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Disproving The Nonsense About The FBI & Jan. 6th Would Be Easier If The FBI Didn't Have A History Of Entrapping People In Made Up Plots

from the you-guys-made-this-worse dept

There's a very, very dumb conspiracy theory making the rounds -- and I want to be very clear on this -- that has zero evidence to support it, that the FBI was actually behind the January 6th invasion of the Capitol. It was originally reported by a wacky extremist news organization that I won't even bother naming here, and then got a lot more attention when Fox News made it a story via Tucker Carlson's show. The underlying confusion is that a (former Trump admin official who was let go after attending a conference with white nationalists but then later appointed to a new job within the Trump White House) reporter completely misunderstood what "unindicted co-conspirator" means in various charging documents.

What it generally means are people the government has not yet charged, and who they don't want to name so they don't tip them off (or where they don't yet know who they are, or don't have enough evidence to charge, or for a variety of other reasons). What it absolutely never means, is an undercover FBI agent or informant. Those people are not ever described as unindicted co-conspirator. But the reporter somehow got it into his head that this meant they were FBI agents, and then went to town with a conspiracy theory blaming the FBI for the insurrection, claiming that it was designed to "frame the entire MAGA movement."

As noted, this is false, and there is no evidence to support this. At all. It's a fiction of imagination from someone who has no idea what he's talking about, and of course Tucker Carlson ran with it, because that's what Tucker Carlson does.

But... here's the thing: it would be a hell of a lot easier to debunk this nonsense if the FBI (especially since 9/11) didn't have a depressingly long history of... setting up fake terrorist plots in order to entrap people to get big headlines around an arrest of someone who never had any means to actually carry out the attack. We've covered examples of these kinds of FBI activities for years. We've written about examples of this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

No doubt, what the FBI does in those cases is disgusting and highly questionable. It often involves them searching out people who are either mentally troubled or really desperate, and then proposing they get involved in a completely fictional terrorist plot -- a plot that the individuals would have no possible chance of actually carrying out on their own. The undercover FBI agents (or the confidential informant working for the FBI) then proceed to do all the actual "planning" including buying any of the necessary materials and getting all the details in order. Then, after the planning has reached a certain point and the sucker is bought in on the plan, they're arrested, and the FBI claims it "stopped" a terrorist attack -- which usually gives the FBI lots of glowing press attention.

Of course, the reality is that there was no threat. There was no actual plot. There is never any ability to actually carry anything out. The weapons or bombs or whatever are all faked or never actually in existence. It's all a shadow play so the FBI can try to get some headlines and pretend they're doing something.

But that's clearly not what happened with January 6th. For one thing, the events of January 6th actually happened. The Capitol was actually invaded. Damage was actually done. If the FBI was planning it as per their usual homegrown plots, no actual attack would have happened. Also, if you look at the pattern of who the FBI has gone after with these plots... it's not really been the Trump supporting MAGA militia type.

Either way, though, people wouldn't have to be doing this big silly debunking of this kind of nonsense conspiracy theory if the FBI didn't actually have a track record of doing this kind of thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

So, you know, perhaps they should stop doing that.

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    kallethen, 22 Jun 2021 @ 9:26am

    It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. The boy (FBI) cried wolf (faked plots) so much that when a real wolf actually shows up (insurrection at the Capitol), people assume it's fake.

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      That One Guy (profile), 22 Jun 2021 @ 9:40am

      'It's BLM! ANTIFA! The FBI! ANYONE BUT US!'

      Eh, they may be trying to pin the blame on the FBI now but that's likely less due to the FBI's history of finding dupes to arrest(odds are most of the people pushing this argument aren't even aware of that history or would actively support it) so much as just a continuation of the same thing that's been going on since the insurrection, where Trump cultists are desperate to find something, anything to blame other than their own and their Dear Leader for the assault on the capitol and failed insurrection.

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    That One Guy (profile), 22 Jun 2021 @ 9:33am

    Even if they were right they'd still be wrong

    Thing is while the FBI has a history of finding gullible(or mentally incapable) dupes to trick into 'terrorist attack's so they can swoop in for the arrest that still involves tricking the mark into attempting to do something illegal, so even taking the argument at face value you'd still have a lot of Trump cultists engaging in illegal actions at the behest of the FBI who... all went out for coffee when they were supposed to be making the arrests and only noticed well after the fact?

    If the FBI did orchestrate the whole thing they apparently had no difficulty tricking a bunch of 'law and order' Trump cultists to assault the capitol, which isn't exactly making said cultists look better or any less responsible for their actions, leaving this conspiracy theory a failure even if it was right.

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    Anonymous Coward, 22 Jun 2021 @ 10:07am

    Don't be so ambiguous, Mike. How do you really feel about this?

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    Anonymous Coward, 22 Jun 2021 @ 10:09am

    "[The FBI's] track record of doing this kind of thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again."

    So, you're saying it might be true?

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