“I keep posting that these signs are about the ultra-greedy manipulating people to act against their own best interest and in favor of the ultra-greedy who manipulated them.
It's been deleted twice. I've posted it for the third time. We'll see if they delete it again.
I can't figure out why they keep deleting it unless Arianna Huffington is actually one of the ultra-greedy and operating this website is her attempt to get us to act against our self-interest.”
The ultra-greedy want to protect their ability to rob the rest of us blind.
So, they use propaganda and lies to push people's hot buttons. Unfortunately, they're really good at it and we aren't.
So, they convince us unions are evil, liberals are evil, European socialism is evil, environmentalist are nuts, throwing money at public schools only wastes the money, government can do nothing well, businesses always act to benefit everyone, businesses would act even better if we didn't tax or regulate them, universal health care will murder grandma, and Obama is a national socialist.
Truth has nothing to do with it. Reality has nothing to do with it. It's all about protecting the ultra-greedy gravy train.
They know if they keep repeating the lies and pushing hot buttons, eventually the lies start to sound true, and they can keep us so busy fighting each other, they'll have nothing to worry about.
Assuming they're racists gives them too much credit, because that would mean they actually believe what they say. If pumping out racism works, they do it. If pumping out fear of terrorist attack works, they do it. It has absolutely nothing to do with what they believe.
It's all about what works. The ultra-greedy will do anything, say anything, and stop at nothing to manipulate the public into acting against our own self-interest and do the bidding of the ultra-greedy.”
“More likely, the ignorant who did this were stimulated to do it by the propaganda campaign of the ultra-greedy to manipulate us into giving them even more of our money. The ultra-greedy aren't doing it because they are racists. They're doing it because they are greedy.”
“If you think they are racists, you give them too much credit. They may be, but that's beside the point.
They spout the lies because their goal is to consolidate power for the ultra-greedy and that's what works. Obama's black, so they use racism, If Obama were gay, they'd go after him for that. If he were an atheist...
They are pushing hot buttons and keeping us fighting each other. Just because they promote racism, doesn't make them racists. It makes them cynical manipulators who will say anything, do anything, and stop at nothing to protect their selfish and greedy interests. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/12/missouri-billboard-associ_n_680181.html#
It's a crasser version of the Willie Horton revolving prison door ad, or the Jesse Helms ad featuring black hands accepting a job while white hands hold a rejection letter.
If promoting racism works, they will do it - no matter who gets hurt. They don't have the integrity or character to promote what they actually believe. In a really sick and twisted way, at least the KKK stands up what they actually believe - which deserves more respect then simply pushing racism because it works protects their wealth”
“The billboard is perfect because it exposes the Repugnants for exactly what they are.
I hope they put up more of these billboards and others equally hateful and asinine ones.
All it does is expose the Repugnants for what they are. If they're willing to make these blatantly false statements, it brings everything they say into question. They're liars. They're only out for their own benefit.
All it will do is motivate people to come to Obama's defense.
Look at me, I've been explaining to people why I'm disappointed in Obama and now, here I am defending him.
He!!, maybe we should be sending them money to put up more billboards.”
“No, I don't. I'm a liberal, too, but I'm tired of the ultra progressives like Ed Shultz and others always whining about what the president should do. Look at what this man has accomplished in 20 months. Get real.”
“Why is it that when the ultra-greedy screw everyone else to line their pockets, that's business, that's the American Way, that's patriotic - they're living the American Dream?
But when everyone else wants some tax equity, good schools, infrastructure, and jobs - we're lazy socialists who don't understand that we have to work for what we get?”
“You left out the part about the "ultra-greedy" screwing up THEMSELVES and running to "everybody else" to bail THEM out!!! Think $700 billion in 2008. And The S&L scandal under Reagan. "Private profit, public risk" is their motto. No more! Never again!!”
“Because with greed...lazy socialists just hinder the process when one becomes even greedier. The truth of it is...they (the ones actually living the American Dream while the rest are stuck with the American Nightmare) wanted to make sure everyone misunderstood & feared the word Socialism & well...money talks & they have all of it & so it is easy to pay people to scare the flock. Socialism is a thorn in the side of the greedy elite. (ie: US CoC , WallSt, Big banks, etc. + the bought off lawmakers who have the dream of being THAT elite too after aiding with the pillaging)”
“I will never criticize anyone for enlisting in our armed forces, even when the war is a huge mistake, and mismanaged.
