Talk:Q29282

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Justin Welby (Q26419) 2013-02-04 –
Rowan Williams (Q49615) 2002-12-02 – 2012-12-31
George Carey (Q335458) 1991-04-19 – 2002-10-31
Robert Runcie (Q335465) 1980-02-01 – 1991-01-31
Donald Coggan (Q336389) 1974-11-18 – 1980-01-25
Michael Ramsey (Q336569) 1961-06-01 – 1974-11-15
Geoffrey Fisher (Q335473) 1945-01-12 – 1961-05-31
William Temple (Q336315) 1942-04-01 – 1944-10-26
Cosmo Gordon Lang (Q336344) 1928-11-13 – 1942-03-31
Randall Davidson (Q336307) 1903-01-14 – 1928-11-12
Frederick Temple (Q336295) 1896-11-09 – 1902-12-23
Edward Benson (Q336433) 1883-01-13 – 1896-10-11
Archibald Tait (Q336875) 1868-11-28 – 1882-12-03
Charles Longley (Q1145542) 1862-10-20 – 1868-10-27
John Bird Sumner (Q549733) 1848-02-17 – 1862-09-06
William Howley (Q844561) 1828-08-06 – 1848-02-11
Charles Manners-Sutton (Q907436) 1805-02-01 – 1828-07-21
John Moore (Q744064) 1783-03-31 – 1805-01-18
Frederick Cornwallis (Q907404) 1768-08-12 – 1783-03-19
Thomas Secker (Q907413) 1758-03-08 – 1768-08-03
Matthew Hutton (Q1230614) 1757-03-29 – 1758-03-18  Date overlap [1]
Thomas Herring (Q908726) 1747-10-21 – 1757-03-13
John Potter (Q336868) 1737-02-09 – 1747-10-10
William Wake (Q842313) 1715-12-17 – 1737-01-24
Thomas Tenison (Q680725) 1694-12-06 – 1715-12-14
John Tillotson (Q676049) 1691-05-31 – 1694-11-22
William Sancroft (Q767960) 1678-01-27 – 1690-02-01
Gilbert Sheldon (Q584403) 1663-06-16 – 1677-11-09
William Juxon (Q665226) 1660-09-02 – 1663-06-04
William Laud (Q325408) 1633-08-06 – 1645-01-10
George Abbot (Q714925) 1611-03-04 – 1633-08-05
Richard Bancroft (Q651099) 1604-11 – 1610-11-02
John Whitgift (Q473302) 1583-08-14 – 1604-02-29
Edmund Grindal (Q655212) 1576-01-08 – 1583-07-06
Matthew Parker (Q711332) 1559-12-27 – 1575-05-27  Missing field [2]
John Stafford (Q671908)  Missing fields [3]
Position created: 1558-11-27
Replaces: Roman Catholic Archbishop of Canterbury (Q105080069); talk


instance of position and subclass of position

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@BohemianRhapsody: No item can be an instance of position and a subclass of position at the same time.

  1. The item is an instance of position
  2. The item was made subclass of position by each of the additions of the claims subclass of
    1. diocesan bishop (Q1144278) https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q29282&diff=prev&oldid=2070263717
    2. anglican archbishop (Q105079980) https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q29282&diff=prev&oldid=2070263558

Please revert. CV213 (talk) 15:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CV213: I think there is a misunderstanding in the meaning of "istance" and "subclass". Archbishop of Canterbury (Q29282) is obviously a position. But the meaning of subclass of (P279) is stated as: this item is a subclass (subset) of that item; all instances of this item are instances of that item; different from P31 (instance of), e.g.: K2 is an instance of mountain; volcano is a subclass of mountain (and an instance of volcanic landform).
In our case, all istance of Archbishop of Canterbury (Q29282) (i.e. every single archbishop of Canterbury) are istances of diocesan bishop (Q1144278) and anglican archbishop (Q105079980) (because every single archbishop of Canterbury is also a diocesan bishop and a anglican archbishop). So, this item should indeed be subclass of diocesan bishop (Q1144278) and anglican archbishop (Q105079980).
--BohemianRhapsody (talk) 15:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are no instances of Archbishop of Canterbury. The comparison with K2 is flawed. Edmund Grindal (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

start time inception

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For Matthew Parker it says start time 17 December 1559 and the position has inception 17 November 1558. If it was vacant, can that be marked? Edmund Grindal (talk) 07:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

officeholder

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Justin Welby - that is incomplete. Edmund Grindal (talk) 07:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]