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The Oppression Remedy

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Found no sigcov on this book. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Advokatfirman Vinge

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No secondary sources explicitly about the company. I can't find any myself either. I don't believe this company meets WP:CORP. This article was discussed in AfD almost 10 years ago, but I believe the editorial interpretation of notability has shifted since then. Niashervin (talk) 14:10, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Illegal deregulation in New York City

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This article fails WP:NOTESSAY with its argumentative, WP:NPOV tone and non-encyclopedic approach to its subject matter. As an example of WP:NOT, it thus fails part two of WP:GNG. The subject matter is already covered encyclopedically at Rent regulation in New York. (Note on history: this page was draftified as part of New Page Review to give the creator time to revise into an actual article, but the page creator objected to draftification so it has been restored to mainspace and nominated for deletion.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a POV pushing content fork of Rent regulation in New York. Cullen328 (talk) 02:23, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Law, and New York. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Rent regulation in New York as it is a legitimate sub-topic of that subject. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 18:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, the NPOV issues and ESSAY format make this unsuitable for a merge. The title itself is problematic per WP:NDESC, so it's unsuitable as a redirect too. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or merge into Rent regulation in New York, per Cameron Dewe's rationale above, with the caveat that there isn't really much to merge. I don't agree with the nom that the title is problematic—rent deregulation is a genuine trend in NYC, not something the page creator made up, and WP:POVTITLE allows "non-neutral but common names" such as this one. – Epicgenius (talk) 22:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge My first impression is that this is likely to be POV and we should delete it. Upon a careful read, it's not as bad as I thought it would be but still needs work to render it neutral. Cameron Dewe's merge recommendation seems best to me. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refresher

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No mentions with a Google search and searches on legal glossary websites TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Clearly sourced. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A quick web search shows that this is a genuine term term [1] [2], it is used by law firms to describe their fee structure, [3] [4] [5] and is recognised by the courts [6]. But none of that takes this article beyond a DICDEF and the article ought to go for that reason. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soft redirect to wiktionary there is nothing other than a dictionary deifnition here, and there is no reason to expect there ever will be. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martha Mbugua

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No satisfactory sources in the article, and a quick search didn't find any. Note: this was prompted by a request at the help desk on behalf of the subject. ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Also found this in the help desk, for me personally, I suggest keeping the article, my reason is because she co-founded (is that correct?) the biggest law firm in Kenya, and is one of the top 40 most popular women from Kenya.

Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 01:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:TheNuggeteer, more important than your opinion on this subject is how you would counter the reasons offered in the deletion rationale. What sources support your claim of notability? Please be specific. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, sources 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are the sources which prompt me to give the "keep" reply. She does not seem notable outside the business, I'll give you that, but being one of the top 40 women from a country is enough for me.🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 05:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer, please read what Wikipedia means by notable. 2 and 6 do not mention her. 3 and 7 (which are the same source) has a potted biography, but is mostly quoting her. 5 gives me a 404, but judging by its title, I would be amazed if it had significant coverage of her. 8 and 9 give potted biographies, but are almost certainly not independent.

Sources used to establish notability need to meet all three criteria in WP:42. ColinFine (talk) 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:23, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naomi Biden

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The sources, in order:

1. Less-than-exemplary fast facts article about Naomi in Town & Country

2. List of Joe Biden's seven grandchildren, including Naomi, with fast facts in People

3. Celebrity wedding coverage from Cosmopolitan

4. Passing coverage

5. Wedding coverage

6. Wedding coverage

7. Wedding coverage

8. Apparently the same Town & Country fast facts article as #1

9. Passing coverage

10. Passing coverage

11. Wedding coverage (interview)

12. Celebrity gossip in People (coverage of Naomi being in the Hamptons with Tiffany Trump)

13. Coverage of her and Tiffany graduating college

14. Wedding coverage

15. White House press release

16. Wedding coverage

17. Today Show interview with relatives about Joe Biden

18. Wedding coverage

19. White House press release about wedding

20. Wedding coverage

21. Passing mention in coverage of weddings

22. Wedding coverage

23. Juror says Naomi shouldn't have had to testify against Hunter

So, overall, it would appear that Naomi has done little else to gather press coverage than get married. Lots of rich people get married in ceremonies whose rich and famous guests attract gossipy press. That doesn't establish notability. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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And see the similar Articles for deletion/Finnegan Biden ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as clearly more notable than Finnegan. Was Finnegan reported in the press for being school chums with a Trump whelp? Did Finnegan testify the trial of Hunter Biden? was Finnegan the first in history to marry on the south lawn of the White House? Hyperbolick (talk) 09:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We aren't debating Finnegan, and we don't even know who that is. Oaktree b (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Finnegan is Naomi Biden's sister. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 16:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. clearly only famous by being related to biden. is not notable on her own and publishing wedding info feels like wp:GOSSIP Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not going to push for a keep or delete but if this gets deleted, I don't see many reasons for keeping the page for Tiffany Trump. Killuminator (talk) 22:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INVALIDBIO def applies here I think. The only thing Naomi is famous for is a wedding and being related to Biden.

Tiffany Trump appears.. similar honestly. If she weren't related to Trump, only thing going for her in terms of notability is the instagram posting and social media influencer career paragraph, and thats not much. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 04:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: !Keep vote rationale is just WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. There is no standalone notability for the subject related to Biden doesn't guarantee notability. Also, WP:INHERITED. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete: I'm not seeing notability on her own, most seems to be drawn from the other Bidens. Somewhat routine career. Most coverage is about her being present when other Biden "things" are happening. Oaktree b (talk) 15:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete simple google news search only reveals WP:PASSING mention and the wedding. I doubt it even qualifies for WP:SINGLEEVENT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 22:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Family of Joe Biden#Grandchildren. Of the coverage of her public life, most is still actually coverage of her grandfather and family. hinnk (talk) 03:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep or Redirect to Family of Joe Biden#Grandchildren. I created this article but do not feel strongly that it needs to stay. There is the coverage of her public life, and quite a lot of media attention, but most is still fairly trivial. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep or Redirect to Family of Joe Biden#Grandchildren. The article can always be recreated if she gains notability through her own actions. Keivan.f^Talk 06:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
True. I support a redirect. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:32, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International Franchise Association

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Article was previously deleted in 2013 after an AfD. Recreated in 2020. I don't see any reason to dispute the result of that AfD; there is still little in-depth coverage cited on this page. Outside of the Supreme Court case (which appears to have been sparsely covered), the only coverage is a few mentions from minor trade publications. I tried looking for more on Google, but all I could find were press releases. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: In-depth coverage from independent and reliable sources is needed to meet WP:GNG. Its small role in a Supreme Court case does not make it notable.--AstridMitch (talk) 04:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. ✗plicit 13:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closer: see concerns at ANI that the AFD !votes by AstridMitch, now blocked, are LLM-aided. Abecedare (talk) 20:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, not eligible for Soft Deletion.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's actually quite a bit of WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS for this organization, which has received news coverage for its activity on many issues, including local minimum wage mandates (NBC News, CBS News, Entrepreneur, Reuters), joint employer laws/regulation (NYTimes, Wall St. Journal, Entrepreneur, home health aide employment (NYT ed board), IFA's data partnership with the Census Bureau (NBER) -- plus academic articles in Enterprise and Society and Competitiveness Review, and items in the Business Journals and BisNow. Altogether, I see a pass of WP:NORG that didn't exist at the time of the last AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]