Περιφέρεια perifereia) established in 1987. Central Greece (geographic region) is the historic geographical region (γεωγραφικό διαμέρισμα geografiko diamerisma) abolished in 1987. I have WP:BOLDly renamed Central Greece (an WP:UNSOURCED article) to Central Greece (geographic region), and turned Central Greece into a DP, hoping to clarify the situation. Splitting the category is the next logical step. Child categories can be renamed if so desired per WP:C2C once this split is approved. NLeeuw (talk) 08:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is too simplistic a solution for a complex problem. I'll illustrate the problem with maps:
If we want this category to be only about the modern administrative region (perifereia) of Central Greece, it's not just about removing Attica, it is also removing parts of Western Greece, removing the northeast coast of the Pelopponese (or not?), removing Kythira (or not?), but adding Skyros (or not?), and so on. NLeeuw (talk) 10:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 04:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I nominated grandchild Category:Battles in Central Greece for renaming to Category:Military history of Central Greece. Under my current splitting proposal, that renaming proposal remains unaffected. But if we want to avoid the Lorraine problem, as in previous "Battles in" discussions, it might have to be renamed to Category:Military history of Central Greece (region) later on. My splitting proposal was designed mostly to solve that potential Lorraine problem ahead of time, but I guess it doesn't really matter, as we can always C2C it later. NLeeuw (talk) 05:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marcocapelle, Nederlandse Leeuw, do you have a compromise here? — Qwerfjkltalk 19:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure Marcocapelle understood what I was proposing, and why. I was hoping for others to weigh in, but nobody else seems to care. NLeeuw (talk) 19:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Nederlandse Leeuw: the proposal is to create a category for the former definition of Central Greece, next to a category of the current definition of Central Greece. I think that this is just confusing. We do not usually split geography categories by former borders. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless the category for the former definition of Central Greece contains purely historical contents, to which the modern definition would not apply. NLeeuw (talk) 03:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clear old CfD log page.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional robbers

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 30#Category:Fictional robbers

Category:Scottish noblewomen

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 30#Category:Scottish noblewomen

Category:Artists from New Spain

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 30#Category:Artists from New Spain

Category:American high school teachers

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 30#Category:American high school teachers

Category:Land agents

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 22:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created category containing 1 eponymous article and 1 "land agent" Gjs238 (talk) 01:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw proposal after content addition. Many thanks to LeapTorchGear! Gjs238 (talk) 21:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Los Angeles Knight Riders

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created category containing 1 article. Gjs238 (talk) 01:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per C2F. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There's no article attached in that category Wowlastic10 (talk) 03:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Comparative theology

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created category containing 1 article. Gjs238 (talk) 01:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1805 in Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge similar to all years up to 1804. The Holy Roman Empire was disestablished in 1806. It is a bit confusing because the Austrian Empire was established two years earlier, in 1804. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:1805 establishments in Germany.
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Category:Pages using new version of Template EstcatCountry

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No longer necessary: all pages use the new version of {{EstcatCountry}}. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Category:Pages using old version of Template EstcatCountry was speedy deleted per G8 in September 2023. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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NCAA University and College Divisions, 1956 to 1961

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per recent discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football/Archive 27#1956 NCAA College Division football season, research determined that the NCAA University Division and NCAA College Division were not applied to football until 1962. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Duchy of Lucca year categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete/dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Massive tree for two articles (Lucca railway station and Luccan lira) which is unhelpful for navigation. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. The Duchy of Lucca was a small Italian state that existed from 1815 to 1847. Both articles are in other appropriate establishment and Lucca-related subcategories than the ones included here. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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15 to 21 days old

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July 21

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Category:Lists of tennis commentators

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in the category, upmerge to the parent category. Let'srun (talk) 22:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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German Confederation

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, there was no unified German country until 1871. The German Confederation (1815-1866) was a loose connection of independent states which also included Austria and Bohemia. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, @PearlyGigs and Fayenatic london: pinging contributors to this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish American slave owners

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per previous precedent here Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Marcocapelle and @Smasongarrison from previous Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison, there were a few which weren't but I've added them to the appropriate subcats of Category:American Jews. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Mason (talk) 23:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish businesspeople

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: My speedy delete nomination was declined [2] (Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_July_8) because there have been more recent mixed opinions of the intersection of being Jewish and several occupations (e.g., Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_May_14#Category:Jewish_merchants; Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_August_29#Category:Jewish_sportspeople; link:for a search of CFDS with the word Jewish, sorted by most recent);Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_12#Category:Jewish_British_slave_owners). I think that this category is problematic under WP:EGRS given that it is primarily based on a stereotype rather than a defining intersection. I recall that several business-related child categories have been deleted over the same concern. (I think that Jewish Bankers is an exception because of the historical context of banking in Europe being a non-Christian occupation because of usury) Mason (talk) 16:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Omnis Scientia, do you remember with business occupations were recently deleted? (My brain is telling me that you were in those conversations.)Mason (talk) 16:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison, no I wasn't but I would say this one should be deleted. A lot of Jewish businesspeople, historically speaking, so WP:EGRS applies. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! (Lol, my bad. I should clearly stop listening to my brain 🤣 for advice!) Mason (talk) 19:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fire temples

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, 1 and 2 members respectively. Both were created by an editor who was subsequently blocked for WP:SOCKING. – Fayenatic London 14:25, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Korean women independence activists

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 30#Category:Korean women independence activists

Category:Battles of the Venetian–Genoese wars

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#Category:Battles of the Venetian–Genoese wars

History of Great Britain by period

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#History of Great Britain by period


