Talk:Q218134

Moldovan

Лобачев Владимир, you say that I need a source for saying Stephen was Romanian, but do you have any saying that he was Moldovan? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 14:16, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

• Moldavians and Rusyns lived in the Moldavian principality, which is recorded in many sources. If he is not a Moldovan, then it means a Rusyn. There were no Romanians in the principality. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 20:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Why did Moldavia unite with Wallachia and form Romania, then? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

This is not a question for me, but for those who did it in the 19th century. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 14:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

The modern Romanian language did not exist then (it was formed in the middle of the 19th century). At that time there was Wallachian, or Old Romanian language in Wallachia and Moldavian in the Moldavian principality. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 06:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Propaganda. I don't want to waste time again citing sources I've cited several times already, read this [1]. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 10:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I read it. Here are some quotes.

The self-designation of Romanians as Romans is mentioned in some 30 scholarly works as early as the 16th century by mainly Italian humanists travelling in Transylvania, Moldavia and Walachia.[5] Thus, Tranquillo Andronico writes in 1534 that Romanians (Valachi) "now call themselves Romans".[6] In 1532, Francesco della Valle accompanying Governor Aloisio Gritti to Transylvania, Walachia and Moldavia notes that Romanians preserved the name of the Romans (Romani) and "they call themselves in their language Romanians (Romei)". He even cites the sentence "Sti Rominest ?" ("do you speak Romanian ?" for originally Romanian "știi românește ?") Further, this author reports what he could learn from local orthodox monks, that "in the present they call themselves Romanians (Romei)".[7]

Other first-hand evidence about the name Romanians used to call themselves comes from authors having lived in Transylvania and/or Romanian principalities: the learned Lutheran preacher and first Transylvanian Saxon historiograph Johann Lebel attests in 1542 that common Romanians call themselves "Romuini",[11] the Polish Humanist Stanislaus Orichovius notes as late as 1554 that "these left behind Dacians in their own language are called Romini, after the Romans, and Walachi in Polish, after the Italians",.[12]

The geographer Anton Friedrich Büsching writes in 1754 that "the Wallachians, who are remnant and progeny of the old Roman colonies thus call themselves Romanians, which means Romans"[15]

The Hungarian writer András Dugonics in 1801 states: "But those Romans who remained in Dacia mixed their Roman language with the language of the Sarmatians [of the Slavs] and that of the Dacians. Thus a special language was formed, the Wallachian language (oláh nyelv), which is nothing else but a mixture of the Latin language with the Slavic and Dacian language (dákus), and they themselves are today called the Romans (rómaiak), ie rumun"[16]

What did you want to show with this article? --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

That the Romanian language existed before the 19th century. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 12:59, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Colored coat of arms?

Indicate the source of such a coat of arms of Stefan. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 10:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

No. You will ignore all sources you are presented and return with Russian or pro-Russian ones some weeks after. You are not an user to discuss with. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Thus, you could not indicate the source where the colored coat of arms is depicted or described in detail. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 11:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

You can read again the discussions in which Rgvis provided tons of sources: [2] [3]. There's no need for me to repeat them. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

You are citing discussions where the source for the color coat of arms has not appeared. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 11:49, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes it has. I don't think I have to search it for you. Do I? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:53, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

If there is no source, then I can assume that the colored coat of arms is a fiction. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

But there is. Search better. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

There should be no information that is not in the sources. w:Wikipedia:No original research. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:19, 15 July 2021 (UTC)