I have three brothers who served in the armed forces. Two are retired. The third died an early death due to his Vietnam experience. My nephew died in Iraq.
Our armed forces are filled by good people who have patriotic motivations, like the lifestyle, or are desperate for jobs.
I'm extremely disappointed that anyone would blame a member of our armed forces for their own death because they enlisted. Tillman was lied to and manipulated just like the rest of the people in our country.”
“We will continue to abuse our armed forces to benefit the economic fortunes of the ultra-greedy until two things happen:
1. We must reinstate the draft with no deferments except for conscientious objection or not being physically or mentally capable of serving. As long as the ultra-greedy make money on wars and the working classes fight them, we will continue to have war after war, after war, pushed upon us by lies.
But, that's not enough since I think the ultra-greedy would send their own children off to die for a shockingly small amount of profit. So, we must have item 2:
2. We must have publicly funded elections so that the voters own our elected officials instead of the ultra-greedy owning them. As long as the ultra-greedy call the shots, they'll stop at nothing, no matter how much suffering and death they cause, for the bragging rights afforded by an extra zero on the end of their bank balance.”
“No. I don't understand their embarrassment over friendly fire incidents any more than I understand their embarrassment over PTSD.
The fact that they covered it up and lied seems extreme to me unless they actually had something to hide. Perhaps, it wasn't friendly fire, but fragging or homocide, or egregious abandonment of proper safety precautions.
Or, most likely, they were embarrassed that this happened to someone important with a high profile enlistment story - so they lied because they wanted to keep using that story for recruitment.
In any event, they never would have thought to cover it up, except that they don't think people killed by friendly fire deserve respect.”
"Friendly fire" is an unavoidable part of war. It is tragic, but then all death and destruction in war is tragic.
The problem here is that all soldiers who have been injured or died in friendly fire are equally as heroic as those killed by the enemy -- Only now we know that the United States Armed Forces don't think so.
By covering up that Tillman was killed by friendly fire, they demeaned the injuries and death of every service member killed by friendly fire.”
“The only solution is publicly funded campaigns with modest contributions from VOTERS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN AN ELECTION and limited to $50.00 per year or $100.00 per year in a year with a primary.
As long as the ultra-greedy own our elected officials, we have no chance.
I hoped that since Obama had received more small contributions from more voters, than anyone in U. S. history, that he might be able to stand up to the ultra-greedy.
Now, I don't know if the ultra-greedy own Obama, or if he simply doesn't have the spine to really stand up to them. Unfortunately, when you look at who he's surrounded himself with, it appears to be the former.
“yes, i agree wholeheartedly with your campaign funding idea. this is one of the greatest barriers we have to remove to change the current trend in government.”
“I don't think it requires a revolution to do something about DADT when 70+ percent want to get rid of it.
I don't think it requires a revolution to support a public option in health care, or even single payer, when well over 50% of the public support them.
I don't think it requires a revolution to support policy that we know works instead of caving in to Republicans whose objective is to weaken the policy so that it won't work well and it's merits will be questionable.
I don't think it requires a revolution to use the bully pulpit to educate the public and push for strong policy.
I don't think it requires a revolution for Obama to respect those who got him elected rather than those whose mission in life is to destroy him.”
“You have a valid point about health care, even though I still consider it true reform.
"And it's self-proclaimed LGBT "activists" saying they will stay home to punish democrats. Oh yeah? I think they mean punish the LGBT community ,for whom they pretend to advocate, because that is the net effect of such complacency."
Could you clarify?
I don't think self-proclaimed "gay activists" have any intention of punishing anyone. It's simply a matter of self-respect and principle. I, for one, have long ago acknowledged that the Democrats love taking our money while remaining relatively complicit in our marginalization.
It would be like a battered wife sticking with her husband just because he decides to beat her only half as much as usual.
What we need is more people to stand firm on principle, refusing to accept their role as a hostage in a two-party system that is clearly beyond dysfunctional.
Only then will these parties learn to truly respect the people. Right now, neither party does. They simply use, manipulate, and placate them.
I am disheartened that Mr. Obama seems to define "fierce advocate" as "hey, at least I'm not the other guy."
“Everything you say is true, but you fail to mention the stupidity of this particular attack at this particular moment.
Obama doesn't get credit for his accomplishments. But, when he gets something right and has a perfect setup to get credit for it, his press secretary stomps on it by attacking liberals. Dumb.
Jeez. Couldn't Gibbs at least have waited until it was the Republicans that were having a good news day to launch his ill-advised attack?