Category:Cathedrals in Baku

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, Category:Cathedrals in Azerbaijan is otherwise nearly empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Armenian Catholic churches

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 29#Armenian Catholic churches

Category:Oriental Orthodox monasteries in Azerbaijan

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer. Contains Armenian Apostolic sub-cat, and 1 page Yerits Mankants Monastery which says it was affiliated with Armenian Apostolic Church. Move page into subcat and upmerge. The other parent Category:Oriental Orthodox monasteries by country already holds the subcat via Category:Armenian Apostolic monasteries by country, so a dual merge is not needed. – Fayenatic London 08:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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July 20

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Pre-statehood Colorado categories

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename. (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: If kept, rename to Foo in Colorado Territory because Colorado did not become a state until 1876. However, a single-redirect category is not helpful for navigation. Merge to Category:1874 in Colorado Territory, and redirect Category:1874 in Colorado to Category:1874 in Colorado Territory as a {{R from category navigation}}. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 20:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Homosexual concentration camp survivors

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should rename this category to use the more inclusive and commonly used term of LGBT. The rename would also be more consistent with the other Nazi era category (Category:LGBT people in the Nazi Party‎) Mason (talk) 20:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Missouri elections before Missouri was a state

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: If kept, rename all to Foo in Missouri Territory because Missouri was not a state yet. However, a tree entirely composed of single-redirect categories is not helpful for navigation, and should be merged to the respective "[Year] in Missouri Territory" categories. (Category:1814 Missouri elections has two redirects, but the principle stands.) Delete two other categories which will become empty once all of their children categories are merged. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 20:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Washington (state) categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: First, Washington (state) did not become a state until 1889, so these categories are redundant to the corresponding Washington Territory. However, this entire mini-tree is just to categorize two redirects, so we only need to move them the appropriate "[Year] in Washington Territory" categories and delete the tree. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 19:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Parks and lakes in Jakarta

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The result of the discussion was: split. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Badly-named category that crosses two different types of things. No other category for either parks or lakes anywhere else in the world merges the two things into one shared category, and there's no reason why Jakarta's parks and lakes would have a uniquely Jakarta-specific need for different handling from everywhere else. In fact, this was originally at just "parks", and then got moved to this divergent name several years ago without any particular explanation given as to why such a thing would have been needed. Bearcat (talk) 17:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Missouri Territory

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 16:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Missouri did not exist until 1821; beforehand, it was the Missouri Territory. Merge to reflect this, and keep redirects as {{R from template-generated category}}s {{R from category navigation}}. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 14:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC) (corrected rcat at 20:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC))[reply]
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Category:LGBT men artists

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 28#Category:LGBT men artists

Category:Princes in Germany

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Princes in the German Empire and purge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename for clarification that it is not about people after World War I, and to align with Category:People from the German Empire. Also check entries manually: if they do not belong here, they are likely to belong in Category:Princes of the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename. ETA: Also support purge. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, shouldn't there be one for the German Confederation era between the Holy Roman Empire and German Empire? Just a thought. I know there was a brief North German Confederation but that was essentially a brief version of what became the united German Empire. The main big one was between the two empires was the German Confederation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom SFBB (talk) 10:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dutch princes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Princes of the Netherlands and purge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: this previous discussion was about Fooian princes or princes of Foo, but we certainly do not need them both. Purge entries that aren't about princes in the Netherlands and merge the two categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Omnis Scientia, SFBB, and Hey man im josh: pinging contributors to previous discussion. See also discussion right above this one. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename. ETA: also support purge. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom SFBB (talk) 10:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pig breeds originating from Indigenous Americans

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, one-article categories are not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous Americans

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. I also think the current category name is confusing/hard to parse. Mason (talk) 14:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Multiple citizenship

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 28#Category:Multiple citizenship

Category:Philippine Sports Commission

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 28#Category:Philippine Sports Commission

Category:Pyramids and bipyramids

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The result of the discussion was: split. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are two different classes of shapes that shouldn't be lumped together. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tamil priests

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Tamil people. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden the category to all clergy rather than the narrower priests. (I am not opposed to upmerging for now, given that this category has only one person in it) Mason (talk) 01:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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AFD topic-sorting subcategories

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I originally brought this up here and nobody seemed to have any objection to moving forward or any reason why these are still useful, so here we are.
These categories are redundant to deletion sorting, which provides much more fine-grained sorting and is built in to scripts such as Twinkle. Their utility was clear in the past before deletion sorting became both commonplace and simple to do, but now they are just an unneeded extra step in the process. It is my guess that the only reason they are still in use is that these same tools require it as part of the nomination process. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is no archive for closed discussions in these categories. They also overlap in scope, and their format does not support the overlap, unlike delsort. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It is my understanding that any given deletion discussion may appear on more than one category page. If this is correct, then the overlap makes topics relevant to one's interest and expertise easier to find. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Beşiktaş J.K. players

