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Original – A mantled guereza portrait (Colobus guereza) at Lagos Zoo, Portugal.Offering version
Reason
High resolution, good quality picture with high EV of a mantled guereza showing its facial features, including the frame of white hair and it has bushy cheek hairs.
Comment Oppose – Thirty-five years ago Mr. Banīsadr was president for 16 months. Since then he's lived the émigré life in France. Pic is five years old. Sca (talk) 13:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose ISO rating is 3,200 ! It is absolutely unnecessary and unacceptable for a studio portrait. You can see in the result large view: very noisy (extreme noise hardly let recognize the face is unsharp and only hair is on focus). Poor quality. Monfie (talk) 16:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Monfie. The very high ISO setting is an inexplicable major technical error (even people who are new to high-end photography know not to do this, especially as there's no reason to do so with when using an excellent camera such as the Canon EOS 5D Mark II in a studio), and renders the photo blury at anything less than thumbnail size. As there's no offsetting strong EV (the photo shows Mr Banisadr 30 years after the end of his presidency, and 20 years after his book was published) the FP criteria clearly aren't met. Nick-D (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I largely agree with you about the image quality, but I don't think this was taken in a studio. It was taken with a 300mm lens and 1/200th of a second at ISO 3200. Anything ISO significantly less than that would probably result in camera shake. My guess is that it was taken from a press gallery or something like that, as the file description says it was taken at the University of Hamburg. The EXIF data says subject distance of 6 metres. That's definitely not a studio environment. Ðiliff«»(Talk)23:06, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that correction Diliff. The photographer certainly deserves full marks for composition in that case, but the image quality isn't of FP standard. Nick-D (talk) 23:11, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Even if it is not in studio, it is nighter in dark cave with no flash restriction nor a high speed motorcycle which justify ISO set to more than 100.Monfie (talk) 08:04, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Having used a 60D for the past 2 years, I am impressed by the noise handling of the 5D at 3200. I'd have denoised a bit and downsampled, but the quality is there. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:34, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I can tell you, that's not the native output of a 5D Mk ii at ISO 3200. Definitely there's some strong noise reduction applied in post-processing (the skin texture is a bit plasticy), but yes even so, the noise levels are much less than with a crop sensor. Ðiliff«»(Talk)13:48, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support He's a bit theatrical about it all; it's just a little knife in the heart; don't go on about it; you are supposed to be a big tough warrior. Belle (talk) 14:54, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, with two points. First, "minor" opera? Ahem. I can think of far minor-er ones in his output. Second, I'd just like to note that the only time I've seen this was on video, and I swear Odabella stabbed him in the thigh instead of the chest in the final scene. For all the difference it made. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa.20:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think Verdi has enough on the exalted level that - for him - a "minor opera" can be a pretty high bar. For example, Rigoletto, Il trovatore, La traviata, Un ballo in maschera, La forza del destino, Aida, Otello, Falstaff. And that's ignoring a lot of operas like Macbeth and Stiffelio that are pretty near that level of popularity. Otherwise, what would count as a minor opera for him? Un giorno? Adam Cuerden(talk)21:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I nominate this picture because it's a wonderful painting, and because I'd like to see more illustration on Wikipedia, especially portraits. You might disagree, but I invite you to judge this picture on its own merits.
I read the criteria and submit this nomination without reference to them. You of course should follow them if that's what you hold by.
Oppose - per Crisco, and also I think illustrations are only appropriate when photographs are not available for strictly encyclopaedic reasons. It may look more aesthetically pleasing but accuracy is paramount so a photograph will always win. Mattximus (talk) 02:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Uncle Lubin in his flying machine by W. Heath Robinson (1902). Uncle Lubin has many adventures while searching for his little nephew including tangling with a sea monster and travelling to the moon; then again, who hasn't done that?
Reason
W. Heath Robinson is the British Rube Goldberg but as well as outlandish devices for accomplishing everyday tasks he also wrote and illustrated some children's book of which The Adventures of Uncle Lubin is my favourite. This is picture is probably the best for showing Uncle Lubin himself, but maybe one day some brave person will nominate the whole set of illustrations from Uncle Lupin as they are all fantastic (in both senses of the word)
Articles in which this image appears
Just W. Heath Robinson at the moment; Chris Woodrich will no doubt try to bully me into doing an article on the book and I'm easily bullied.
Sadly I must oppose owing to harsh JPG artefacting, as well as poor sourcing ("books" doesn't help much").23:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I can't see any JPG artefacting... it could be a tiny bit sharper, but artefacts? Still though - I'll abstain from voting until better sourcing is provided SkywalkerPL (talk) 21:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the area where the lines are close together. It may not be readily visible at 100%, but they are there, and causing the unsharpness in that area. 06:16, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Support – Excellent scan backed up by sufficient EV - apparently this portrait was described by an art historian as the "most beautiful painting of Denmark's Golden Age". SagaciousPhil - Chat11:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC) Simply copy/pasted my comment from previous nom as my opinion hasn't changed.[reply]
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Original – Act IV, Scene III [I have no idea what the scene divisions are meant to be] in the 1884 Milan version of Giuseppe Verdi's Don Carlo
Reason
An authentic, contemporary... I think poster; it's about 8.5 x 11" (27.5 x 21,5 cm) - of the première of the Milan version of Don Carlo. Coloured in the slightly slapdash way ephemera often was, but it's mostly pretty good; floor could be better, but... y'know, authenticity forbids.
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Original – The front page of The Washington Post on July 21st, 1969, and an interested reader.
Reason
An illustration of popular interest in Apollo 11 which is the lede image for the relevant Wikipedia article. The photo itself has an interesting story. User:CarolSpearsUser:Rufus330Ci says, "This is a picture of my mother holding the Washington News Paper on Monday, July 21st 1969 stating 'The Eagle Has Landed. Two Men Walk on the Moon'. The photo was taken by my grandfather." The picture is already featured on Commons.
Comment I don't suffer from copyright paranoia, just wonder whether The Washington Post here is copyrighted and as such might be a derivative work. Brandmeistertalk07:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
What part of that paper is copyrighted would probably be de minimis. Both images are PD-NASA, and the text of the article is illegible even at full resolution. The logo is PD-Text... only thing left is the headlines, and that's definitely de minimis. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Cool capture – from the last days in which newspapers still contained news. (The old journalist in me asks, should we could we identify the subject? Name would lend authenticity.) Sca (talk) 14:40, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Per the FPC rules, "anonymous votes are generally disregarded" and "only [users] who have been on Wikipedia for 25 days and with at least 100 edits will be included in the numerical count." As such, I have stricken your !vote. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:01, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but also note that good-faith comments from IPs are welcome even if they cannot vote. I think that one IP commentator eventually converted to a registered user awhile back after a series of good interactions with the community here. (: --Pine✉02:36, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Yes, the girl did tilt the paper, but if she hadn't you wouldn't be able to tell what she was reading. And it's not like she's pretending to read it, she seems interested. Rainbow unicorn (talk) 20:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
She looks like she just got outta bed, or maybe she just had her Fruit Loops – posed perhaps, but doesn't look stilted to me. Sca (talk) 21:48, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - unfortunately. Scanned from a printed page, raster screen very visible. (PS: Aardman Animation got him pretty portrait-like in "Pirates!") --Janke | Talk06:36, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Persian Silk Brocade, Brocade weaver: Master Seyyed Hossein Mozhgani. 1974 A.D. the Ministry of Culture and Art. Honarhaye Ziba workshop. There is Persian motif on textile.
Criteria for nomination is minimum 1500 X 1500 pixels. This is 2,000 × 1,379 therefore 1 of the sides is below minimum res. gazhiley14:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support On account of a high quality image, but the EV is very small, since it's primary article is a stub that is not very well written. Mattximus (talk) 21:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Dramatic lighting, historical EV fairly well explained by target article. (NOTE: Zollverein means "customs union," a term from 19th C. German history.) Sca (talk)
Comment - The EV is not clear as it is buried in a gallery. Are there any other pages this is found in? If not, I'm not sure about the encyclopedic value of the image. Mattximus (talk) 13:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is true, but it requires encyclopaedic content to match. In a traditional encyclopaedia you would not see this picture unless there is something written about it. The way it stands it's illustrating an example from a photographer, buried in a gallery. Which is why I question the EV, not the historic value of the image. Mattximus (talk) 21:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and placed the featured crop in the main article, I think it's much better than the strange vertical orientation. Which means I would have to oppose this nomination as the crop is already featured. Mattximus (talk) 21:34, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It is Bufotes balearicus per our early analysis and the confusion is due to a syn. Bufo viridis balearicus[1]. It may be nice to ask for an expert opinion. Jee14:33, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The Kiss by Edvard Munch, an 1897 realization of the motif of two people kissing each other. In this oil painting on canvas, their bodies merge, fuse to become one, which has been interpreted as symbolizing both unity and a loss of identity.
Reason
High quality scan of this interesting painting. A symbolist painting, with a dreamy quality representing one of Munch primary motif, a couple kissing, painted with fluid brushstokes, almost entirely held in dark colors, except for the small silvery triangle of the window.
Support as co-nominator In my opinion, the painting has a certain sinister atmosphere, thanks to the dark coloring and the lack of the peoples identity, comparable with The scream... –Hafspajen (talk) 23:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Nicholas Lanier was the court musician and composer in the service of King Charles I and Charles II. He was also a singer, lutenist, scenographer and a painter himself. Van Dyck’s portraits range intimate works to grand, monumental portraits. The artist’s portrait gallery is a real document of his time, and presents us with a living image of the artist’s contemporaries.
Reason
Good painting, good painter, nice details. Nicholas Lanier was an English composer; the very first to hold the title of Master of the King's Music (k) from 1625 to 1666, of the total 21 people who ever had it. The title is still in use, as Master of the Queen's Music, today. It was Lanier who, when this portrait was painted by the Flemish painter van Dyck, convinced the King to bring Van Dyck to England, where he became the leading court painter.
Oppose Nice reproduction but it looks like Van Dyck hadn't reached his peak of painting right arms at this point. Lanier's shoulder is about two feet away from his neck and then there is a strange skew in his upper arm before it meets his Popeyesque forearm; there does seem to be a line in the wall indicating where the shoulder should be though; weird. Belle (talk) 13:07, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent condition for a 400 year old coin. The wolf and the Duke appear to be indulging in a staring contest for some reason... Lemon martini (talk) 00:07, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support she might getting ready for a board meeting though; I'm sure her entire life doesn't revolve around looking for a mate and having children; she's a frog though so maybe it does. Belle (talk) 12:54, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I like this design because it reminds me of stages I've acted on. It mixes practicality with attractiveness, and thus can illustrate not only the opera, but set design itself. Also, it's a stage design for a Victorian opera performance that we have in enough detail that we could reconstruct it today. That's actually really awesome. I went with the wider design, though I can prove an alt (from Gallica - they have a zoomed-in photo) if desired. They have a LOT of photos of this.
Comment - How is the photograph itself PD? The photograph is clearly recent; a 100 y.o. photograph would not be able to pick up this much color detail. This is not a 2D image, so PD-Art doesn't apply. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Crisco 1492: As I at least tried to say on the image page, the library itself declares this image public domain, so PD by release. I checked on Commons about this, and that does appear to be the general opinion. If you can phrase that better, please do. Adam Cuerden(talk)07:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Halo'd along entire top line of the body, but not enough of a distraction to oppose. Detail on subject is good. gazhiley09:16, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – As the early settlements grew into established cities and towns, the bush life that colonial settlers were living became a symbol of the nation's identity, an uniquely Australian way of living and a part of the national heritage. Art critics of the time said of the painting: "...the best illustration which has yet been given of one of the most characteristic scenes of Australian life" [The Argus 31st May 1890], and another declared that ..."Shearing the Rams is a work by which Mr. Roberts name will always be remembered" [Table Talk 30th May, 1890].
