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Djsasso

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Djsasso (talk · contribs)

Ended:January 15

Result: Promoted (17-1)

Nomination by Razorflame: Today, I would like to present Djsasso to the community for the sysop flag. He already has the flag over on en:WP, which is much harder to achieve than here on the Simple English Wikipedia. He has been editing here for around 8 months now.

He likes to write articles about all kinds of things, likes to revert vandalism, has participated in many discussions here on the Simple English Wikipedia, has made over 1,300 edits to this site, most of which are in the mainspace, has very good understanding of all relevant policies and is overall a great choice for administrator. I hope that you guys agree ;). Razorflame 03:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate's acceptance: Even though this nomination has taken me a bit by surprise, I certainly accept it as I am sure my previous experience can only be an asset to the project. -Djsasso (talk) 03:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support

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  1. Support – As nominator. Razorflame 03:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support – I've enjoyed his constructive comments around discussion pages. Is always civil, positive in discussions, and definitely knows his way around. Good contributions to mainspace also. Acts like an administrator, and could do more tasks as an administrator for our project. Already has experience as an administrator already, so he should know what to do. He's already done some maintenance work around Simple English Wikipedia with several dozens of QD tags, along with several WP:VIP reports (I believe). The only concern I have is that Djsasso doesn't use edit summaries all the time, so I hope he improves on this, but that alone isn't enough for me to warrant an oppose, as he does use edit summaries around 85% of the time. — RyanCross (talk) 04:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support - Per RyanCross, does much administrator work that he can do without admin privelages. MathCool10 06:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support - Per Kennedy. Kennedy (talk) 08:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Per everyone. Can do a lot of admin work here. - Æåm Fætsøn /ˈaɪæm ˈfætsən/ 09:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support AGF, never really worked personally with him, but am confident he can do a good job. Shapiros10 Flap the Yap 12:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support --§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 19:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Don't see why not. ѕwirlвoy ₪ 00:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Strong support - Though I am sure he was trying hard to be good in the discussion below, his comments are highly civil and show administrative qualities. The more I edit Wikimedia projects, the more I realize 'adminship truly isn't a big deal, it's nothing but buttons. American Eagle (talk) 02:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Strong support—Hell yes. Maxim(talk) 02:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Strong support I think this user won't abuse the tool at all. He is quite kind. So good luck to you! TurboGolf 09:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Of course. Malinaccier (talk) (review) 00:38, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support I trust that with his response below, he will continue be active and a net asset to the project. Synergy 02:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Strongly support - per above.-- CM16 MLB  07:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support - As much as I hate "per x" supports, it's all I can really say here. Everyone else has said all of my thoughts. BG7even 10:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Strong support - Per Bluegoblin7. ;) ★ Braingle (Contact me + Contribs) 02:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support Per User:Yotcmdr, does anyone really *need* the tools. After scanning the contributions, I don't see anything problematic. NonvocalScream (talk) 02:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