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The result of the discussion was: convert to a intermediate layer. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 14:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This should be an intermediate layer in Category:Beşiktaş J.K., not a disambig category. This football club has several branches for other sports. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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@LaundryPizza03: for clarity, are you saying it should be deleted and then made into an intermediate layer, or are you saying that it should be converted into a layer without deleting, and you just took it to CfD for consensus? HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter, the end result is the same. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dominican Republic people of European American descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Weird and confusing name. Looking at the content of this category, it seems that this is not intended for Dominicans with ancestry in the U.S., as the parent categories would indicate, (for which we have Dominican Republic people of American descent) but in fact Dominicans from the local population of largely colonial European background, which is called the White Dominicans. José Ignacio Paliza is an example of that. Deletion is also an option. Place Clichy (talk) 16:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 June 6
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 21:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am going to ping all of the participants at the DRV thread.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above dicussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pppery, Iñaki Salazar, Marcocapelle, SportingFlyer, Extraordinary Writ, Stifle, Polygnotus, and Alalch E.: please share your thoughts. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Thanks for the ping. I have shared my thoughts here but I will repost them here for convenience:
Why should Wikipedia categorize people based on their ancestry? We don't know the ancestry of 99% of BLP subjects. For example, Category:Dominican Republic people of African American descent contains Max Puig who is also in the category Category:Dominican Republic people of Italian descent. But he is also in Dominican Republic people of Catalan descent, Dominican Republic people of Haitian descent, People of Ligurian descent, Dominican Republic people of Dutch descent and Dominican Republic people of Turks and Caicos Islands descent... Who gives a shit? We should remove this information about non-notable people. Do we really want to list everyone's ancestry for thousands of generations until everyone is from Africa? This obsession is unhealthy and insane. We have no reliable sources that give detailed information on the ancestry of anyone alive today, unless perhaps if you are a Habsburger or similar (and even in that case we only know a fragment). It is weird and potentially offensive to label people incorrectly based on flimsy evidence, notoriously unreliable amateur genealogical research and looks. Why do we not require sources for categorization? Just categorize people on their nationality/nationalities if there are reliable sources. Polygnotus (talk) 01:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Worms (series)

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I couldn't just wait to delete it. I already moved all the subcategories to the other one. "Worms (series)" LITTERALLY only contains the main topic article, you will have to rename "Worms (series) games" to "Worms (series)" after. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Games by genre

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Games by genre


Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Nakhchivan

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Armenian buildings in Azerbaijan

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Armenian buildings in Azerbaijan

Category:Racially motivated violence against white people in Africa

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Racially motivated violence against white people in Africa


Category:Professional wrestling in Cleveland

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: An unnecessary category as all articles are in Category:Professional wrestling shows in Cleveland User:Namiba 16:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Flags of Manchukuo

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. to Category:Manchukuo and Category:Obsolete national flags. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category contains only one page and is unlikely to have a scope broader than that one page. Reconrabbit 13:28, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mathrubhumi Film Award winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This alleged award is mentioned in only two of the articles in this category. Neither mention cites a reliable source. I find no English-language evidence that this award exists. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deaths from diabetes

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Diabetes-related deaths. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Option A: rename Category:Deaths from diabetes to Category:Diabetes-related deaths as deaths are usually not directly caused by diabetes itself but rather by complications related to diabetes.
Option B: delete Category:Deaths from diabetes as a too indiscriminate characteristic. We do not even have Category:People with diabetes.
Once there is sufficient initial support for option A or B I will add the subcategories to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support A option because the deaths are usually from complications. I Oppose B's reasoning. You can have a cause of death that is defining, even if the category of people with the condition isn't. See Category:Deaths from poliomyelitis(defining), Category:People with polio (non-defining), and Category:Polio survivors(defining).Mason (talk) 14:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ape Escape games

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The result of the discussion was: keep. I will note that the category was never tagged. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:06, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merge
Merge Category:Ape Escape games into Category:Ape Escape
Nominator's rationale Parent category is too small in scope to warrant a subcategory, I believe it should be merged but it might be fiercely contested. MimirIsSmart (talk) 08:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Racially motivated violence against Europeans

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Racially motivated violence against Europeans


July 18

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Category:Fictional characters who use magic

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming:
Nominator's rationale: I think this is long overdue. The reason I'm suggesting this is because of the precedent established by the renaming of multiple other categories about characters with various superpowers, including:
So you get where I'm going with this right? "Fictional magicians" just sounds better than "Fictional characters who use magic", and for these renamed subcategories the new names will be shorter and more concise. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video games about crime

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Video games about crime

Category:Video games about the military

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Video games about the military

Category:Sailing simulators

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The result of the discussion was: reverse upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Practically the same thing, desired target category also only contains 2 articles. So this makes perfect sense. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom AHI-3000 (talk) 00:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose instead we will Just delete Category:Sailing video games and keep Category:Sailing simulators. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dutch people of the Eighty Years' War (Spanish Empire)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27#Category:Dutch people of the Eighty Years' War (Spanish Empire)

Category:Worms (series) games

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus given Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 19#Category:Worms (series) was closed as delete. No prejudice against a fresh discussion, but relisting when the facts have changed substantially is pointless because prior comments are entirely irrelevant to the current situation. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I previously nominated this category but I removed for some reason, but I'm doing it again, the parent category "Worms (series)" only contains the main subject, and "Worms (series) games" contains 27 articles. So This makes the category 100% useless. We usually only categorize video game franchises like this if there is a significant amount of content related to the franchise, other than individual games.

We also have to move all subcategories in this category to the desired parent category first (I think).

QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom AHI-3000 (talk) 00:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not something to support. It for some reason wasn't the way I was supposed to do it. Aparently I had to do it the other way around. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aztec scholars

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the category description, this category is for scholars of the Aztec people, rather than Aztec people who are scholars. I think we should rename it to make that distinction clearer. Mason (talk) 22:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Futurama films

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 04:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to its subcategory about season 5. This also categorizes categories with categories in a way that is likely better served by categorizing individual articles. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, this does seem rather redundant considering that the category for Season 5 covers all the exact same articles. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Broken Sword games

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Category:Monkey Island games

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. As this is already a well-attended discussion, I am opting not to relist per WP:RELIST itself (If the closer feels there has been substantive discussion, and disparate opinions supported by policy have been expressed, but consensus has not been achieved, a no-consensus close may be preferable.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is small, and its parent category contains only 2 subcategories and 4 (3 now i think) articles. If we merged this with the other category it would make navigation easier, but we've got to add all categories to the parent category too, maybe I can just do that right now. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, there's no reason to keep this category separate, especially because this franchise only seems to have video games but no other notable works in other media. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also nominated "Broken Sword games" as well as Worms series games QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Therapy 2093

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: With one album already appropriately categorized in Category:Therapy 2093 albums and the only article related to the musician, this eponymous category is unnecessary per WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sultans of Bijapur

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Because Category:Adil Shahi dynasty was not tagged, the alternative proposals can be the subject of a fresh nomination. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC); Clarified per request 03:44, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The article of the higher level cat, Adil Shahi dynasty, was moved to Sultanate of Bijapur, of which there is already a higher level cat for, (or will be soon when CFDS renames Category:Bijapur Sultanate to Category:Sultanate of Bijapur) so this category should be merged with Category:Adil Shahi dynasty, as right now the higher up cat serves no purpose if it does not include the members of the dynasty, which are included here. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:13, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prehistory by country

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The result of the discussion was: option B (Prehistory of Fooland). HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A: Prehistoric Fooland, or
  • B: Prehistory of Fooland?
Nominator's rationale: Numerically, I do not see a major preference in catnames or main article titles, so a speedy rename per WP:C2C or WP:C2D will probably not apply, and we should have a full discussion. As this is an (indirect) follow-up to our recent CFR on Middle Ages by country (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 11#Middle Ages by country), which resulted in a Rename all to Medieval history of Fooland, this precedent would favour option B. But the almost equally high frequency of Prehistoric Fooland including in main article titles should be taken into account. (A case could even be made that a debate should be had on which way WP:TITLECON should lean in the mainspace before we make our decision here, but we didn't do that for Middle Ages by country either). Whichever option we decide, I recommend leaving a redirect for all categories that we decide to rename, just like last time, in order to ease navigation and editing, and prevent duplication. NLeeuw (talk) 09:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy ping to participants of previous discussion: @Marcocapelle, Smasongarrison, Ham II, Omnis Scientia, and HouseBlaster: for your consideration. Good day. NLeeuw (talk) 09:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A: Prehistoric Fooland Johnbod (talk) 13:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, why is that your preference? NLeeuw (talk) 13:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The easiest way to have a consistent naming scheme for all periods would be to have Prehistory of / Ancient history of / Medieval history of / Early modern history of / Modern history of / Contemporary history of Fooland, as I've argued previously. We've begun to move in that direction for medieval and early modern history.

    As NLeeuw rightly notes, though, we haven't really considered consistency with article titles in mainspace for those moves. If we did have mass RMs for the country articles in each of these categories, we might find it being argued that there should be consistency with the article titles Prehistory, Ancient history, Middle Ages, Early modern period, Modern era (which currently has an active RM for moving the title to Modern period edit on 20 July: now closed as no consensus) and Contemporary history. (There are corresponding category names for all of these, with one exception: Category:Modern history.) That could then result in a naming scheme (for article titles at first) of Prehistory of Fooland / Ancient history of Fooland / Fooland in the Middle Ages / Fooland in the early modern period / Fooland in the modern era or Fooland in the modern period or Modern history of Fooland (only the third of these seems very satisfactory to me) / Contemporary history of Fooland.

    With both those possible naming schemes in mind, I'm leaning towards B: Prehistory of Fooland. But it might be better to test the waters first with a mass RM for all articles following whichever of these two styles we think it would be better to change: Prehistoric [place – not necessarily a country] (examples here) or Prehistory of [place] (examples here). If a preference emerged for Prehistoric Fooland over Prehistory of Fooland it wouldn't be a disaster for the naming schemes I've suggested above, as prehistory could be treated as being outside history, which it is. Ham II (talk) 16:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I would lean B because it matches the pattern in the previous Cfd. Both are fine, ultimately, though. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak preference for option B, ultimately they are both well acceptable and it only matters that we are consistent. But given the outcome of the previous discussion it makes sense that we continue along the same line. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option B for consistency with the history categories, which is the only possible way I can think of distinguishing the two options. – Joe (talk) 08:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • As nom, I should add that the rationale for the previous CfR applies even more strongly here: none of these countries existed as such in prehistoric times. Saying "Prehistoric United States" or "Prehistoric Dominican Republic" is nonsensical, as "states" and "republics" didn't exist, let alone those with the names we know them by today. But "Prehistory of United States" works perfectly well, linguistically speaking, because it literally means "the time before the United States existed", although more specifically "the time before written cultures existed on the territory of the current United States". (This was less of a problem in the previous CfR, where we could argue "Medieval France" and "Medieval England" were already a thing, though many other countries not yet, so we still went with Medieval history of Fooland to be on the safe side). This accuracy argument is more important to me than the consistency argument (but not necessarily decisive). NLeeuw (talk) 01:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Prehistory of the United States", which is already the category name, but otherwise I fully agree. Ham II (talk) 06:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Year by category — used with year parameter(s) equals year in page title

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The result of the discussion was: nomination merged to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 13#Category:Year by category — used with year parameter(s) ≠ year in page title
Nominator's rationale: Better grammar; see . Courtesy pings to @Fayenatic london and LaundryPizza03. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Establishments in German cities by year