Reason
A good scan, EV, interesting theme and a famous painting, was widely regarded as an iconic depiction of a strong masculine labor(details). Not many Australian art FP so far. Australian painter Tom Roberts (1856 – 1931), was an influential member of the Australian art movement called Heidelberg School.why Heidelberg?The painting is depicting sheep shearers, described as "the most characteristic and picturesque of the shearers and rouseabouts". He painted many of Australia's early colonists, pioneer settlers, rural labour, shearers, swagmen and mountain horsemen; fighting with the hardships of the rough environment.
Comment My colour-blindness makes me ill-suited to pass comment on a scan, but I can address the nominator's comment above "Why Heidelberg" — the movement was named after Heidelberg, Victoria, the locality near Melbourne where many of the artists camped and painted en plein air. Heidelberg, Victoria was, of course, named after Heidelberg in Germany. I prefer the name "Australian impressionism" for the movement as it is more descriptive, more inclusive (many associated works were painted elsewhere by artists with no direct ties to Heidelberg, Victoria) and less confusing for non-Australians. Very pleased to see this nomination, however. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 00:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – very nice scan of interesting painting; provides plenty of EV, especially from the informative article on the painting itself. SagaciousPhil - Chat11:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I hate to be a pain, but this seems to be a professional-quality portrait uploaded by someone claiming to be the subject- I think we may be missing some author/copyright information. Josh Milburn (talk) 12:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I added "no permission tag"; so the file will be deleted from Commons unless permission is provided within seven days. Jee07:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Cropping. Shame, cause otherwise everything seems to be about right with that shot. Should be easy Quality Image badge, but we need a bit better for Featured. SkywalkerPL (talk) 21:34, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose top of head missing. 'So SOMEONE finally gets a monkey picture like she's been begging for and are they grateful.No they're not. 'Where's the hat?Why is there no hat?'Hats hats hats always with the hats.On and on and on..zzz...'Lemon martini (talk) 23:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't know what is the matter with Lemon martini; seems obsessed with monkeys in hats, poor thing. Obviously I'm opposing because the hat has been cut out, but there's no need to get worked up about it. Belle (talk) 00:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
High resolution, good quality picture with high EV of a rock ptarmigan showing its summer plumage on Mount Tsubakuro, Japan. These birds change their camouflage seasonally, from white in winter to brown in summer.
Support Not normally a fan of pictures of subjects with this sort of backdrop ie interesting to the point of potential distraction, but in this case it helps the EV of the bird as it has similar coloured feathers to the rocks on the left, and demonstrates a certain level of camoflage. Technically good picture IMO... gazhiley08:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Black-tailed godwit is a large, long-legged, long-billed shorebird first described by Carolus Linnaeus in 1758. It is a member of the Limosa genus, the godwits. There are three subspecies, all with orange head, neck and chest in breeding plumage and dull grey-brown winter coloration, and distinctive black and white wingbar at all times.
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Original – Panicle of Polypogon monspeliensis Polypogon monspeliensis commonly known as annual beard-grass or annual rabbitsfoot grass, is a species of grass. It is native to southern Europe, but it can be found today throughout the world as an introduced species and sometimes a noxious weed.
Support. A bit noisy in the background and the article could do with a bit of filling out, but otherwise a very interesting and well taken shot. Ðiliff«»(Talk)23:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
High quality, high EV, very choice condition. This multilingual titled and denominated 5 Swiss Franc note was part of the second issue from the Swiss National Bank.
Oppose staged photo that reveals nothing about the subject's personality or occupation for which is notable. No significant EV. --ELEKHHT00:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - It does reveal it alright, he is in fashion. Article say "Indian fashion choreographer, contest trainer and model "... I could tell imediatelly the guy has style and elegance, probably a filmstar or fashion. The Fab Five would have giving him a high score... :) about EV, it's a lead pic... more than this one can't ask for. Hafspajen (talk) 01:02, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
ELEKHH & Alborzagros, the article is about a person and the photograph is of that person. I don't think we can strictly illustrate the profession of the person with a photograph unless he is an athlete, performer etc.. Hafspajen also explained it in a better way. You may kindly have a look at this, it does not show that he is the President but a good portrait, the same way this nomination was made. Hope you are convinced and would reconsider your vote. DreamSparrowChat18:29, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I consistently opposed FPC images like this (example), not only because of lack of EV but also because I think they are not entirely consistent with WP:NPOV. The same way we don't feature articles with promotional text, we shouldn't feature promotional staged images. The Obama example (not promoted) is marginally better as at least has the flag in the background providing some context. --ELEKHHT22:55, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
ELEKHH, you mean to say this is marginally better because of the flag background ? Then how would you consider these 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, are they having significant EV ? My only concern is, its very difficult to get a good portrait of these kind of people since they will be covered with a lot of people when they are in a public meeting, at least the effort we put would be considered right ? DreamSparrowChat05:40, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Is their notability simply a product of their persona, or of society's appreciation of them? If the second, than is it their appearance in the public sphere, or a staged portrait more relevant? Are they icons, or humans with qualities appreciated by the public? -ELEKHHT13:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – German tennis player Annika Beck competing in the second round of the 2015 Wimbledon Qualifying Tournament at the Bank of England Sports Grounds in Roehampton, England.
Comment – Primary EV would be numismatic. Target article's text doesn't discuss this coin; description of it confined to infobox (and taken from Commons file description). Perhaps more info could be gleaned from the French WP entry? (Je ne parle....) Sca (talk) 22:09, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent quality image. If its claim to fame is being the largest gold coin of ancient times,does some sort of scale need to be added? The size isn't immediately obvious from the picture or the caption Lemon martini (talk) 23:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I am not too happy with that frame thing, if it can be cropped out - it's good. But we have no cubists, so we need some. It's not a bad painting. Hafspajen (talk) 15:10, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – To my untrained eye there's something rather congested about this fairly early Monet composition, which in an art-history sense may make it more interesting. Sca (talk) 21:57, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support I was going to nominate this (until Chris destroyed my confidence and hopes and dreams by dissing my last two nominations :P) Belle (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm a bit torn on this one. It's technically excellent as a basic portrait, but compositionally it's very average and she looks quite awkward. I really think the photographer should have gone for more of a head shot or gone a bit wider with a more characterful standing pose. I'm far from an expert portrait shooter but I'd never ask someone to stand arms by their side looking like a deer in headlights. ;-) Ðiliff«»(Talk)01:27, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Overall I'm not too keen on most of the Royal Society portraits (same reason, basically... that and the blatant dust spots a lot have) but this one turned out okay. There's resolution to make a crop, so I'll try a standard headshot crop. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:24, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A MH-53 Pave Low from the 20th Special Operations Squadron at Hurlburt Field, Florida
Reason
Pictured here is a Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low helicopter of the 20th Special Operations Squadron on maneuvers stateside. Its an interesting image of a now retired heavy lift helicopter, and its reasonably large enough that I figured to give it a shot here at FPC for a star.
...yeah. Like I said, reasonably large enough, but there is room for improvement (lol; sorry, couldn't type that with a straight face :-) TomStar81 (Talk) 03:37, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Blades cut off, but also focus very soft on front of the beautiful machine... :P Oh and well below minimum spec?! gazhiley09:56, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As a techincal note to those voting, its not strictly true that the image is below the 1500x1500 mandate, as one side clocks in at a little over 1700px, so its only short on the one side, and then not by that much. Still though, below minimum is below minimum.
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Original – Native American woman war chief Pretty Nose, who participated in the Battle of Little Big Horn in 1876. Photographed in 1879, she is wearing cloth dress with woven cloth belt and buffalo robe, as well as earrings, bracelet, rings and necklace.
Reason
Good quality for a 1870s photo. An interesting tidbit: while she fought against United States, her grandson served in the US military and she witnessed his return from Korean War, aged 101.
Support Even though Chris' crop takes it below the minimum size requirements ("even though"; I'm so generous with my interpretation of the rules; send chocolates). Belle (talk) 13:52, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Four flavors of Balisto bars, a type of wholemeal biscuit bar snack manufactured by Mars, consisting of a digestive biscuit centre and a variety of milky cream toppings, and coated in milk chocolate.
Reason
Useful product photography of a chocolate bar I've never tried. Please note that the packaging is so simple that it doesn't pass the threshold of originality in the US, and thus can be freely licensed.
Oppose I don't buy the "so simple" justification; think of the poor designer having their work dissed thus, and if it is truly so simple that it doesn't pass the threshold of originality, we aren't getting much EV out of it; I agree with Brandmeister that we really need to see the biscuits; or preferably eat them. Belle (talk) 09:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't think the designer's work is being dissed, it's just a technical delineation about what can and can't be copyrighted. But yes, seeing the wrapper isn't enough for me either, It would be much more useful to see what's inside. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They had one group of marketing consultants analyzing the i-to-s juncture, and another on the t-and-o situation. The latter were paid more cuz their decision was final. Sca (talk) 13:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, considering I've never had the bar in my life (having not even been to Europe). I just thought that these packaged examples have greater EV than an open one because, in the long run, one chocolate bar is going to look a lot like another. Unless we split it in half. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking a bar broken open (so you can see the inside) poking out of an opened wrapper would be perfect; then you could see everything relevant; of course it would be best if there was a woman in a comfy sweater curled up on a sofa delicately nibbling on the corner and smiling coquettishly while pushing a crumb into her mouth with a perfectly manicured finger; that's how we always eat chocolate. Belle (talk) 13:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I dare say you want to be the model, Belle? Seriously though, if I had the chance I'd probably do it like that. I might do a shot like this for ordinary Pocky if I ever manage to get through the rest of the images from my last shoot. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In the absence of any boring factual information about Belle, I always imagined her as a kind of Nigella Lawson (a British cooking show celebrity renown for her sensual talk about food, as parodied in this video! Oh, warning, NSFW.) - and that description by Belle above only reinforces it! ;-) Ðiliff«»(Talk)15:06, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Not sure I've ever seen anything this sharp come out naturally. I have tagged a concerning area for you to look at. The quality is otherwise excellent, however. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:41, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:Alborzagros you wont be able to enjoy that anyway, its not Hipeastrum where stemas are big like each flower here and even more. Do you realize what size are you looking at ? --PetarM (talk) 12:32, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's a pity there are no photos of the plant in the article as it has a quite pretty form, but this is a very good close up of the flower heads. Belle (talk) 01:52, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original The lute player is depicted probably while tuning her instrument, before a concert. The textures and the surfaces are painted with careful precision. The dramatic lighting with sharp contrasts between the light and the shadows makes the figure pronounced and eye-catching an gives an intriguing atmosphere to the painting. It is hosted by the National Gallery of Art, USA.