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Off topic discussion moved to talk. Majorly talk 21:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Weakly oppose - I'm very sorry I have to oppose, but I don't really see the need of the tools. I could only spot about 10 QD tags and 1 report to VIP; in 8 months, that isn't very many (not sure, but comparing to my 65 QD's and 10 VIP reports in 3 months it isn't anyway). Very sorry again. Hopefully, you can make me change my mind. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 17:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    (striking because I'm beeing criticised too much for me to continue arguing, and before I decide to stop editing because of this, but my opinion is still the same Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 18:08, 12 January 2009 (UTC))(unstriking)[reply]
Djsasso's an enwiki admin, so if anyone can spot a speedy deletable page or judge whether a vandalism block is appropriate, he can. One doesn't necessarily need loads of QDs and reports to ViP; as long as the candidate knows and has a clear history (which Djsasso does), there is little chance of tool abuse. I'm not disputing your !vote, necessarily; I just think that your fear would not be vindicated. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not fear that he wouldn't be able to. I'm sure he would! (even I can do it!) But in this case, it's not that he would mis-use the tools, it's that he's not active enough, because the numbers I gave before, are very low (even for simple). Yotcmdr =talk to the commander=17:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is precisely why I didn't vote in your RfA Yot. I didn't see a need for the tools. In fact, I still don't really. I've found that while you were active, vandalism was rampant, and you could have used your tools. Sadly, you didn't. I believe Djsasso will, and at this point, he doesn't have to convince you of anything, hes passing without you. Synergy 17:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Harsh Synergy, harsh with me. (I know he doesn't need my vote, but just supports looks better) Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 17:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I had a whole big paragraph typed up in reply to this earlier. I must not have hit enter. But basically it comes down to I am more often than not beat to the punch in QDs as I tend type out long winded explanations and others just type QD. (whereas with the ability to do it myself that wouldn't be an issue as I can just hit delete). As for VIP reports, I subscribe to the 3 warning standard so I warn 3 times before I report, and on this wiki people have either blocked them already by that point or they have gone away by the time they are warned a couple times, unlike en.wiki. In the end I am rarely the 4th person to have warned them and thus report them. Just like anyone who would oppose me I respect your !vote. I tend to be a wikignome so deleting qds etc and blocking vandals is right up my ally. And as a side note, don't let people disagreeing with you cause you to stop editing, because if you do you will stop pretty quickly as wikis are full of people who will always disagree with you. Just take the debate in stride and maybe something will change your mind or theirs. Remember you can't please all the people all of the time. -Djsasso (talk) 20:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Of course I can't please everyone all the time, but I just want my Point of View clear on things. Also, for the VIP's, you warn 3 times before you report. I always warn 4 time + wait for the edit after final warning before warning at VIP (not that I have to warn at VIP anymore). SO I don't know, anyway, I do not doubt your ability to be an admin at simple and wish you the best of luck. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 20:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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I'm concerned because your edit count to the mainspace is a little low for being here this long. As well as your QD's (a little over 8 or so). For this growing wiki, I feel any new admins need to be active in our mainspace. But then again, I have also noticed a semi-backlog at QD (for us, I'd say more than 5 articles in our QD cat is a backlog given that at least one admin is on at pretty much all times). More from me after I do a bit more digging. Synergy 21:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on how active you consider active. Approximately 200 edits a month is pretty active in my books. But I think edit counts probably don't acurately show how much I am here. I am pretty much around 12 hours or more a day. I just don't edit consistantly here during that time because as is noted my main focus is my editing at en.wiki where I am at something like 40,000 edits. I don't think counting edits on this site is very accurate here, because there is a tendancy here to just rack up edits on one line stubs which inflates edit counts and since I don't do that much my edits will be alot lower than most. I also now run a bot here which is already over a few thousand edits which are technically mine. But I don't like counting edits myself so there isn't really much I can say about that. -Djsasso (talk) 21:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think more like 500 a month is active. But I don't think it's a problem.Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 21:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I didn't mean you have to create hundreds of pages/stubs exactly. That's just what a few of us do, because we like to. What I mean is, our articles are important to me because I know for a fact that there are plenty of people who will not come here because they either do not support the basis of our existence, or think its a joke. And with that in mind, I'd prefer to support a candidate with full knowledge that they have our best intentions with every edit. Because I want this project to succeed, and I want our admins to personify themselves as exemplary editors. Synergy 21:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand what you are saying. All I can say to that is if I didn't support this wiki's mission, I wouldn't be here and certainly wouldn't be running for admin. But definately dig away and ask anything you feel you need to ask I am open to helping clarify anything you feel is relevant. -Djsasso (talk) 21:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I removed some personal attacks and drama mongering above, related to my oppose, which I have withdrawn, when I considered that "no need for more bureaucrats", poor argument as it is, was not the only one presented at the RFBs in question. Majorly talk 15:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you, I appreciate it. Just for clarification, my argument was more we aren't desperate enough to need them to overlook the other issues I mentioned. Had there been no other issues I would have supported. And I also note I withdrew my oppose on one of them. -Djsasso (talk) 15:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I must say I have been impressed with the way you are handling this. Consider me on the fence for now. My oppose was mostly sparked from an unexplainable "bad feeling", which I blamed on the RFBs. People incorrectly decided that it was a revenge vote, which is pretty sad, but then again, this is Wikipedia where accusations of bad faith are thrown around like they're going out of fashion. It was nothing like a revenge vote, I'm not that pathetic. I'll do a little more research. Majorly talk 15:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question from NonvocalScream

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Hi. Good luck with the nomination, I hope the best. I have a question, do you feel comfortable with GFDL and other copyright issues? Have you done much work with it? Best, NonvocalScream (talk) 20:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I feel comfortable with GFDL, I don't work with it a whole lot other than what anyone who edits on wikipedia does. (ie everything we enter onto here becomes GFDL). As far as other copyright issues I have worked in the past on en.wiki fixing and/or removing them when it comes to text copied from other websites and used in articles. When it comes to image copyright issues, I rarely venture there cause its just asking for trouble and since this wiki solely uses commons images it doesn't really come into play here. -Djsasso (talk) 00:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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