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename/delete as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is scope for growth in century categories, but year categories are not justified here. – Fayenatic London 11:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Some categories were not tagged; I will do so. If there are no further comments in a week, I would close this as merge/rename/delete as nominated.
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Category:American women artists of Chinese descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't see why we need to have an intersection with gender*occupation*Indian/Chinese descent. Male and women artists are non-diffusiong. Mason (talk) 22:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:50, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scottish emigrants to the Tsardom of Russia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to the first two targets; further discussion of the categorization of Alexander Leslie of Auchintoul can take place at Talk:Alexander Leslie of Auchintoul. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 3x merge for now, this is a very narrow intersection that's not needed for diffusion Mason (talk) 22:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge to the first two merge targets, a one-article category is not helpful for navigation. I am in doubt about the third merge target because there wasn't a Great Britain or United Kkngdom yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:City founders from the Tsardom of Russia

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. These categories are underpopulated, and don't help navigation with the same individual person in them. Mason (talk) 22:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indonesian women religious leaders

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer merge for now. (And nuns are religious works, not leaders) Mason (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Funeral and burial of Abraham Lincoln

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are venues associated with the funeral of Lincoln. Other than the article, the only ones related to Lincoln's funeral are his burial ground and the catafalque which should be moved to Category:Abraham Lincoln. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Populated places disestablished in New Brunswick in 2023

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:2023 disestablishments in New Brunswick. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All of these relate to a single government reform in this year. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Registrars of the Order of the Garter

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete , so rename instead, No prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I will tag the category.
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I would say delete per WP:NONDEF. Its notable to be a Knight or Lady of the Garter but not a register or registrar. I can't even find out if its even a position. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mid-Ohio Conference football templates

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The American Mideast Conference last sponsored football in 1970 when the conference was known as the Mid-Ohio Conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:First women admitted to degrees at Oxford

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Category:Models from London by borough

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Religion in China Redux

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The rationale given by Marcocapelle for the previous CFD back in May:

"in" is an odd preproposition in relation to a dynasty, "under" or "during" makes more sense.