Reason
EV, lead picture in four articles, a good scan - The Lute Player (Orazio Gentileschi) is a Baroque painting from 1626 by Italian painter Orazio Gentileschi. The painting depicts a woman playing the lute. Orazio Gentileschi is know for being a talented painter and for being the father of an even more famous painter, her daughter, Artemisia Gentileschi. Orazio Gentileschi had a more refined, subtle and softer, less dramatic style than his daughter. (The painting possibly depictsFrancesca Caccini, a famous Italian composer, singer, lutenist, and poet of the early Baroque era, who is know for being the first woman who ever wrote an opera. Looks like this information has so far no reliable sources)
Comment - What is your source for your assertion that the sitter is Francesca Caccini? You made this assertion at Francesca Caccini a few days ago without providing a source, and then at your article start citing the NGA, but that source makes no mention of Caccini. A search on the internet gives no sources, though it's true that Caccini was a friend of Artemisia. Presumably an outstanding Wikipedia editor of your status pays some attention to WP:VERIFY (or perhaps there comes a point where the elite don't have to?). Would you care to enlighten us lesser folk, or failing that explain yourself? Thank you.138.199.74.80 (talk) 18:39, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You can leave out the character slurs if you genuinely want an answer; do it again and I'll smack your hand with a ruler; you might think I don't know who you are, but that just means you'll have to live in fear, never knowing when I might strike. Belle (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ouph ... I'm almost tempted not to strike out. Apologies. But it is frustrating, and it's not as if this is the first time this sort of thing has happened in this group. An editor has now come on to the article (perhaps you know her too?) to clean up. But there are still issues. It's not my period at all, but a single glance suffices to show this a very non-Caraveggio like painting: it's just the subject which was the influence. What's the betting we don't soon have a DYK about Caccini being the sitter here? The editor does need to show good faith and explain himself. Look at the next "support", where it's simply accepted despite this comment. To repeat there is no evidence that Caccini was the sitter, nor is it suggested anywhere in the sources that can be gleaned from the web (and a major one is the Judith W. Mann source I copied over from Orazio Gentileschi: that's available in full with just this painting as its bookcover where Caccini is mentioned not once). And the assertion was made with a citation that didn't verify. I've seen it said by purist content creators that that is THE cardinal sin in Wikipedia, worse even than being a sock (ugh the nasty, smelly things). 138.199.74.80 (talk) 03:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have traced the origin of the attribution to the Dutch wikipedia here. As I pointed out on the Talk page of the article it was queried on the internet here. Can we now have Hafspajen's explanation please? As a matter of good faith he needs to provide one. 138.199.74.80 (talk) 04:47, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I mean I don't want to embarrass Hafspajen. He's obviously proud of what he's achieved to reach Master Editor status and he's acquired a devoted following who won't hold a lapse against him. I'm content that what goes on in Featured Pictures stays in Featured Pictures. But there is an issue here, a basic one of WP:VERIFY and I would say of integrity as well. The suspicion (I'm not saying that it is the case, but it is a suspicion that arises) has to be that Hafs deliberately misrepresented this image as a portrait of Francesca Caccini. He needs to explain himself. Was he taking that Dutch article on good faith? Well then, he should say so and explain why. But he has to show good faith here. He has to step forward and his fellows have to show good faith as well and not protect him. If Hafs doesn't explain himself then I think I'm justified in taking it to his Talk page and putting it on his record. And incidentally, something should be done about editing this nomination to get rid of the entirely spurious Caccini attribution. Hafs should be doing something about that as well. 138.199.71.195 (talk) 09:31, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we get your point and it is a valid one; give Hafs time to respond; we don't need the issue reiterated just to allow you a few sly digs [dons ninja gear; sharpens ruler (yes, you read it right: "sharpens ruler")] Belle (talk) 09:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but my initiating IP was blocked by the administrator here, so you will forgive me I'm sure if I suspected a cover-up. And there's a fine line between a humorous threat and a real threat, Belle,and I think most would agree you just crossed it with your post. Cross back and stay back. My offer stands: we can sort this here once and for all ('cos we too want our place in the sun) or it's going onto his Talk page and onto his record sheet. I'll look in tomorrow. Hafs has to respond. He can't just walk away from these situations and seek the protection of administrators. 138.199.71.195 (talk) 12:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"I think most would agree you just crossed it with your post"; how silly; are you really shaking in fear imagining me somehow creeping around the Internet dressed as a ninja with a sharpened ruler ready to smack you on the hand? Just so you know: I'm not really going to do that. Your query is good but the histrionics are rather a turn-off. Belle (talk) 13:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's silly and it's scarcely histrionic, at least not by the standards indulged by at least one member of this group I know of. I ask you to indulge me however distasteful you find it, equally newbies (whatever your evident suspicions may be). Is Hafs going to respond here? I'm making a generous offer: basically have me inside pissing out of his tent rather than outside pissing into it. What say you Hafs? All I want is some sort of assurance that you'll admit your mistakes when you make them and accept criticism in a constructive sort of way. I've found the origin of this BTW. Caccini's music is still played today and her CDs are often illustrated by this painting. Easy mistake to make. One good thing to come out of this is that I actually listened to some of her music. This is her chaconne. One rather can't manage Johann's oneself, but I might download Francesca and have a go. This is an absolutely gorgeous performance of Bertali's. 138.199.77.183 (talk) 05:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support sharp clear image of a noted musician. The caption itself needs a little tidying up for spellchecking-'father' for 'fater','and' for 'an' and would 'musicians' be preferable to 'musicants'(I'm not familiar with that word).And as for Belle lurking about waiting to strike,was she doing it the other night? SOMETHING was rustling about behind the dustbins.I assumed it was next door's cat.I'm keeping a wary eye on that hedge now... Lemon martini (talk) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - An absolutely stunning painting, my compliments to the uploader for providing such a quality image. My objection is not to the image, but to the attribution of the sitter as Francesca Caccini. There is a serious dispute over this attribution at Talk:The Lute Player (Orazio Gentileschi) and our article on Caccini outright states "there is no evidence that Caccini was the sitter in this portrait." The National Gallery of Art does not identify the sitter on on its page for the painting nor in this video on the painting. The sitter is not identified in this 2001 exhibition catalogue from the Metropolitan Museum of Art nor in any other book I could find with a cursory search. If we are going to definitely identify the sitter in Wikipedia's voice it should be properly sourced or the claim removed before it is promoted as one of Wikipedia's best examples of quality content, as it should be once this issue is settled. Gamaliel (talk) 02:32, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I imagine that the Portal:Opera can give anyone interested the references and books they based the DYK on: |Portal:Opera/DYK/7, or maybe Voceditenore who wrote our DYK and used the picture there Template:Did you know nominations/Andrea Salvadori[2] can explain it why. It has to be some reason why all interwiki articles on her use this painting, also music note covers and videos. And it is still not a reason to oppose, because we judge the painting, made by Orazio Gentileschi, and if there is no evidence that the depicted person is Francesca Caccini, then we simply state that she might be (for whatever reason they use this picture everywhere) or she is probably not. The painting is called the The Lute Player - and it might or might not depict Francesca Caccini, that's not a crucial point here. There are many artworks that are titled simply "Portrait of a man" or "Portrait of a woman". We don't know for sure who Mona Lisa was either, for example, that doesn't mean the painting is not good. Judging a FP is more about composition, colours, scan quality and such, and is that is what matters. Hafspajen (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Got the idea" is not quite what we're about. You cited the National Gallery of Art in your various preparatory edits on Wikipedia and Commons, but they make no mention of Caccini. In your edit above you say possibly depicts, but that needs citing too if it is not to be just your original research, "your idea". I don't believe it's ever been suggested the young lady is Caccini. The very idea that this allegory depicting a young woman with her bodice loosed, suggesting matters amorous as well as musical, an eons-old alliance, is a portrait of anyone is completely ludicrous. Of course no one of the age sitting for Gentileschi would have allowed herself to be depicted in such a fashion. I'm not withdrawing my oppose in the circumstances. Ayesha23 (talk) 21:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, the information about Francesca Caccini was in the lead, and it come from several other places on Wikipedia, identifying Caccini with this picture. The lead doesn't need sources. The source from the NGA was supporting the fact that the painting was one of Orazio Gentileschi's most famous paintings, that information was removed and tagged... About the speculation on her dress .... Oratio was painting plain nudes in abundance. Hafspajen (talk) 08:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]
Yes, I absolutely agree. That's very well put. I should be happy to withdraw my "oppose" if the nomination is edited to remove the statement that Caccini was the sitter. The painting has educational value in its own right, but as it stands it would be a travesty to let the nomination of this very famous painting go forward. I would be happy to provide an edit if the nominating editor doesn't object, but obviously I can't do that without their consent. Ayesha23 (talk) 06:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not opposed because we don't know who the sitter is, I'm opposed if we identify her as definitely one person when we're not sure or it is unsourced. Since that issue is resolved, I support promotion. Gamaliel (talk) 00:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I should have hoped you were addressing the whole group. You don't think my oppose is worth addressing? Plainly not the blocked IP, who nevertheless raised this issue and without whose input Gamaliel, an administrator, presumably would not have made his comment, so that this nomination would have gone forward in Wikipedia's voice as a portrait of Francesca Caccini. First of all the Wikipedia and Commons edits identifying her were made by you, either unsourced or citing the NGA, which nevertheless makes no mention of Caccini. Caccini's music is still performed today and of necessity her CDs need illustrating with some image. It just so happens that Gentileschi's painting is one of several used. Google Francesca Caccini and you will see several examples of other paintings in the Google info-box. It's just eye-candy. No one is suggesting this painting is a portrait of Francesca Caccini. Give me one citation to an good reliable source (a museum, gallery, art crtic or book) that raises the issue and I'll be happy to withdraw my oppose and edit at the article accordingly. Until then you can argue any which way you like, but this suggestion of Caccini is original research of yours and should not appear in Wikipedia's voice.
On the general issue here, the situation seems to arise because the article was tailor-made for the nomination. I notice Chris raised the issue of the article not being ready. In future I suggest an article should have been in place for some time to give others an opportunity to edit at it (for example, I have yet to complete my own edits at the article). I don't see how the educational value of an image can be assessed if the article is incomplete or contains obvious errors of fact. Ayesha23 (talk) 08:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They are away until September 3rd. Out of curiosity I shall then. Are you saying you made your edits on their say-so without knowing their source? There's no stick here. Frankly, I'm not too bothered by the issue. As it stands the nomination will go forward with your curiously emphatic remark about Caccini. As Gamaliel points out it's no longer directly attributed to Caccini and with luck will stay out of the search engines. I shall clarify on the Talk page and I'll keep a wary eye on any new edits in article space attributing Caccini. Job done. Ayesha23 (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ayesha23 and Hafspajen, just checking in quickly re your message on my talk page and pings. When I added the image of Caccini to Andrea Salvadori in 2011, I was simply going by the documentation on the image at that time and the article Francesca Caccini (which I didn't write) and took it at face value. I'm afraid I can't shed further light on who the actual sitter is or how it came to be attributed as a portrait of Caccini. Voceditenore (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Voceditenore. Thank you very much for responding so quickly. We should be able to sort all this now before closing date 12 August. That file you uploaded 22 September 2013 is indeed very unfortunate and I shall move to have it deleted at Commons. It's a very low-resolution reverse image of the painting. I suspect it's a scan from one of the CDs I mention. When you uploaded it, its description field attributed it to Caccini, but that was edited out on 12 May 2014. Unfortunately it's not easy to edit titles at Commons and this one "File:Ritratto di francesca caccini.png" was left. On 2 August last, Hafspajen replaced it in the article by Orazio Gentileschi - Il suonatore di liuto (National Gallery of Art).jpg adding "Francesca Caccini" to the description field without citation and you have the source of all our present trouble.
