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Wikidata identifiers for new Species Files databases

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I've made a proposal to add nine new Species Files identifiers to Wikidata so they can be added to {{taxonbar}}s. The new Species Files cover the polyneopteran orders Zoraptera, Dermaptera, Plecoptera, Grylloblattodea, Mantophasmatodea, Embioptera and "Isoptera", as well as hemipteran groups Aphidomorpha and Coleorrhyncha.

Please contribute to the discussion at d:Wikidata:Property_proposal/Identifiers_for_Species_Files_databases. I think support has to be added to each proposal separately. —  Jts1882 | talk  15:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dyanega: Thank you for supporting my proposal for the new Wikidata identifiers for the new Species Files databases. Unfortunately, the way I set up the proposal with one general section and nine individual identifier proposals was not the appropriate way. The general section where you added your support (at d:Wikidata:Property_proposal/Identifiers_for_Species_Files_databases) has been removed from proposal page (at d:Wikidata:Property_proposal/Natural_science. After AdamSeattle added support for four of the proposals, identifiers were created (Zoraptera Species File taxon ID (P12753), Dermaptera Species File taxon ID (P12750), wdp|P12751}} and Isoptera Species File taxon ID (P12752)), but that still leaves proposals for the Plecoptera, Grylloblattodea, Mantophasmatodea, Aphid and Coleorrhyncha Species Files needing support by someone other than me.
In addition I've created a proposal for a new Orthoptera Species Files identifier to use the new IDs in the updated database. I don't know if they will prefer a new identifier or to get a bot to update the >30,000 wikidata items using the old SF database. I'll see what happens with this proposal before creating proposals for others that have been updated.  —  Jts1882 | talk  17:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nine new species files identifiers have been created: Dermaptera Species File taxon ID (P12750), Embioptera Species File taxon ID (P12751), Isoptera Species File taxon ID (P12752), Zoraptera Species File taxon ID (P12753), Aphid Species File taxon ID (P12767), Grylloblattodea Species File taxon ID (P12768), Mantophasmatodea Species File taxon ID (P12769), Plecoptera Species File taxon ID (P12770), and Coleorrhyncha Species File taxon ID (P12771). I don't know the timetable for when Wikidata will get populated with the data.
The remaining issue is with the species files that already had wikidata identifier, which have different id numbers in the updated database. The old ones now redirect to the archived sites, so I've suggested new identifiers for the updated identifier. I've created a new proposal for the Orthoptera Species File and if that is accepted I'll create the other proposals (for Phasmida, Mandodea, cockroach, Psocodea, Lygaeoidea and Coreoidea).  —  Jts1882 | talk  15:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dyanega and AdamSeattle: Identifier Orthoptera Species File taxon ID (new) (P12785) has been created for new version of the Orthoptera Species File.
I've now created proposals for the other four species files with existing identifiers that have been updated, which need support:
That will complete the IDs for the new Taxonworks Species Files. There are two others under development with previews on GitHub but they are not live yet. —  Jts1882 | talk  12:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All the Species Files that have been updated to TaxonWorks now have new Wikidata identifiers that will appear in {{taxonbar}}. It may take some time for a bot to populate Wikidata. Two more Species Files are pending an update and have developmental version on GitHub, but are not live yet.
I've also created {{cite speciesfile}}, which is a citation template that wraps {{cite web}} and will automatically add website and editors parameters.  —  Jts1882 | talk  12:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have details about Pyrops and Scamandra species in Nagai & Porion 1996, 2002, and 2004?

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I would like to know: The exact island where Pyrops jefferyi is found on. Exact island on which Scamandra agnes and shiinae are found on. Details about Pyrops ochracea and its distribution Uploader1234567890 (talk) 14:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See the map at https://flow.hemiptera-databases.org/flow/?page=explorer&db=flow&lang=en&card=taxon&rank=species&id=17232 for Scamandra agnes (Lesser Sunda Islands, but not exact islands) and https://flow.hemiptera-databases.org/flow/?page=explorer&db=flow&lang=en&card=taxon&rank=species&id=17236 for Scamandra shiinae (Sumatra).  —  Jts1882 | talk  17:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am looking for the exact island. For shiinae I wonder whether it is from mentawai islands. Uploader1234567890 (talk) 06:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately Nagai & Porion 2004 is not available on the web so you'd need to find a library or purchase the book (e.g. here. Alternatively, the holotype is at the Musée d'Histoire Naturelle de Lyon, but they don't have an online catalogue. The exact location might not be available as the FLOW website says Sumatra with no further information and I assume they have access to Nagai & Porion 2004. You could try emailing Thierry Bourgoin at FLOW (email in the contact page). —  Jts1882 | talk  08:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
((...I assume that they have access to Nagai & Porion 2004...))
Funny thing, you may assume that he does have those papers but the truth is not. If you want to inspect on this, then see this paper, and then the notes I have given below in this comment:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280083896_Review_of_the_effusus_group_of_the_Lanternfly_genus_Pyrops_Spinola_1839_with_one_new_species_and_notes_on_trophobiosis_Hemiptera_Fulgoromorpha_Fulgoridae (Page 3)
On page 3, It is written as follows:
"Nagai & Porion 1996 ... They synonymized dimotus and sapphirinus with cyanirostris ..."
I have no recent paper published after their works revising their status. So why aren't they synonyized on FLOW?
Another proof that they had synonized sapphirinus is here:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/35993029
There in the notes it's written:
"...I follow Nagai & Porion 1996, who synonomized Pyrops sapphirinus with P. cyanirostris..."
I hope you understand. If you know some Wikipedia who does have all 3 (1996, 2002 and ) Uploader1234567890 (talk) 10:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Potential significant change to species notability

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Over on Wikipedia talk:Notability‎, several editors are working on a draft proposal to replace our current notability guidelines for species (all species are notable) with something much more restrictive (only species that go beyond certain limited pieces of information would be allowed their own articles). If you have opinions on this issue, now would be a good time to weigh in there. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I find a simple physical description of a termite

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For Microhodotermes viator; I can't find a physical description anywhere beyond these body length figures. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 13:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanahary:, there's a description (as Hodotermes viator) starting on the bottom of this page [1]. There's quite a bit more about it on the 9 previous pages (mostly discussing it in relation to similar species, but also including Latreille's original description (in French)). Plantdrew (talk) 17:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asking for help - Brachytemnus, and Bryophacis articles

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Greetings, Since this topic I know very little about, I'm hoping for expert here. Both articles need at least one incoming link in order to remove the Orphan tag.

Thanks for helping improve these two articles. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 19:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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