This is usually the case, but as regards China X dynasty is the most common and natural form in English for the name of the state itself. Per the standard for analogous categories, e.g. Category:Religion in the Byzantine Empire, I think reassuming the previous pattern would be ideal. Remsense诉 22:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose, Category:Religion in the Byzantine Empire is not an analogous category because Byzantine does not refer to a dynasty. A good analogous example is Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The state is what is being referred to here, wholly in line with the language used in English-language literature about China. Remsense诉 04:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • A dynasty is something else than a state. If anything, the state is China. With the other example, the Almoravid dynasty, there is no commonly used state name at all, and that is also fine. State names may be derived from the dynasty name, e.g. Sassanid Empire and Sassanid dynasty but that is not the case here either. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I don't mean to be rude, but I feel this is being overly deliberate about universal boundaries between interwoven concepts in a way that, I stress, ignores actual usage. In part, these lexical differences can be ascribed to the distinct paradigms of dynasties in China compared to elsewhere. Byzantium was not really dynastic at its core at all, with the legitimacy of the state always clearly surpassing that of lineages. China was not the opposite per se, it's just that there was a totally different, more consubstantial relationship between the Chinese state and its ruling dynasty.
      Putting an even finer point on the "actual usage" argument: in a fulltext search of my library of China-related books, "under the Han dynasty" appears verbatim at some point in 14 books, while "in the Han dynasty" appears in 91! This ratio is 1:27 for the Shang, 11:21 for the Jin (both represented), 8:67 for the Tang, 6:54 for the Song, 11:42 for the Yuan, 16:52 for the Ming, and 7:51 for the Qing. This must reflect some conventional usage of "dynasty" in the name of a state, right? Remsense诉 05:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Marcocapelle, not to hound, but do you have any thoughts about this? To be clear, there's no lexical weirdness about the dataset above: "X dynasty" is being used as the name of the state in all the results I manually checked. Remsense诉 06:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support per nom. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It doesn't make much sense unless there is a consistent translation issue in these books. I can understand the misunderstanding if Chinese language uses the same word for "dynasty" and "empire" while in English we have two words for it with different meaning. I'm not saying this is the case but it is the only hypothesis I can come up with. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not a "translation issue": most are native English books. Like I've said multiple times, it is the way the states are often referred to in English. I haven't been lying or misspeaking when I've repeatedly said that. I really didn't want to say something this blunt, but this is rather obvious and non-controversial to anyone who's read a little in English about Chinese history, or even China in general. What else would I have to do to demonstrate this fact to you? Remsense诉 02:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Here, to make it more concrete:
Brief usage examples
  • Peter Kornicki (2018), Languages, Scripts, and Chinese Texts in East Asia: Interpreters were certainly needed when China expanded westwards in the Han dynasty (206 BCE – 220 CE), and they were later conscripted to manage encounters between Chinese and Uyghur speakers.
  • Livia Kohn (2000), Daoism Handbook: He distinguishes two major phases, classical Daoism and later Daoism, with the dividing line in the Han dynasty,
  • Chad Hansen (1982), Language and Logic in Ancient China: But sortals did not become grammatically necessary until sometime in the Han Dynasty.
  • Florian Coulmas (1999), The Blackwell Encyclopedia of Writing Systems: This number quadrupled in the Han dynasty and by the twelfth century had soared to about 23,000.
  • Martin Svensson Ekström (2024), The Origins of Chinese Literary Hermeneutics: Naturally, such a reading would still be thoroughly rhetorical since this “peasant-chorus” must be understood as a mere oratorical artifice, organizing the narration of this piece—“simple” peasants in the Zhou Dynasty could hardly have composed such an aristocratic poem.
  • Thierry Meynard & Daniel Canaris (2021), A Brief Response on the Controversies over Shangdi, Tianshen and Linghun During his tenure as superior, his crisis management skills were tested when for the first time in the Ming dynasty the Catholic Church was faced with official prohibition.
  • David E. Mungello (1999), The Great Encounter of China and the West, 1500–1800: Xu was a first grand secretary, perhaps the highest official position in the Ming dynasty.
  • Eliot Weinberger (1987), 19 Ways of Looking at Wang Wei: The relevant essay is 1½ pages long and is devoted to excoriating, in idiosyncratic language, all other translators and scholars of Wang Wei for failing to realize that the last word of the poem had an alternate meaning in the Tang dynasty: 'to rise'.
  • Victor J. Katz (2021), The Mathematics of Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, India, and Islam: The conservative nature of Chinese mathematics is also clear from the way in which classic texts were canonized in the Tang Dynasty, and became the core foundation for the teaching of mathematics,
  • Stephen Little (1988), Realm of the Immortals: The carving of miniature jade mountains reached its height in the Qing dynasty, during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (r. 1736-1795).
  • David A. Palmer & Fabian Winiger, in Kenneth Dean & Peter van der Veer ed. (2018), The Secular in South, East, and Southeast Asia: China in the Qing dynasty (1644–1911) was a highly enchanted society.
Is this helpful at all? If not, I would start being concerned that there's no possible thing I could do to demonstrate that commonplace usage happens to lie outside your personal intuitions in this case. Remsense诉 03:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • English-language historians of China may have adopted the Chinese way of equating dynasties and empires, but that is not how we normally use English language. This is a global encyclopedia, not a Chinese one. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The proposed versions do not feel right grammatically. What I would expect to read under that sort of construction would be something like, eg., "Religion in Shang dynasty‎ China". CMD (talk) 04:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Do the excerpts directly quoted above make you feel similarly? To address your notion head-on: those would not be the COMMONNAMES for these states. The COMMONNAMES for these states are, instead, Shang dynasty, Zhou dynasty, et al. I cannot make this clear enough. Remsense诉 04:07, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As an ancillary but hopefully illustrative point: I prefer in to during here because there were often multiple dynastic states at a given time throughout Chinese history, so it would be potentially somewhat ambiguous if one were to speak of matters during the Song and during the Jin in a context where they were both around but did not begin or end around the same time. I have to reiterate, this is pretty much equivalent to one writing in the Byzantine Empire. Remsense诉 04:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The excerpts above seem to mostly use "in" in a temporal sense, whereas reading the category "in" reads as being used geographically. It is not grammatically equivalent to write about a dynasty as compared to an Empire. CMD (talk) 04:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The COMMONNAMES for the states are exactly as above: that is why the articles for the states are named as such, after much historical deliberation onsite. However, your nuance is well-taken, but I'm not really sure how to cleanly demonstrate usage that can't be characterized as partially temporal, given that these are states that overlap in geographical area and are (mostly) consecutive temporally. Here's one, though:
    • Thomas Mullaney, The Chinese Computer (2024): Chinese telegraphy dates back to 1871, when a newly laid telegraphic cable between Shanghai and Hong Kong linked the Qing dynasty (1644–1911) to a rapidly expanding international network dominated by the British Empire.
    Remsense诉 05:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The common name for the state in all of these cases is "China". Dynasty names are useful tools both as disambiguation and as a simple way to vary the text with a bit of metonymy, but that does not mean the grammar transfers exactly. The example you gave reads fine to me, but it's not the same as what is proposed. Grammar considerations are why I assume all the proposed titles maintain "the", rather than what would be an unusual "Religion in Ming dynasty". Formulations like I noted above or a shorter "Ming China" would keep the same grammar though. CMD (talk) 05:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is more common to say that something happened "in the Ming dynasty" or "during the Ming dynasty" than "under the Ming dynasty", because the phrase "Ming dynasty" most often refers to a state and a time period rather than a set of rulers. I realize this usage may be unfamiliar for people who haven't spent much time reading about Chinese history, but it is what's most common in reliable English-language sources about the subject. It's also not true that The common name for the state in all of these cases is "China" – for instance, the Jin dynasty (1115–1234) constituted only part of China by any reasonable definition, as it coexisted with the Song dynasty among other states. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I want to add that the phrase "(specific religion) during the X dynasty" is also used in articles like Islam during the Song dynasty, Islam during the Ming dynasty, Islam during the Qing dynasty, and Shamanism during the Qing dynasty. On the other hand, the phrase "Religion in the X dynasty" is used in the article Religion in the Song dynasty. --Wengier (talk) 17:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As that article states, the Jin Dynasty "was an imperial dynasty of China". That "during" is the same as "in" seems more evidence that the usage of "in" in such cases is temporal? If the proposal was Category:Religion during the Ming dynasty‎ this would be a different discussion. CMD (talk) 06:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Consistent with the article Religion in the Song dynasty. --Wengier (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Thai television series debuts by decade

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is an umbrella category for a whole slew of subcategories, which each have a slew of subcategories. However, each is sparsely populated. This is a logical area for a navigation template, something that there may be a bot already to populate. I am suggesting we discuss this template with a view to incorporating the whole hierarchy of content into a navigation template. If that discussion reaches that conclusion, then processes should be put in hand to populate the template and depopulate the sub and sub-sub categories, which may then be deleted as empty. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. What? Why would we create a template for unrelated entries that users will likely not ever use? This category system is exactly how this should be handled and how it is handled for other countries - see Category:Television series debuts by country and decade. This is a very strange deletion nomination. Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Baltic Germans