We are all experts and enthusiasts here accustomed to appraising works of art. A brief inspection of this painting suffices to show it cannot possibly be a portrait because of the loosed bodice issue I mention above. There is no educational value at all in furthering this myth that it is, even possibly, a portrait of Francesca Caccini. I invite Hafspajen finally to edit that out. While he's at it, he might also like to consider his assertion that Orazio's daughter is a yet more famous painter than the father. I don't go far all this "famous" stuff in art-icles, but I do know that The Lute Player is an exceptionally popular painting and a great favourite at the NGA. We open ourselves to ridicule appraising it as we are now. I have good to reason to suspect it has already caught the eye of a senior curator at one of the world's most prestigious art museums. Time to wrap this up and edit for another day. Really. Thank you again, Voceditenore. I glanced through your article. I thought it excellent. Ayesha23 (talk) 21:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with what you said here except for the bit about Artemisia Gentileschi, who is definitely far more famous than her father today. Gamaliel (talk)
(edit conflict) Yes, true, Artemisia Gentileschi is definitely far more famous than her father. As for the picture, if you so called want to find the " source of all our present trouble" -it would be nice if you stopped blaming me all the time, I am affraid that the so called trouble is rather made big. I found the picture in the commons category Francesca Caccini and it was mentioned as Francesca Caccini several places on Wikipedia. It had both a commons category and several DYKs mentioning it as Francesca Caccini. The painting was put in the category Francesca Caccini by [an other common user] called User:Trzęsacz, not me. It was also mentioned on several places on several DYKs by trusted editors as Voceditenore and Gerda Arendt as Francesca Caccini. In this case several editors have made the same claim. Maybe it is not Francesca Caccini, maybe we all made a mistake, or maybe not. We don't know so far for sure. It doesn't matter who she is as long as we don't pretend we know for sure. It seems to be just a convention to use that picture in association with her. It is also used in music note covers and videos, and habitually used several online biographies, like here, Music Academy online. Hafspajen (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ban evasion aside, they seemed to be pointing out a pretty widespread pattern of wikipedia sourcing ouroboros, I think striking that would just be ignoring the larger issue here. There's no need to cut off the nose to spite the face, right? Parabolist (talk) 01:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Block evasion, not ban evasion. What needs to be struck is the blocked user's verbosity; they love to see their own words on a screen. Feel free to tackle whatever issue they raised. Drmies (talk) 02:10, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Parabolist, the problematic content in the article has already been removed, and has been reworded here. If you are concerned about a "widespread pattern of wikipedia sourcing ouroboros" (I prefer the term citogenesis, but that's just me), this is not the proper forum. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:03, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I never said or claimed I was perfect, first of all. This user all by themselves suddenly puts the extreme high standard of the absolute necessity of being perfect and faultless on me and then gets upset when I am not perfect. I never ever claimed such things. I don't claim that the sitter IS Francesca either, if anyone care to read the discussion above, there is a reasonable amount of doubt about it. Also this user calling me an idiot and the rest of the various name-callings on different off-Wiki sites about Wikipedia editors is kinda low. I wish to have no contact with them or their socks in the future. Hafspajen (talk) 11:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A micrometer is a device incorporating a calibrated screw. It is widely used for precise measurement of components in mechanical engineering and machining as well as most mechanical trades.
Reason
High quality image of a notable measurement instrument, and thus high EV.
Support Spent ages looking for this mystery out-of-focus spot without realising that Chris had corrected it; it was like playing "Where's Wally/Waldo?" if he had the day off. Belle (talk) 14:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
High quality painting and print showing two versions of a motif popular with the artist. He produced at least 5 paintings of the Madonna, and numerous prints. The painting presented here was stolen in 2004 then recovered, whereas the lithograph (like Munch's other prints on the subject) is given a frame which looks like sperm and a fetus-like figure in its bottom left corner.
Significant EV as one of the few high quality images on Wikipedia of a likely black hole, instead of being an artist illustration. This image of Cygnus X-1, which was the first strong black hole candidate to be discovered, was taken by the Chandra X-Ray Observatory.
Oppose Too little resolution, if you ask me. Probably not possible to do this any better, but even then not sufficient for candidacy here I suppose. --Tremonist (talk) 13:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Black hole depicted white here, by the way. I understand the historical importance of this image though, which surely was the main reason for this nomination. And if this competition were about history, I would have supported, of course. --Tremonist (talk) 14:00, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Tremonist quote from the Black hole article: "In the case of compact objects such as white dwarfs, neutron stars, and black holes, the gas in the inner regions becomes so hot that it will emit vast amounts of radiation (mainly X-rays), which may be detected by telescopes."--Pine✉16:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – White-cheeked starling (Sturnus cineraceus) hybrid. "It is native to eastern Asia where it is a common and well-known bird in much of its range."
Reason
Beautiful image already featured on Commons. A few days ago I replaced the previous, much smaller and softer image with this one for the article lede. This image is of a hybrid bird.
@Pine:, are you sure it is not just a juvenile? That's what I thought it was when I looked at the article. I know the description on commons says "hybrid", but it looks similar to these pictures which people (probably not certified starling-species identification experts admittedly) have identified as juvenile white-cheeked starlings [3], [4] (from [5]); it seems that the beak is not always that strong orange. Anyway, it is at best a slightly atypical juvenile so I de-support; since you've withdrawn it anyway my support/de-support is meaningless; I don't know why I didn't do something more exciting than look at pictures of starlings all morning; I should get a life. Belle (talk) 11:52, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note I figured out what was bothering me about this image. The color of the bill is different than the color of the bill shown in the other photos. It turns out that this image is of a hybrid, which is unfortunate because this lowers the EV of the image, although the technical and aesthetic quality remain. Pinging the above users in case anyone wants to change their !vote: Diliff, Chris Woodrich, Bruce1ee, Hafspajen, Tremonist, Alborzagros, Belle, Fredlyfish4, DreamSparrow --Pine✉19:15, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the honest update. I'm not sure how this affects the nomination then (and indeed its place in the article). I can see that you've moved it out of the infobox (good idea) and into the article body with the caption clearly identifying it as a hybrid. I suppose it is no longer of the standard that we'd expect of a featured picture, not in image quality, but in EV. So I think I'll grudgingly have to switch my vote to oppose. Ðiliff«»(Talk)20:16, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I withdraw my nomination after further consideration of the EV issues. The photo is well suited to Commons FP, but here on English Wikipedia we give priority to EV, and after reflection I agree that the EV is too weak. --Pine✉23:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Laitche: if you can get that hybridization information into the Sturnus sericeus and Sturnus cineraceus articles alongside the photo, with the information written in English, then you or I can renominate this photo for ENWP featured picture. Documenting additional references and information about the hybridization will be helpful in establishing the encyclopedic value of the photo. --Pine✉19:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If I had good English skill, I'd like to do so but unfortunately not... And I don't mind the decline or withdraw of this nom, and thanks for the nomination :) --Laitche (talk) 19:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support there's something odd about the other image in that article that is featured on Commons (like that's relevant to this nomination). Belle (talk) 09:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Are you talking about this? It is a male (see the pheromone pouch) whereas this is female. (I didn't notice any maldevelopment although zoo butterflies are prone to it due to artificial feeding. Flash is also a bit harsh there.) Jee05:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A rather good hand-coloured lithograph of a notable singer in the première production of an opera by a major opera composer. While not Verdi's most famous, it's his first opera in French, albeit revised of an Italian opera. Arguably, without Jérusalem, we wouldn't have Les vêpres siciliennes.
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Original – Louis of France (1661–1711) was the eldest son and heir of Louis XIV, and his spouse, Maria Theresa of Spain. As the heir apparent to the French throne, he was styled Dolphin (Dauphin). He became known as "The Big Dolphin" after the birth of his own son, The Little Dolphin. As he died before his father, he never became king.
Reason
High quality scan of a painting with good EV for the subject. It may not be a monkey in a hat, but a dolphin in a wig is sure to tickle Belle's fancy
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Original – Japanese Watercolour Monkey; that's not the breed; it's probably a macaque or something; what am I, a monkeyologist?. I think a Newsboy cap would have rounded it off nicely, but the artist was probably in a rush.
Reason
Pro: Monkey Con: No Hat. Classic nihonga style painting that Google don't seem to have messed up (but can I ask one of you image demons to crop the borders off the right and bottom that were left over from the import [flutters eyelashes; looks helpless]).
Support -- Now she's got this one promoted,will this monkey fetish finally end?And beware lads,she's the sort who might flutter her eyelashes and look helpless and then -bam- sink her teeth into you and that's it,you're trapped.Helpless.No escape. Lemon martini (talk) 10:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Kingdom of Norway, Regerings Kommission, 5 Rigsdaler Courant (1807). Norway circulated one issue of paper currency in 1695 and following a hiatus of just over a century, resumed issuing banknotes in 1807.
Reason
High quality image, high EV. Second issue of paper currency (1807) printed and circulated 112 years after the first issue (1695).
Support – Interesting historical artifact. Perhaps we could get Hafspajen, our honorary Norwegian, to translate the text? (Christiania is the old name of Oslo.) Sca (talk) 14:38, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The text on the document mentions Fem Rigsdaler Dansk (Danish) Courant and exchanges in Rendsborg and Aalborg. Though it is issued in Christiania are you sure it isn't Danish rigsdaler (I know it is a bit confusing round this time; but what makes it Norwegian? Is it just that it is issued in Oslo even though it has Dansk specified as the type?) Belle (talk) 15:57, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Belle- An excellent question (which made me sweat for a moment). The Danish 5 Rigsdaler Courant from 1807 looks notably different regarding design features (i.e., visibly different, has an anti-counterfeiting text vertically in the right margin, and was printed on blue paper). The images of other notes from this series are illustrated in the main reference book for world currency (that does not mean they are immune from making errors), under Norway. I do believe that the place (city) of printing/issuance plays a major factor in determining the origin of the note. For example, in the Norway section of the reference, a single denomination within a series of Norwegian notes was printed and issued from Copenhagen (24 Skilling of 1810), and it is listed in the Denmark section of the book. Can I enlist your assistance in translating the description above in the image file?--Godot13 (talk) 18:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Yes, Godot is correct. Norwegians were not an own nation for a long time. Check out the article Denmark–Norway, the two states had the same monarch; while their boundaries, laws, and interests were distinct. The last period was from 1660 to 1814. Hafspajen (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A high quality image showing a unique iranian traditional custom for mourning in Muharram. Every year, at the day of Ashura, people from some cities of Iran, carry an item called "Nakhl" as if they are performing a funeral for Husayn ibn Ali.
Weak Oppose. I agree with Janke, although I would think of it as a photojournalist style photo where perfect composition is not as important as capturing the feeling of the event. I think it's done that well, although the branch in the foreground is unfortunate. Ðiliff«»(Talk)22:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per Janke. There are mitigating factors, but overall the composition doesn't say "FP" to me. If the Muharram mourning wasn't an annual occasion, I'd be supporting, but there are still opportunities to get better images. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Not a bad snapshot, but the composition is not perfect for a featured picture. See the branch in the top left. It's an annual event, so a better photograph could be taken. Mattximus (talk) 13:40, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – John's Lane Church as viewed from the south-east in Dublin.Original – The interior of John's Lane Church.
Reason
It's a high resolution, high quality image of the impressive facade of John's Lane Church in Dublin, Ireland. It's a notable church by the English Neo-Gothic architect E.W. Pugin, eldest son of the more famous architect Augustus Pugin who designed buildings such as the Palace of Westminster.