Thank you Mr. Gibbs for stomping on a carefully orchestrated piece of political theater that was both a great Democratic victory and a big black eye for the Republicans - Something everyone on the left, including the "professional left" could have been proud of.
The Republicans were forced to come back to Washington and eat crow while the Democrats passed an important jobs bill over Republican objections.
Just when I was thinking Obama and the Democrats were learning the propaganda game, what does Gibbs do? Gibbs lets me know I must've been mistaken to think that the Democrats were getting better at their game.
Gibbs attacks liberals and now the news is about the White House attacking liberals instead of the victory on the jobs bill.
And, the Gibbs defenders just don't get it:
Gibbs did this at the worst possible moment. Instead of basking in the victory for working people, Democrats, and Obama, and enjoying this political theater, Gibbs starts a food fight and proves Democrats don't have a clue. Sad.”
Thank you Mr. Gibbs for stomping on a carefully orchestrated piece of political theater that was both a great Democratic victory and a big black eye for the Republicans.
We had a good week. The Republicans were forced to come back to Washington and eat crow while the Democrats passed and important jobs bill over Republican objections.
But, what does Gibbs do? He attacks liberals and now the news is about the White House attacking liberals instead of the victory on the jobs bill.
And, the Gibbs defenders just don't get it:
GIBBS STOMPED ON A BIG OBAMA / DEMOCRATIC VICTORY BY ATTACKING LIBERALS AT THE WORST POSSIBLE MOMENT.
With "friends" like Gibbs, who needs enemies?
And, to those who say I shouldn't be offended because Gibbs wasn't talking about me, all I can say is that an awful lot of liberals, me included, certainly feel like we've been attacked. ESPECIALLY when the Obama supporters here attack us, driving home the point that Gibbs might not have been talking about us, we sure are a bunch of a$$holes who deserve to be attacked.”
“Yep, the media doesn't have anything to do with this...Nope...Un uh...No way...Nada...Not the media....not possible...they would never dramatoize anything...nope....un uh...Nada....No way...Just a question? Is the MS network blogging today?”
“Yet Gibbs is still press secretary, and Obama has said nothing to criticize what he said.
Sounds like Gibbs is expressing Obama's opinion to me. But then I figured that out already because, with politicians, actions speak so much louder (and truer) than words.”
“Yeah. that's a bummer. I actually went on that thread and congratulated them on a good bill. Now I plssed...., lol been that way fer a year and a half, man..., up one day, down the next three days..., lmao”
“The public responds to leadership, not compromise. (Thank you, Mark Vian!)
Obama needs to stand up and lead on the issues because:
He's got the bully pulpit and he could educate the public and get them to pressure congress to implement better legislation than what he got. He is, after all a gifted and persuasive politician.
By standing up and fighting, Obama would demonstrate core principles and clarify the difference between the Democratic platform and the Republican platform.
By standing up and fighting, he would back the Republicans into a corner where their obstructionism would be completely clear and obvious - Which would result in higher ratings for Obama and the Democrats, more Democratic enthusiasm, and the Democrats increasing our numbers in November to stop Republican obstructionism.
By standing and fighting, Obama would let the Republicans know that they can't roll him whenever they want and they'd be forced to cooperate by conceding to more progressive legislation to prevent becoming totally irrelevant.
By standing and fighting, Obama would prove to us liberals that's he's working for the public and against the ultra-greedy. We'd be cheering loudly for Obama and the Democrats as would a huge majority of Americans who are sick of Republicans destroying the country so the ultra-greedy can make ever bigger killings at our expense.”
If Obama's cheering squad would let their defenses down and listen to those on the left that are disparaged by his administration and speaking out accordingly they would see a group that are desperately trying to call him onto the work and the approach that the nation so badly needs. Ironically, this would also be his best chance to hold onto power. On the flip side, if he continues to squander his opportunity, this is also a group that does not care if he does not continue to hold onto his power. In fact, we hope that he vacates his position even as we will do our best to fill it with someone who understands that it is not the right time to play the game as usual.”
“The cheer got squelched by Gibbs attacking us liberals who were glad to see it happen - and by the way - glad to see the Republicans forced to come back to Washington to eat crow.”
“No. I thought that Obama weakened his position in dealing with BP when he announced that he supported expanded off-shore drilling a couple of month's ago. He gave up the moral high-ground to pander to Republicans.
I don't think BP Disaster is Obama's Katrina.
But, I do have to wonder if there isn't a little bit of Karma going on.”