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Category:Bengali cinema

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Category:Jazzland Records (1960) albums

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Category:Acquired citizenship

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Category:18th century in Mozambique

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The result of the discussion was: procedural redirect. Close has already been implemented as a result of the other discussion. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: downmerge, redundant category layer, there isn't any content here that doesn't fall under Portuguese Mozambique. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with it, but can we leave this as a redirect to resolve the template from breaking? Mason (talk) 00:05, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:3rd century in Africa (Roman province)

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Xth century in Roman Africa. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all to ?? century in Roman Africa I populated these categories somewhat. However, in Diocletian's administrative reforms (sometime between 284–305 CE), Africa (Roman province) was split into Africa Zeugitana, Africa Byzacena, and Africa Tripolitania. In 314 CE, these provinces were grouped together along with almost all Roman provinces on the African continent in the Diocese of Africa. Thus there essentially was no Roman province named just "Africa" in the 3rd-5th centuries. With my rename proposal, I suggest the new category scope includes all Roman and Byzantine-controlled areas on the African continent. The people categories need to be renamed as well. Daask (talk) 01:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Rename per Daask; do not delete: Smallcat is best employed when there is no potential for expansion, but these categories have considerable potential for expansion, though they would be better renamed. While merging them is a possibility, that would risk reducing their utility as navigational aids. This may be an area of study that has been neglected on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean there aren't a lot of potential topics under these headings. As far as I know, Roman Africa flourished at least until the time of the Vandal invasion, which would be worthy of multiple topics itself; I believe Belisarius attempted to reclaim Africa from the Vandals, which would seem to merit a topic; and of course it was still inhabited at the time the Muslims swept across it on the way to Spain, and that is a topic or two as well. There may be some articles on Roman governors, petty kings, bishops and religious writers from the region. It makes little sense to delete these categories now only to recreate them under substantially identical names once more articles have been written or added, justifying splitting a bigger category again. P Aculeius (talk) 12:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National military histories by war

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The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. @Marcocapelle, feel free to start a new discussion. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I find this name very confusing. I think, based on the contents, it would be better off as Military history by war and country, and the child categories could be renamed Vietnam War military history by country etc Mason (talk) 04:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Can we close this discussion and start a fresh deletion nomination, or should we discuss deletion now? Meanwhile there are only two subcategories left now and they are quite unrelated, it is highly unlikely that someone would want to navigate from one subcategory to the other. By the way, by deleting the category all content still remains part of the tree of Category:Military history by war. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The purpose of this category is unclear. Some categories were added manually, while others are tagged by Template:Category class — based on the template's source code, this happens if and only if the name is incorrect. 
{{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}{{subst:!}}{{PAGENAME:{{{class}}}{{#ifeq:{{lc:{{{class{{subst:!}}}}}}}{{subst:!}}unassessed{{subst:!}}{{subst:!}}-Class}} {{{topic}}} articles}}{{subst:!}}
   {{subst:!}}[[Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention]]
  }}
–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked WP:AWBREQ to auto-tag all of the categories here that are manually added, almost all of which have only the category listing in their source code. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wait, Category:Template Category class with class parameter not matching title exists. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can {{Category class}} handle pages like Category:Disambig-Class Bihar articles of Low-importance‎? It has both class and importance. Gonnym (talk) 11:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I don't think there is an existing template that covers cateegory navigation for the quality–importance intersection. I'm also seeking to standardize category names fo this type with a recent WP:CFDS for the intersectional ones of WikiProject Amphibians and reptiles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Are you going to tag all 333 categories in Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention? Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Liz: This nomination is only about the parent, not its subcategories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The "manually tagged" ones were added because while this has now faded somewhat, last year in particular there was an absolute epidemic of people making hasty, half-baked "standardization" edits to wikiproject templates that had the side-effect of spewing out new redlinked wikiproject class and importance rating categories (sometimes even for wikiprojects that don't even do importance-rating at all) at an absolutely alarming rate — meaning that as a person who works to clean up categorization errors at Special:WantedCategories, for several weeks I was getting slapped in the face with dozens of those at a time on every new generation of that report.
    They can't just stay red, which means they have to be either created or removed before the next generation of the report 72 hours later — but removing a template-generated category is impossible without either editing the template in ways that surpass my understanding of template-coding infrastructure, and thus likely breaking stuff, or totally reverting the changes that caused the redlinked category to exist in the first place, and thus being disruptive, so my only option was to create all of those categories myself. But creating a class or importance rating category is a more complex process than creating a mainspace category, especially in the cases where I would have had to create the entire importance-rating infrastructure from scratch (which I don't even know how to do), so it would have taken me weeks to do all the work myself — so especially given the sheer amount of crap I was having to deal with, my only realistic option was "do the absolute bare minimum necessary to make the category blue instead of red, and leave it in a place where the experts in wikiproject-rating categorization can fix it": namely, create a virtually blank category that doesn't contain all of the category-making code that a wikiproject assessment category should really contain, and then leave it in a "wikiproject categories that need to be fixed by people who actually know what they're doing" queue.
    There's absolutely nothing on this category that says it's only for naming errors, and there are other kinds of attention that a wikiproject assessment category can need besides naming problems alone — so it makes sense to create the proposed category as a subcategory of this if desired, but it doesn't make sense to move the existing category to this since there can be other legitimate reasons for its use besides naming problems alone. Bearcat (talk) 14:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why not automate the creation and labeling of these categories? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That would have to be done by somebody who knows how to do that, wouldn't it? Said somebody would not be me, so while those should be automated I'm not the one who can do that. Bearcat (talk) 13:33, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm fine with splitting the incorrect names subcategory with the template-categorized system through Template:Category class and Template:Category importance, and leaving this category here. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hijacked journals