Support though officially this image hasn't been in the articles for a week, I just don't care (brave fashion choice by the woman bottom left, but I'm thinking she might just be pulling it off). Belle (talk) 23:56, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
True, I kind of ignore the 'must be in the article for a week' rule in most cases because my images are usually miles better than what existed previously (this, then this). I'm just a rebel like that. :-) Also, I did get the impression that Ireland was a decade or two behind the times but I think that woman's trousers put her squarely in the late 80s/early 90s! Ðiliff«»(Talk)00:03, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As I've been re-pinged (ouch, by the way), I confess that I support either, both, as a set or separately; you can't say I'm not decisive. Belle (talk) 23:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This might be me missing something (it's late...) but is this not a little warped? Look at the bike wheel on the bottom right, for instance. What's caused that? Josh Milburn (talk) 00:12, 8 August 2015 (UTC) It's a great photo, and I'd like to support, but maybe I'll learn something first... Josh Milburn (talk) 00:13, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's just regular wide angle perspective distortion. It tends to tear the fabric of space-time and make things look slightly stretched at the periphery. Unfortunately the only place to view this building in its entirety is from across the street, and with such a tall spire and a fairly wide angle of view on the horizontal axis, something has to give. What I can do is compress the horizontal axis somewhat. I can do it cleverly so that the compression increases the further from the centre so the central part of the image remains relatively unchanged but the periphery is compressed slightly. A bit like if the image was a physical print, and you warp the edges of the paper into the shape of a cylinder. OK, I've uploaded a new version. What do you think? The difference is relatively minor really but it does 'fix' the issue with the bicycle wheel being slightly oblong. Ðiliff«»(Talk)01:57, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – These stone colors are interesting, but – as mentioned re several other noms – I'm not a fan of corner-on oblique shots of large angular structures due to (inevitable?) perspective distortion. Sca (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I completely understand. It's not an ideal vantage point for churches with tall towers or steeples (yes, the perspective distortion is inevitable when the angle of view above the horizon is more than about 30-40°), but with narrow streets and other buildings on either side obscuring the view, this is the best compromise IMO. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:32, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you could try very long stilts? Seriously, I sympathize. I'm sure you know better than I what lens works best in a situation like this. Alas, the distortion is there, making it difficult to satisfy criterion No. 1. (I won't oppose since it's apparently the best that can be done.) Sca (talk) 12:36, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I had a look online and I certainly found no better photos of the building. Some buildings are just incredibly difficult to photograph well for the above reasons. For what it's worth, I don't think the perspective distortion is that different to (or worse than) my photo of St Anne's Church in Vilnius, although I did indeed have the equivalent point of view of someone on stilts (there was a brick wall on the other side of the road that I stood on top of to get the higher POV). Ðiliff«»(Talk)13:23, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Now you mention it, the St. Anne's spires do have a slightly splayed look in that shot – but it's not corner-focused and seems less distorted to me. Sca (talk) 14:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
'"Comment'" - I know I can't vote, but why not add the lovely image of the church interior from the St John Lane's Church article and make it a set? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.46.92 (talk) 21:26, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't sure if an indoor-outdoor combination would qualify as a set. I suppose in a sense they are more useful together, and there's even a precedent for it, which I'd completely forgotten about. They contribute to the same article, so why not? RO, Dэя, Belle, Chris Woodrich, Jobas, gazhiley, Tremonist, Josh Milburn, how do you feel about the two images as a set? Sorry for throwing this in the ring half way through the nom. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:03, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have literally no preference either way... Both are excellent pictures, but I could support them either as a set or as seperate nominations... gazhiley13:15, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The Sherman-Grant note, a unit of fractional currency which was cancelled after legislation was passed forbidding the depiction of living people on US banknotes
Thank you for your interest in FPC. However, as stated in the opening explanation, "only [votes from users] who have been on Wikipedia for 25 days and with at least 100 edits will be included in the numerical count." You are free to comment as you please, however. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:48, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Such as? Keeping in mind, of course, that the subject is the razor itself and not the act of shaving. (Although an image of a person shaving with a Mach3 would be useful, it would have little value in illustrating the razor as a razor; between the shaving foam obscuring the cartridge and the hands around the handle, little of the razor would be visible) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:04, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You'd think somebody over there would make cheap counterfeits – or does Gillette's long legal arm reach that far? Sca (talk) 13:37, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you just wax, boys? Or veet (don't try this; apparently it causes burns because your delicate manly faces aren't as tough as our legs) Belle (talk) 14:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Due to the picture being taken from the blade end, it is not possible to see that the blade (cartridge) can be detached: the mechanism is obscured by the blade. The lighting is also rather harsh and in places the image is slightly burnt out. FunkyCanute (talk) 17:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree with Brandmeister. There are better stamps that could be featured, the 1898 $1 Trans-Mississippi Issue ("Western Cattle in Storm") for example. I would happily support stamps like those. Ayesha23 (talk) 10:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose – Has some (rather slight) historical EV, but simplicity of design, while appropriate to use, provides little visual interest, IMO. Sca (talk) 14:04, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Allium rothii is a plant species found in Israel, Palestine, Syria, Egypt, and Jordan. It is a bulb-forming perennial with an umbel of flowers. Tepals are white with deep purple midveins; stamens and ovaries conspicuously deep purple.
Oppose – Aesthetically interesting plant, but shallow DOF blurs edges. (Could be cropped much more tightly.) Article is stub. Sca (talk) 14:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Taagepera Church is in village Taagepera, Helme Parish, Valga County, south of Estonia. The building was constructed in 1674. Taagepera's Saint John's church is placed in a green land on a little hill above the village.
Support Nice enough picture - clear, crisp, framed well and exceeds min resolution... Yes, EV isn't amazing given the tiny article it refers to, but it does the job... gazhiley16:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice enough picture - clear, crisp, framed well and exceeds min resolution... Yes, EV isn't amazing given the tiny article it refers to, but it does the job... gazhiley16:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – A pacifier for a newborn, consisting of a transparent teat, white mouth shield, and blue handle. Such rubber, plastic, or silicone nipples are given to infants to suck on.
Reason
High quality image of an underrepresented subject.
(Aside from the fact that this background is already pretty gray) The transparent teat makes it difficult to change the colors, but I'll see what I can do
Oppose – Nice picture, but the rubber part is lost by being transparent. I had to zoom in and look carefully just to see what I was looking at. There are many pacifiers that have an opaque rubber section that would be nicely visible on any coloured background. Mattximus (talk) 03:21, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This sucks, baby. Or the other way round. The white hard plastic part doesn't show up well against the background either, and I'd like a better view of the handle too (a parent trying to comfort a screaming baby with the photographer's hand pushing them away in the background would round it off perfectly). Belle (talk) 07:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw - I'll see about setting this on a black background. We're not going to get much of a view of the handle from this angle, and any view focusing on the handle will not get the teat in good detail (and that's the most important part!) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:59, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Does the handle not fold out? Or could you at least have it partially towards the viewer; the handle is very important as this is what the baby gets hold of and uses to fling the pacifier into the dirt two seconds after you picked it up from the dirt, washed it, dried it, and put it back in their mouth (repeat). Belle (talk) 08:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Right, it does fold out. I think we've still got an unopened pacifier in the cabinet. I'll see what I can do when the in-laws stop using my studio as a guest room (or when I can again use the guest room as a studio). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not even that; my brother-in-law lives with us permanently because works with my wife to operate a branch of the post office. He just usually uses another room. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Although the EV is there, the technical quality is lacking. There appears to be an attempt to mitigate halftoning which has led to specking throughout the image, and there is a brown stain along the bottom. If we could scan this from a negative (like our other FPs from the era) the technical quality would be much better. Also, we can't claim PD-70 on an image for which we don't list the author's lifespan. If the photographer lived until 1950, say, this would still be in copyright in the UK until 2021. This may be PD-anon, but I'm not familiar enough with the studio to say for sure (was Chidley Studios run by a lone photographer, or were there many people, or...) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, some mitigating manipulation has been done but there is no brown stain. There are other FPs from the early 1900s that are not scans from negatives. The image is by a single person studio: I have been unable to trace them, although it is likely that the person died in 1932. FunkyCanute (talk) 14:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The mutilated body of Sergeant Frederick Wyllyams, Troop G, 7th Cavalry, who was one of seven soldiers killed in a skirmish with Cheyenne, Sioux, and Arapaho warriors on 26 June 1867
Reason
A Hi-Resolution image of the aftermath of the Battle of Little Bighorn (also known as "Custer's Last Stand"). The poor Sargent was a victim of battle, although I should think that the mutilation of the body occurred ex post facto given the apparent absence of blood from the cadaver, which seems to confirm the information in the article we have on the Battle of Little Bighorn: "By the time troops came to recover the bodies, they found most of the dead stripped of their clothing, ritually mutilated, and in an advanced state of decomposition, making identification of many impossible." Sergeant Frederick Wyllyams was a part of the fabled U.S. 7th Cavalry Regiment, which was a military unit most famously associated with its role in the Indian Wars. This image is informative, and shows the lengths that both sides went to in order to win: for their part, the Americans were at the time concerned with manifest destiny and the white man's burden, while the Native American tribes were fighting desperately to prevent the invading US forces from capturing their tribal land and marshaling the surviving members of the tribe onto reservations in what is today the Midwest and south/southwestern United States.
Due to some ambiguity with the archives credit is given to both John Hannavy and William Abraham Bell, although our photo captions seems to favor the latter over the former.
Oppose – I fail to see how this grisly image adds significant EV to the 7th Cavalry Regiment target article, the text of which does not mention either the "skirmish" or Mr. Wyllyams; nor is it of a high technical standard. Sca (talk) 12:53, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it does, but its a drive-by mention. It could be added the Battle of Little Bighorn article to address the apparent lack of EV (which I will do after I save this), but on the technical standard front I am at a loss for explanation - the image does look a little beat up on closer inspection. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:46, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Sca: yes, that is what I meant. I want to note here too that while I did add the image to the battle of little bighorn article the edit was reverted by @I am One of Many:, so it appears that the image is just going to have to drift among the already mentioned articles. Sorry about that. TomStar81 (Talk) 19:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How did they get the clothes off without removing the arrows? Not a dilemma that frequently taxes me I should hasten to add, just curious. As for the pic I know there's something in the guidance about images not necessarily being pleasing. I seriously thought about supporting, but on balance stay neutral. Ayesha23 (talk) 11:37, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
With the same knives they used to cut the body? Once you slice the clothes into small pieces, I guess it would be as simple as sliding them up the arrow bodies. Or maybe they shot him with extra arrows once he was already dead, to increase the shock value. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:23, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Well, there's nothing absolutely fantastic about the photo but it does indeed show the tower pretty accurately, including its incredible lean and the EV is good. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Someone should check that the tilt has not been exaggerated. According to the article, the angle is now (post-2001) 3.99°. The angle in the picture looks significantly more than that to me. It is absolutely essential that the angle in the picture is accurate, otherwise it loses all encyclopedic value. 86.152.163.222 (talk) 12:06, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. I did have a look at the buildings in the background and they do look reasonably straight.. There are inward leans on both sides which is consistent with the camera looking upwards, although having a second look, the left side is leaning stronger than the right, which would exaggerate the lean to the right... And you're right, that lean is wayyyy more than 3.9 degrees. OK I'll strike my support until we can figure it out. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Also, just a minor issue but there has been some bad cloning of the wires on the bottom left side of the image. Not sure what has happened but it's not ideal. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:17, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment – My view is, the LTP has been photographed so many times that it's become rather a bromide. Exaggerated lean? Donno. A view from three years ago for comparison at lower right. Sca (talk) 13:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The one from 2012 seems to be leaning backwards as well as to the right (at least, I think so... this things are good at being optical illusions), which would actually decrease the perceived lean compared to its actual lean. Could it be that the article itself is wrong about its 3.9 degree lean? Also, you'll have to educate me: what (in this context) is a bromide? Ðiliff«»(Talk)13:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, a cliché – something that's been said (or seen) so many times it's not interesting. If you got someone parachuting off the tower, that would be interesting.
Re the degree of lean, I looked up the German WP article (the only other lang. I can read), and it says that up at the top the tower extends out 3.9 meters from vertical, which relative to its height of 55.8 meters means an inclination of about 4 degrees. (This was reduced from 5.5 degrees before restoration work began in 1990, it says.) Sca (talk) 15:24, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Breaking update. Well, I feel a bit sheepish, but (based on the assumption that the tower doesn't taper inwards, and from the diagrams I've seen, it doesn't) I just measured the lean in the image and it's actually 4.2 degrees on the left side and 3.2 degrees on the right side (I wouldn't expect either side to be exactly the same because of the effects of perspective which narrows the tower towards the top). This basically shows that we're imagining a greater lean than is actually present in the image, and if you average the two measurements, you get 3.7 degrees, which is very close to the 3.99 degrees that the article states. Long story short, we probably should have measured it in the first place instead of trusting our faulty brains! I'll retract my retraction. As for it being a cliché, it certainly is, but IMO that doesn't mean it's not deserving of a FP photo. I think in time we could take a better one (I know I certainly would if I visited), but for now I think it's an interesting and notable image. Ðiliff«»(Talk)15:46, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – the main article could be better but there is sufficient EV to support this good image's promotion. Plus we've all just had a lesson in how the eye can deceive and it brought back pleasant memories of when I regularly popped over to Milan, Portofino, Lucca and Pisa. SagaciousPhil - Chat09:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Despite this being my pet hate, ie taken in near darkness leaving soft details and light glare, I do like this picture... I agree with Sca that there's a lot of foreground and sky, but if you crop the foreground you lose the reflection, and I feel this adds to the picture... I little crop wouldn't harm from the top, but I don't feel it's needed in this instance... gazhiley13:13, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's a fine photo but much too arty for an encyclopaedic image IMO.. It shows neither the bridge or l'Agora well and I don't think it really belongs in either article at all as it adds almost no value. As I said though, as a photo in isolation, it's quite nice. Just not useful IMO. Ðiliff«»(Talk)20:04, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with Ðiliff - as I have commented on the nom above, this is also a lovely pretty picture, but use on an Encyclopedia is questionable due to lack of detail visable. The bridge is incomplete and the angle of the building behind isn't the best to see detail (as well as being obstructed by the bridge). gazhiley11:51, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how you can reach that conclusion. Artistic pictures are of value if the article is about the art. If the article is about an object, how is it best illustrated by an artistic image that doesn't show the object clearly? What do you learn from seeing this image that you don't learn better from a less artistic but clear and complete representation of it? Uncommonly, an artistic image can be equally encyclopaedically valuable, and when that's the case, great! But more often than not, an artistic image simply cannot illustrate the subject well because it sacrifices a understanding of the subject. Ðiliff«»(Talk)00:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Striking and beautiful, yes. EV? No. We can make out the silhouette of the pier, but we can't tell anything else about it. What color? What materials? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:32, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand the force of that, but I'll stay with my support. Not a pier architecture wallah myself, but there must be stuff you can ascertain from the silhouette. Ayesha23 (talk) 11:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with Chris Woodrich - lovely pretty picture, but use on an Encyclopedia is questionable due to lack of detail visable. No doubt a contender for Commons, but not up to FP standard sorry. gazhiley11:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per Crisco, nice photograph, but not encyclopedic as it lacks many details as a silhouette, it's not even the lead image for this pier. Mattximus (talk) 22:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support I would agree with Chris, gazhiley, Sca, and Mattximus because I want to be on the winning side, but I'm going for the plucky underdog role as the Betjeman quote gives this picture some EV; "the most beautiful pier in England" and this photo shows you why; sure, it might be beautiful in the daylight too, but you can't say this shows it it a bad light. Belle (talk) 23:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I disagree on the opposition's EV assessment. Having it backlit in this manner makes it easier to see the architectural structure of the pier. In his oppose, Chris Woodrich asks "What color? What materials?" To which I would respond that you can certainly tell by the structure in this image that the pier would have to be made out of metal, as wood that thin would not be able to support itself. As far as color, yes that is difficult to determine on this image, but I think the aesthetic quality of this image outweighs the negative of the pier not being seen in true color. And technically, color is an illusion created by your brain anyway. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:05, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"technically, color is an illusion created by your brain anyway." - The same argument could be made for running all B&W pictures, or a photograph of a valley with a red sky and purple earth. The color and details visible in a front-lit image allows us to narrow down the material to more than just "metal"; we can (hopefully) tell the difference between wrought iron, steel, or something even more exotic like titanium or alpacca. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, colour is the perception our brain gives to a very specific wavelength of light that is emitted from the object. That wavelength is constant in nature, and does not require a human to be there for it to have that wavelength. So colour is not entirely an illusion, but an objective physical property subjectively interpreted. All that to say that colour is important and adds encyclopaedic value. Mattximus (talk) 00:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Great example of a difficult to find early Persian note in respectable condition. The bank stamps add authenticity and EV, and show that the note was likely part of a pack all stamped at the same time (i.e., transfer ink from the note above an below). Restoration (IMO) would reduce the authenticity of the note.--Godot13 (talk) 09:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Dustin Brown during Wimbledon qualifying in 2015
Reason
I think it's one of my better (non-studio) portraits with good sharpness and resolution, and plenty of character. Dustin Brown is a Jamaican-German tennis player who has never really settled into the top 50, but has a really flamboyant style (his volleys, drop shots and forehands are incredible) and occasionally shows flashes of absolute brilliance. This photo was taken at the Wimbledon qualifying (where the second-tier pro players fight to qualify for the main draw of Wimbledon) where he demolished his opponents in the three games. He then went on to Beat Raphael Nadal (if you want to see some really entertaining tennis, watch the highlights of this match on YouTube or this eye-boggling drop shot service return) in the second round of Wimbledon proper, before being knocked out in the following round.
This unique, important document is possibly the oldest manuscript of Quran discovered ever and is said to prove that the current versions are not changed.
Support -- Outstanding EV. The 1% deficit in vertical resolution not important here as the script is clearly legible and every mark can be seen and identified. There are already higher resolution images available on the internet, though not as good as this image. No doubt a suitable higher resolution image will eventually be uploaded to overwrite this one. Ayesha23 (talk) 16:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support . Beauty should not rule the necessity. Reasoning to have an standard is itself a response to technical issues of minor nature. Nannadeem (talk) 13:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - It's not bad, but it's below the minimum pixel threshold by quite a bit. I'm sure a better scan will be available in the future. Mattximus (talk) 23:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- An absolute classic. A VERY famous painting. Fantastic, dynamic composition, much analyzed by art historians. Excellent artist, one of the art history's very best. Article could be better though, but that not a consern. Hafspajen (talk) 19:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Slightly too tightly cropped at the bottom but I know how it is trying to frame perfectly while hand-holding at large focal lengths. It's surprisingly tricky! Ðiliff«»(Talk)21:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support One of the best bird photos I've seen here in a long time. This has excellent EV, and high technical standards. Nick-D (talk) 09:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support either, preference for alt. But it does look rather faded and lacking in contrast. I'm no expert on restoration and the ethics of various adjustments, but I assume the goal is to bring it to life as much as possible (realistically, of course)... Ðiliff«»(Talk)20:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you can't get a macro shot where every part of the section is in perfect focus because the depth from the stem to the flower tips is enough that you have to chose one or the other, or a mix of both, which is what I've done. RO(talk)23:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Depends on your lens, but you may have to go to f/11 or even f/13 (assuming the lighting and wind allow it). Something like this, though not everything is in focus (the only thing that would allow you to get the whole thing in focus is focus stacking, and that's a pain to work with), doesn't have as many OOF blobs where the tips of the petals are. File:Centaurea jacea 01.JPG is another example where the focus is handled a bit better (that's f/11 as well). Another thing you could do is shoot from further away and then crop. Depth of field depends not only on aperture, but also on the distance from the lens to the subject. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:14, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – "The Cygnus Loop (radio source W78, or Sharpless 103) is a large supernova remnant (SNR) in the constellation Cygnus, an emission nebula measuring nearly 3° across. Some arcs of the loop, known collectively as the Veil Nebula or Cirrus Nebula, emit in visible light. Radio, infrared and X-ray images reveal the complete loop."
Reason
Notable astronomical object (a supernova remnant). Image used in multiple articles. Image size 6,000 × 5,208 pixels.
Look at the original: I'm getting towards the stage where further fixes become dangerous. I will be poking at it more over the next few days, as is normal. Adam Cuerden(talk)13:16, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Snowy egret is a small white heron. It is the American counterpart to the very similar Old World little egret, which has established a foothold in the Bahamas. At one time, the beautiful plumes of the snowy egret were in great demand by market hunters as decorations for women's hats.
Support reminds me of Gru from Despicable Me (I'd like to stress that this isn't in FP criteria; don't worry if you are nominating something that isn't likely to remind me of Gru; I deal with each nomination on a case by case basis). Belle (talk) 14:47, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Leica II, front view, 1931
Reason
High resolution picture, focus stacking, rare single Object, the second full format camera worldwide from the legendary Leitz Company, Wetzlar, Germany.
Comment - Not used in any articles on the English Wikipedia. We don't have an article on the Leica I, so not fixable without a bit more work. But that is a beautiful camera. I really want to support... — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:28, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Puzzling that this particular Kameraprojekt shot of a pristine restoration (with great detail) isn't used at Leica Camera, which instead uses this pic of a more worn, patina-etched example. Sca (talk) 13:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Sorry, I mixed it up with Leica I. Now it appears in the article! Its my first nomination here, please be lenient...--Hubertl (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Halfway down, though. Well, it's a good shot in terms of EV. Like Chris, I like it. (All these prewar cameras were machined and assembled by hand!) Sca (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One of the most incredible experience at this project was, taking every camera in his own hand while closing the eyes. Just to feel it. --Hubertl (talk) 07:49, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Mourning of Muharram is held in majority of cities and villages in Iran by Shia Muslims annually. Although all sort of ceremonies are performed for Husayn ibn Ali and his followers martyrdom remembrance, they have different styles and rules referring to various cultures.
Reason
A High quality photo demonstrating how markets are shut down during Muharram and turn into a place for holding mourning costumes.
Hasn't been in any of the articles for seven days; you should really wait until next week when if the shots stick I would support. Belle (talk) 14:55, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Self-Portrait with Halo and Snake an 1889 oil on wood painting by French artist Paul Gauguin. It shows Gauguin against a red background, a halo above his head and apples hanging beside him, as he holds a snake in his hand. Plants or flowers appear in the foreground. The religious symbolism and the stylistic influence of Japanese wood-block prints and cloisonnism are readily apparent. The self-portrait is one of more than 40 he completed during his lifetime.
Reason
Because it is an awesome painting. And a good scan.
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Original –The Travelling Companions are in a carriage, facing each other, outside, the window scene is perhaps Menton in southern France, according to the article. (We want to meet Gaguin.)
Support especially as we've gone a week without any FPC opportunities for cracking puns; not that I want to egg anybody on. Belle (talk) 10:41, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Statue of Kuruvan & Kuruthi
Reason
Very nice quality, composition and EV. Already QI. The article clearly speaks about the significance of the statue and the place is famous for its beauty and especially for this statue by C.B Jinan erected on the top of the hill in the year 2005. The statue of Kuravan and Kurathi, two historical characters behind the construction of the Idukki Dam. The rocks between the Idukki dam are named after them. Its believing that, Kuravan and Kurathi helped the authorities to find the right place for constructing the dam.
Comment Support – Striking monument; good detail of texture. Alas, Ramakkalmedu does not mention Kuruvan & Kuruthi other than in label-caption in infobox. Suggest info about statue be added to target article.Sca (talk) 13:20, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – From the article: "Cigaritis cilissa is a butterfly of the Lycaenidae family. It is found in Iraq, Iran, Israel, Kurdistan, Syria and Turkey."
Per Diliff. The colours, though, are really beautiful, especially the silver stains on the wings. Against some odds, I tend to support here. --Tremonist (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- I like the Pollock, basically because it is the same color scheme, and it has the same angles as the butterfly wings and the flower, and it creates a harmonious aspect. And as per Tremonist the silver stains on the wings are really beautiful, especially close up. Hafspajen (talk) 19:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
no NO no, I like THIS Pollock, I don't like Pollock running around with a can of paint on a canvas laid on the floor and when he got tired he calls it ART. I call that ... the The Emperor's New Clothes. Sorry anyone, I think an artist has to do something more than just the so popular " I entitle you art" thing. Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Spring Scattering Stars is a 1927 allegorical painting by American artist Edwin Blashfield. It depicts a nude female personification of spring on a wet moon scattering stars throughout the sky. The painting was sold by the Heritage Auctions to a private collection.
Reason
One of the largely forgotten paintings, but a good digitization had been made before it was auctioned. Discovered by chance when I googled for other nude stuff.
Problem with that is that this would have had to be renewed in about 1955/56, and those records aren't yet on the Copyright.gov website. You'd have to search these books. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:04, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Good scan of a fascinating painting; although the article for the painting itself is a stub, it is backed up with a reasonable article on the artist providing sufficient EV. SagaciousPhil - Chat09:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality, high EV (set). The first banknotes both designed and printed by the Commonwealth of Australia (versus superscribed notes) were the limited (i.e., in denomination) first issue notes of the series of 1913. The 1913 second issue (Series 1918) contained all denominations authorized by the Australian Notes Act (1910) and issued by the Commonwealth Treasury. An amendment to the Commonwealth Bank Act (1920) authorized the bank to be the sole issuer of Australian banknotes which is reflected underneath the signatures of the Series 1923–25 notes.