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Category:Members of the Fourth Aliyah

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Category:Kaguya-hime

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Category:People by era in Rivers State

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This is a redundant category layer Mason (talk) 13:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:User talk archives

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unknowing recreation, in 2016, of a category created in 2006 which was deleted at CfD in 2008. Same rationale applies now as in the nomination back then - it's not useful for navigation or collaboration to group disparate user talk archives.  — Scott • talk 12:26, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Comedy video games

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Category:Russian Orthodox Church, Baku diocese

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one article and one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Churches under the Baku diocese

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The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename to align with Category:Russian Orthodox churches by country. Note that the territory of the Diocese of Baku and Azerbaijan coincides with the country of Azerbaijan. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video game franchises by narrative genre

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Category:Fajemirokun family

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. There are only two people in this family, which could be interlinked if it was clear how they were related. Mason (talk) 01:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:NBC LX Home affiliates

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Category:Nintendo controversies

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is terrible, for several reasons:

- Contains a bunch of loosely unrelated content, only defined by "being related to Nintendo", even some that Nintendo, the video game company, was not even in involved in, such as the Burger King one, as well as the other Pokémon ones, especially the ones about the anime.

- The category already overlaps with other Controversies categories.

- We could start a new category to divide the Pokémon controversies, but we cannot, we currently do not have any categories for controversies over a specific media franchise, and in turn never should.

If we delete this category, we will need undo some of Blakegripling_ph's edits for which he changed.

Also, if you insist on retaining this category by making a similar category like "Works taken down by Nintendo", we don't, because information on this topic should better be located in the article "Intellectual property protection by Nintendo". QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Royal National Institute for the Blind alumni

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a charity which, as far as I can tell, supports blind people but isn't a school. In any case, there is only one article in here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Irish blind musicians

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Category:Survivors of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOTDEFINING. I don't see how being a survivor of this particular shooting is a defining characteristic of these individuals, as they were all notable prior to the shooting taking place. Di (they-them) (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree per the nomination and would like to add that the category sounds to me like these people survived getting shot rather than having been present at the event, so if this is kept, I would modify the category to something clearer like "People present at the attempted assassination of Donald Trump". Upjav (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wander Over Yonder

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains two articles. No good merge targets. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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History of Brussels by period

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, this part of the history of Brussels tree overlaps entirely with Category:Centuries in Brussels, furthermore it is highly inaccurate. For example the Dutch period lasted only from 1815 to 1830 but the whole 19th century has been put under it. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Quota reform protest in Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Same category. Mehedi Abedin 06:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Villains in mythology and legend

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Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia

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Category:Current roller hockey seasons

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Empty and not enough possible articles to justify it as a subcat to "current sporting seasons". Pelmeen10 (talk) 03:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Boxing matches at Madison Square Garden

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

.:* Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Wembley Arena to Category:Boxing matches in London

Nominator's rationale: Per the recent discussion and WP:OCVENUE. User:Namiba 16:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly oppose Removing these Categories will severely overpopulate the populated place pages User:Sam11333 16:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only one to which that might apply is the Las Vegas Valley and even that won't be massive.--User:Namiba 16:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there is any doubt on that one!
I can't see the logic in removing the venue categories, given that WP:OCVENUE states that "categories that indicate how a specific facility is regularly used in a specific and notable way" can be appropriate. I would argue that a boxing match falls under that description. Sam11333 (talk) 17:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Including these arenas in the boxing venues category is fine. But OCVENUE and the recent consensus I've cited is very clear "avoid categorizing events by their hosting locations".--User:Namiba
Tagging editors who commented on the most recent discussion User:Marcocapelle, User:Omnis Scientia, User:Epicgenius, User:Flibirigit.--User:Namiba 19:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Constitutionalism

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category. The category creator really needs to slow down with the creation of narrow/non-defining categories. Mason (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on deletion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with deletion. (I struggled to pick a merge target. But I try to always at least propose one)Mason (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Counts of Geneva

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Counts of Geneva

Category:Bedouin businesspeople

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Bedouin businesspeople

Category:Brainwashing theory proponents

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Brainwashing theory proponents

Category:Video games with expansion packs

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Video games with expansion packs

Category:Palestinian bedouins

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Palestinian bedouins

Category:19th-century feminists

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:19th-century feminists


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Category:Video game fandom

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Totally withdrawn by nominator, no opposition. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is redundant, we already have "Video game culture" with already covers the video game subculture, comprising all the fans. This category is actually pointless, so it can merged with that category or just deleted. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 21:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1370 in Brussels

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Category:Fictional puppets

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The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Created by a blocked disruptive user. When the category is purged of all irrelevant pages that are not about individual characters or objects, there are not enough articles to support such a specific category. Per WP:OVERLAPCAT it should be merged to the parent. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pet insurance

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The result of the discussion was: rename and reorganize. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Four out of five entries are insurance companies/providers, and the fifth is the main topic. I don't see anything else that would be worth including here, so I figure refiguring the scope of the cat, moving it to Category:Insurance companies, upmerging said main topic to Category:Types of insurance, and including it via {{catmain}} would be sensible. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Bangles video albums

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:03, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Sole entry is a non-notable redirect. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. This redirect goes to an article in Category:The Bangles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kingdom Hearts original characters

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