Original
An 11-note complete set of the two series of banknotes issued by the Commonwealth of Australia transitioning from notes printed by the Australian Treasury to those printed by the Commonwealth Bank. The changeover was accompanied by a significant reduction in size (i.e., height, see table, Banknotes of the Australian pound), allowing more notes to be printed per sheet. Most of the nominated notes are uncirculated punch-cancelled specimens.
Support. Nice collection of images. Godot13, did you actually scan/photograph these images or did you the National Museum of American History provide the images? Just curious. And Chris, indeed, I'm hoping to expand the range of Australian FPs when I'm back home in Australia. There are actually a number of interesting and notable buildings in Melbourne on my to-do list. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry to go against the consensus here, but I would much prefer unpunched, uncrossed-over images, even if scanned from circulated notes. Please cancel my oppose if there are no known ones existing. --Janke | Talk09:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Janke- I understand your concern. I will not have access to my reference books until Aug 18th. From memory, issued notes do exist for each of the denominations pictured, but in some cases (per auction records and collector census) as few as 5-10 examples (perhaps less) are actually known to exist in issued form, and some of them are in low grade (i.e., effecting the colors and sharpness of design). --Godot13 (talk) 10:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Faulty nom. – lacks links to target articles. Well, I suppose we should wait for CIA to update the map – ??? Sca (talk) 14:45, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Examples? Here, it's not that he's looking past the camera, but rather his eyes are focused at something above him and to his right. The look is very unflattering. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:18, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Aw, I don't mind the way he looks out of the picture, I actually like it, but that's I guess personal. It looks like he is thinking, like an oriental philosopher or something, trying to figure out something. Hafspajen (talk) 19:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Framing is the fitting together of pieces to give a structure support and shape. Materials are usually wood, engineered wood, or structural steel. Light-frame construction such as here is used for economic reasons, as it allows builders to enclose a large area with minimal cost, while achieving a wide variety of architectural styles.
Reason
Good quality image from Malaysia of a fundamental part of construction.
Support Though the builder assured me it was supposed to look like that when it was finished it sure is chilly during the winter. Belle (talk) 12:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Mrs. J.J. "Molly" Brown presenting trophy cup award to Capt. Arthur Henry Rostron, for his service in the rescue of the Titanic. The committee for the award was chaired by Frederick Kimber Seward.
Reason
Margaret Brown, known as "Maggie" to her friends and to history as the "Unsinkable Molly Brown", was the person most associated with commandeering Titanic life boat #6 and returning to the scene of Titanic's final plunge to search for any survivors from the fridge waters of the North Atlantic. In May 1912, Mrs. J.J. "Molly" Brown presented a trophy cup (apparently also referred to as a loving cup) award to Capt. Arthur Henry Rostron, for his service in the rescue of the Titanic survivors.
Oppose because of cut-off person at left, at least for now - a crop starting at the outer right edge of the brim of the hat might improve it a bit? --Janke | Talk16:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unfortunate composition makes it look like she has a ladder growing out of her back (and the cut-off person at the left that Janke mentioned). Pity, because she's working that hat. Belle (talk) 12:44, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – As far as I can discover, this is not a notable person in U.S. history. Brief article provides no info about accomplishments or policies, other than serving three years in N.Y. state Senate. EV thus seems dubious. Sca (talk) 20:31, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - He's notable per WP:POLITICIAN ("Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature." are presumed notable) and that's enough for FPC. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - We have several views of the Hong Kong skyline featured, all of which are better quality than this. Here, the buildings are leaning, blocked by the hill, and the resolution is lower than previous images. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:11, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are several pictures of Hong Kong skyline featured, but almost night scenes, also not that angle even in daytime (people mostly taken in Peak Tower, but I'm taken in middle section of Lugard Road, which are different places and views). Leaning because I'm not using Panorama to take photo, I only need to ensure buildings locating center of the picture not lean, left and right end buildings are the same small amount leaning then just okay. Exploringlife)03:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Now I've enlarged the resolution of Original 1 from 2,333 x 1,750 to 4,333 x 3,250 pixels (Edit 1), meanwhile provide Original 2 (another angle taken at Peak Tower) for choosing, the Original 2 is less leaning and also have an enough and clear resolution of 3,027 x 2,250 pixels. Even Edit 1's pixels reached 3,000 above, the image noise is not obvious when enlarging to watch. Furthermore, this skyline with heavy fog or hazy on the top of the picture, still successfully elected featured picture, however my Edit 1 and Original 2 under good visibility with nearly zero smog, therefore I don't think my portfolios are wrosen than him. Exploringlife)08:42, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You have "enlarged" the original - and it became fuzzy! The requirement is that the original should be of large size - upsampling is frowned upon and will not improve the chances of passing! --Janke | Talk10:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I still believe clear visibility of my portfolios is an advantage compare with this , whatever finally my picture featured or not, the featured picture with poor visibility should consider for delisting to maintain basic standard of featured photograph. Another point is the original picture size did not represent the real size when first uploading to commons, actually I've reduced some resolution before first upload, I can show the real original size picture to you by verify in exif data if you want to see. Exploringlife)10:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Downsampling is also frowned upon, particularly when there are no technical reasons to do so. Visibility in the night time image (and sharpness!) is fine with me. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:29, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Downsampling can reduce image noise, upsampling is much difficult to keep image details well/sharpness than downsampling, unless via professional image software, so criteria should allow suitable down/upsampling to improve images. Exploringlife)04:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Compare the sharpness of the night photo you mention and your upsampled one, and you'll see why it probably will not become a FP. (PS: Your elaborate sig doesn't help at all... ;-) --Janke | Talk15:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both per Chris Woodrich - even in the second original picture (surely should be a seperate nom unless posted at same time?) there is lean on the buildings, & lots of noise/focus issues. Not up to the standard of the pictures that normally pass here sorry. gazhiley12:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The image was added to Hong Kong twenty minutes before the nomination here. WP:FP?: "It is preferable to wait a reasonable period of time (at least 7 days) after the image is added to the article before nominating it, though this may be ignored in obvious cases, such as replacing a low-resolution version of an image with a higher resolution of the same image." I wouldn't say this is an obvious case. Belle (talk) 09:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw No matter how many oppose votes, now I withdraw this voting and closing the discussion. If my photo become English Wikipedia FPC again, that means my camera has replaced by a high definition one. Exploringlife (talk) 13:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
>Exploringlife, I know this image is now withdrawn, but I just wanted to point something out... It doesn't have to be a panorama for the vertical lines to be vertical. It's simply good practice for architectural photography. It can be done with a regular camera too, either by centring the middle of the frame on the horizon (and then cropping the part of the image that isn't needed), or by digitally adjusting the perspective. Neither requires a panorama. Ðiliff«»(Talk)00:14, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The only (more-or-less) black and white illustration of a major character's costume, I thought it best to separate this from the rest of the set, as it's qualitatively different, and might call for separate evaluation therefore. I think the yellowing near the centre is intentional, but I could be wrong, the paper is very, very yellowed compared to the others, and I'm not fully sure why.
@Crisco 1492: Check the original. Might have lost a pixel or two at most on the already-cut-off text on the left, but other than that, it's as much as we have. I think these were done on larger pieces of paper, then cut up to be handed around, maybe, as there's a lot of cut-off text in costume designs. Adam Cuerden(talk)02:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think it is cut off; the French reads fine even if it does get close to the left-hand edge. I don't find much EV in it though; the costume and notes strike me as quite uninspired and we have no way of knowing if this is an accurate depiction of Prévost; the designer isn't going to be chiefly concerned with capturing an accurate likeness. I might support it as a set with the others, but on its own, no. Belle (talk) 12:38, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Good scan with it's own article so the EV is there. Looks to be plenty of info available to expand that stub - maybe if I get time unless Chris gets there first. [hint, hint]SagaciousPhil - Chat10:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support The projection is a little odd; presuming the hole at the top is straight up - which it may well not be - a little cropping at the top may clarify the image visually, but this is a very high-quality image. Adam Cuerden(talk)14:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Looking at Commons, this isn't representative of the majority of the interior. Most of it appears to be straight hallways, not curved rooms. Now, if this room had discussion in the article, I might support, but as simple "Interior" it doesn't appear to have the necessary EV. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Adam (who didn't oppose, but I'm opposing because of what he said about the projection; makes me feel a bit queasy trying to straighten up that hole) Belle (talk) 12:16, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – I think the hole is straight-up, but to my eye, there's something odd about the perspective or projection. (And it's not clear from the article what the function of the hole was. Perhaps the site of a gun turret?) Sca (talk) 14:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Understood, but in my usage subject refers to a person depicted, not the type of bread. It's awkward, and her head is cut off in most of video too. Sca (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Week support -I think this video is indeed very interesting, even if the quality is a bit ... weak. But it was very interesting to watch how they make the bread. Hafspajen (talk) 18:57, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The Sky garden is an interior garden which occupies the 34th to 37th storeys of 20 Fenchurch Street, London; it has been called London's highest public park
Reason
High quality image showing a different (I've never been to a sky garden) sight. Has good discussion in the article.
Not sure about this, it really shows the cafe rather than the (unimpressive IMNSHO) sky garden. Admittedly it is hard to capture the full effect unless you can hover 20 feet off the balcony; please don't try to do this unless you have the super power of flight, a jetpack, or a really bouncy trampoline. Belle (talk) 10:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The more I look at it the less I like as an illustration of the subject; the garden simply isn't the focus of this image; if it was meant to show the cafe in the sky garden it would be a winner; and it would be even better if there was a man with a stick, bobble hat and a red and white striped jersey in there somewhere. Belle (talk) 08:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral for now At the moment, the information in the article about the sky garden doesn't persuade me that the garden is very notable, and therefore I question the EV of this image. The image is more appropriate as a Commons FP, unless additional documentation about the notability of the garden is provided. --Pine✉19:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Let's call it the view from the Sky garden, then. I think it is just a matter of definition. The notability of the garden is rather high, see here too, very diffcult to make a garden work like this. It is not open like the Kensington Roof Gardens, but it is an indoor garden, that adds to the difficulty, you know. And the architect, Rafael Viñoly is well known, and probably could be used in the roof garden article too, good EV, I say. Added it, by the way. Probably could be used in Rafael Viñoly as well. And I think I spotted Armbrust in the picture, in a blue jacket, with the door, so it has to be sharp too. Hafspajen (talk) 22:03, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – Woman has scythe envy.
Reason
Good reasons to vote for it: it's lovely; I like it; Anna Ancher is the only woman in the Skagen Painters to be regarded on a par with the male stars and she's under-represented; this is a more unusual subject for a Skagen painting than the regular Girl is busy ignoring you, We sit around morosely or Fishermen have a tough life; the man with the scythe is coming for you if you don't vote for it (sensitive souls please note: this is not a genuine threat); for the behatted monkey haters, it features no monkeys in hats (happy now?). There's a bit of Google Art Project fake drop shadow on the right that somebody might like to cut off, but otherwise it is flawless; absolutely flawless
Support – Makes a statement, though I'm not sure what it says. Something about the alleged dignity of hard work, I suppose. Sca (talk) 14:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Well done shot, but is it best to have an image of the building as it was under construction? The cranes and scaffolding rather detract from the building. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:15, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The couple having sex in the office about 20 floors up is distracting, as is the temporary black-out curtain that completely covers the front view; also, I think if we are going to feature an "under construction" image it should be at a less advanced stage of the construction. Belle (talk) 08:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Question I've recently been to London, and didn't notice this building being still under construction - was that a misconception or has this building now been long completed? gazhiley09:59, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In fact I've just viewed the article, and can see construction was completed in 2014, so therefore I will Oppose this picture as it is not a recent picture - we should be easily able to get a more recent quality picture of it... gazhiley10:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I hereby nominate this structure as the new contender for Ugliest Building in Europe, supplanting this misbegotten edifice. Sca (talk) 23:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's a very easy to photograph building (albeit not in its entirety as it's surrounded by other buildings as you can see), and I think we can do much better than this one (we, meaning I! Or anyone else based in London). And yes Chris, I agree it's not ideal to feature an image of it still under construction. For one thing, the dark shroud covering its face was only temporary. Long story short, the curved glass caused a magnifying effect of sunlight at certain times of day/year and melted things at street level below, so they put that up while they figured out how to fix it. The 'solution' is shutters over the glass (my photo) which is not shown in this image, so it has low EV for that reason. Ðiliff«»(Talk)11:57, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I can confirm the other major complaint about this building - the way it creates a vortex of wind around its base. It's true. It felt like I was in the middle of a storm taking that photo. Just 50 metres further away and the winds almost completely ceased. It was quite strange. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:00, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to remember a news report around the time it was being built, and the majority of the glass was installed, where the reporter attempted to fry an egg using purely the light/heat from the reflections in the glass... They didn't manage to get it to an edible standard, but it definitely started to cook... There were reports of the pavement (tarmac covered) melting, car windows coming loose due to the rubber suround melting, etc etc... Crazy - no wonder they fitted the shutters... gazhiley14:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Focus seems off on the body - to my eye only the neck and head are sharp... Otherwise a decent picture... gazhiley09:50, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As lovely and technically good this picture is, it's rather oddly placed in the two articles, as neither the Great Ocean Road or the Island Archway are mentioned or referred to, and as such the EV isn't there surely? There's no apparent link to the articles this is in when looking at the description and then the article - only an assumption that this must be an example of the types of landscape being talked about... gazhiley09:39, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you're right. It used to be in the Great Ocean Road article, but as usual, good images get replaced with bad images over time. I don't have the energy to constantly trawl through old articles re-adding my images. But it could easily be re-added. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just to complicate matters even further, I've found that since this photo was taken in 2008, it's actually partially collapsed, and now looks like this. ;-) So... It still has some EV in terms of showing a 'before' photo, but the caption(s) would need to be amended. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:45, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose On the basis that Ðiliff has confirmed this is no longer an accurate picture of the natural structure... I will change my vote if the nomination and description that appears in the article is amended to reflect this is no longer an accurate view... Shame, as it's a lovely picture... gazhiley17:37, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Diliff, time for an article for this. Then it will have EV, both like before and after, or it will go down in the sink, and that would be a big shame. Hafspajen (talk) 18:43, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It does a bit. It's the result of old-school HDR processing methods. I would go back and update it with better processing, but I lost all my old photos in a hard drive crash last year. So we're stuck with whatever we have on Commons prior to that. Ðiliff«»(Talk)00:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Second thought, isn't that the fact that the arch is gone making this picture RATHER VALUALBE? The other day we featured a lion sculpture that was gone forever. Now we are opposing this one for the same reason? Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I tend to agree with you. It's called Island Archway because it was an arch. I think as long as the article shows a before and after photo, it's useful. But that does, as you said above, require an article written on it to really have EV. It doesn't have much EV elsewhere as an historical photo (such as the Great Ocean Rd article) as it's too obscure a subject. Ðiliff«»(Talk)21:05, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This picture is better that the Flickr one mentioned above, and yes, it is valuable because it shows why it was called that way. But it needs an article. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:12, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Definition is well, but the focus of soil and grey grass on the bottom of picture aren't accurate, the overcast weather also affecting composition and viewer's mood, should possibly retake in fine weather days. Exploringlife (talk) 18:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The painting stretches across two four panel folding screens from circa 1590; it is made of paper covered with gold leaf, depicting a cypress tree, the symbol of long life in Japan.
Reason
Big file, 20,880 × 7,822 pixels, sharp, EV, considered as a National Treasure of Japan. The folding screen is a representative work Kano Eitoku. It is a four hundred years old polychrome-and-gold screen from the Momoyama period (1573-1615). The painting depicts a cypress tree against the backdrop of gold-leafed clouds, and surrounded by the dark blue waters of a pond.
Well, that's the ridiculous name the national treasures folk give it. It's probably got another name that everyone else uses. Same deal with the Hikone screen. Curly Turkey¡gobble!20:56, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we can involve Curly Turkey...looks to me he needs some recreation from hiscurrentactivities. His Japanese should be up to date, since he was living in Japan for the last couple of years. Hafspajen (talk) 12:49, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As a national treasure, I imagine there should be sufficient RSes to put together an article, though ja.wp doesn't have one. I started an article on another national treasure & byōbu, the Hikone screen, a while ago, but haven't had the time to fill it out yet. Curly Turkey¡gobble!20:51, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The scene is depicting the Annunciation, the white lilies, water flask are symbolizing the Virgin's purity, the dove above her head is the symbol of the Holy Spirit, while the iris is a symbol of suffering.
Reason
The painting has a featured article written on it. Good scan, painting by early Netherlandish painter Hans Memling. Virgin Mary in her bedchamber with a royally dressed Archangel Gabriel and his angels. (Wouldn't mind that frame cropped, though)
Support And now I've remembered that I promised Victoria that I'd comment on the FAC and never did. Thanks Hafs, for making me feel bad :P. (The frame could go, as it it isn't original). Belle (talk) 01:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The choir of Condom Cathedral, a Catholic church, former cathedral, and a national monument of France located in Condom, Gers. It was formerly the seat of the Bishops of Condom.
Reason
We need more churches, and this one's a magnificent specimen.
Support Looks good to me - can't see any issues, and the clarity is lovely. Certainly doesn't "rubber" me up the wrong way... gazhiley08:55, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support but don't tell Diliff we are cheating on him with another photographer of church interiors.No condom puns; get me, Miss Self-Restrained Belle (talk) 11:00, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – From the article: "Hurricane Erika was a weak hurricane that struck extreme northeastern Mexico near the Texas-Tamaulipas border in mid-August of the 2003 Atlantic hurricane season."
Support though I can't see the subject very well because of all the clouds; aren't there any pictures of this with clear skies? Belle (talk) 00:32, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The Four Continents, also known as The Four Rivers of Paradise, is a painting by Flemish artist Peter Paul Rubens, made in the 1610s. In the traditional interpretation it depicts the female personifications of four continents (Europe, Asia, Africa and America) sitting with the personifications of their respective major rivers – the Danube, the Ganges, the Nile and the Río de la Plata.
Reason
This is of higher resolution than what the museum website currently offers.
Support -- Nice that we feature Rubens. He is truly on of the giants of the art history. People use to frown about the fact that he liked big women, well, he did. He liked life, and all the good things that come with it, food, vine, women, pleasures and so what? But he was also an extraordinary man, not only a very good painter but a gifted diplomat, a kind and gentle person, and his technique and brushwork is just fantastic. Hafspajen (talk) 14:06, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It'a a high quality 'action portrait' of Katie Swan, an up and coming 16 year old British tennis player and one to look out for in the future. It's used as the lead image in the infobox in her article.
What was wrong with the original and could you have left her right arm in the crop? La Belle (talk) Dame Sans Merci 12:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC) You have a strange idea of action; are we supposed to imagine that, like her namesake (sweet!), than her legs are paddling frantically while her top half is serenely immobile? Belle (talk) 12:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, infobox portrait images are better when they're cropped reasonably tight so that the person is easily identifiable in the thumbnail. The original was uncropped and although it shows a bit more of her arm and the tennis racquet, I don't think it necessarily does much for the composition. I suppose 'action portrait' is a general term. I meant it in the sense that this isn't posed - she is in the middle of a game of tennis, even if she isn't in the middle of a swing or something. :-) From memory, she's about to receive a serve. But yes, if it helps, imagine her with duck legs padding on a lake of grass lawn. :-) Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:20, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support then (though I like your other photo that's in the article more, especially the grumpy men in the background). Belle (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I like that one too. It captures a pretty special moment, she is currently ranked ~800 in the world, and she had just defeated the world 118th ranked player in straight sets. The scoreboard behind her reflects the result there's a genuine elation on her face. I actually took a lot of photos of her as it was an entertaining match to watch. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:54, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support lovely picture.Could spend a lot of time studying this.Very pretty girl.Very sweet.Those eyes just make you want to melt...and...er...oh...yes..Support.Move along-I'll join you in a minute or two... Lemon martini (talk) 14:34, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Original – The Denial of Saint Peter (1620-1625)
Reason
File from Google Cultural Institute, high res. The Flemish Gerard Seghers (1591 – 1651) was an interesting person. He was a painter but also Flemish art collector and art dealer. He wac counted as and one of the leading Caravaggisti in the Netherlands, the guys that use the dramatic lights and shadows.
File from German Aerospace Center, high resolution, one of a rare shots showing a launch of Arianespace Soyuz, with some great features and composition. It's a historically significant photograph, showing the first launch of Soyuz outside of the former Soviet Union territory. And finally: We have a huge deficit of non-US featured pictures in Space categories - if passed, that would be the first featured picture from Europe's spaceport.
Support I like the contrast with the "Hollywood" NASA launch shots; this is more "Have we got 5 mins while I fetch my camera from the car?" Belle (talk) 01:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, Support with white background - This image would be better served on a white background, as shown on the NGA museum website. Reason: the rounded edge of the painting disappears fused into the background toward the left. This artifact does not occur on a white background. Also, the "black square" is distracting from the actual painting. The black background could easily be changed to white, in which case this is an obvious Support. Coldcreation (talk) 05:55, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Coldcreation about the black background, but the white background loses the detail of the physical edge of the tondo. Can we see it in another colour? Toasted almond or glacier grey? Belle (talk) 07:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think the physical edge of the tondo is essential to the image. Perhaps the larger file (with the black background) should be modified by changing the background to white (rather than gray), yet retaining the edge of the tondo. This is a relatively straightforward (simple) modification to make. Coldcreation (talk) 08:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A problem with changing colors like this is that there are generally fringes left over. The original Google file (still accessible) has a black background, and thus it's possible that, even if the background were changed, there'd be some black fringing left. That being said, the majority of our FPs with a neutral background have a black background. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Fringing" takes about 5 minutes to do away with. That is not a problem. What is a problem is the black background. It is most certainly not neutral. It is blacker than Malevich's Black Square. White is neutral since Wikipedia article have a white background (white on white). Any other color would not be (i.e., a square would be visible). It is not because the majority of FPs have a black background that this image should too. If anyone would like, I will do away with the black background (along with any residual fringing). Coldcreation (talk) 13:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note, the painting itself no longer fuses with the background. There is no fringing, yet the tondo is visible just as in the image with a black background. I will proceed, just as a test, to post this image (with the white background) into the Wikipedia article about the painting. Feel free to revert it, but consider the possibility that the work is better seen like this (without the black square). Coldcreation (talk) 18:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So, now that we have the same image on a neutral white background, I would recommend this new upload be the Featured picture candidate, rather than the "black square" version. Notice how the painting stands out now, in all its roundness, design and color. Does anyone agree, Chris Woodrich, Hafspajen? Coldcreation (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Aug 2015 at 11:06:48 (UTC)
Original – An Egyptian Fellah woman with her child (Danish: En egyptisk fellahkvinde med sit barn), 1878. Let me just lie down in my finery among these monuments and ineffectually shade my little cherub from the sunset.
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It's another painting by a (naturalised-)Danish woman artist; sue me. Big, beautiful, totally OTT romantisied for the European market; considered a bit racy in its day and tucked away out of sight.
Support - Not to delighted by the artist's other works, but this particular painting is indeed listed as one of the highlights of the Danish paintings. Hafspajen (talk) 23:09, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: I can't see any JPG artefacting... it could be a tiny bit sharper, but artefacts? Still though - I'll abstain from voting until better sourcing is provided SkywalkerPL (talk) 21:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
for when searching for treasures?
Hafspajen (talk) 12:19, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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Sca (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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I withdraw my nomination per consensus above. --Pine✉ 16:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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Seriously, I sympathize. I'm sure you know better than I what lens works best in a situation like this. Alas, the distortion is there, making it difficult to satisfy criterion No. 1. (I won't oppose since it's apparently the best that can be done.) Sca (talk) 12:36, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Sca (talk) 12:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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Done. Thanks for the suggestion! --Hubertl (talk) 19:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC).jpg)
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Sca (talk) 14:01, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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